Suella! Braverman!

she can pitch that all she like but those same people see her as a blummin foriner too.

I think Sunak would gain some respect sacking her. looks weak not doing so so unsure what he has to lose

@zippykona pretty sure we have the same MP as your shop, interestingly I’ve seen or heard very little him since Boris left and he stopped being wheeled out to apologise. Kind of hoping he knock on my door now

Is there a non paywall version of her article available? I’d quite like to pinch my nose and read it. 

I like to know my enemy so I had a look at the Daily Mail comments on this story. Top rated comment (with 7007 up arrows) “A good woman in an impossible job”.

FFS

It may be useful for Sunak to have her in place to blame if it is ruled illegal.

The opposite I would have thought. With the court ruling that it is illegal and her already gone he could have reasonably said that there is nothing left to discuss. Issue closed.

But if she is still at her job it will just be another headache for him to deal with, even if he eventually has no alternative but to sack her.

By criticizing the police is an institution, ie they allegedly discriminate against right-wingers, Braverman gave Rishi Sunak an open goal.

Criticizing the BBC, immigrants, those living in destitution, left-wing lawyers, etc, etc, might chime with certain sections of the Tory Party, but attacking the police certainly doesn’t.

I just can’t imagine that attacking the police will have gone down well with the Tory faithful.

The problem imo is that Sunak totally screwed-up and instead of emphasizing his faith in the police, and sacking his Home Secretary for making disgraceful comments, he actually joined in the criticism and said that he would personally hold the Metropolitan Police Commissioner responsible for not doing what Braverman requested if anything goes wrong.

@martinhutch A recurring theme is his total political naivety. Bear in mind he’s never won a contested election of any kind…

Bear in mind he’s never won a contested election of any kind

True, apart from winning his parliamentary seat in the 2015 general election. And again in 2017. And again in 2019. But apart from that, not won anything.

Edit, I’m not defending him or his record. Just correcting facts.

Bear in mind he’s never won a contested election of any kind…

And never will.

His seat could be won by a sheep wearing a blue rosette.

I’ll be attending the march (for a ceasefire) on Saturday. Braverman’s objection to it has strengthened my resolve to go along and join the numbers of others expressing their democratic right to protest. I think that her and the tories faux disgust at the fact not everyone agrees with them, will be a rallying cry in a similar fashion to when a particular piece of art or music is banned, or like when older people disapprove of some aspect of youth culture; it’ll only make the march more popular. 

I was particularly appalled by the comments of a certain foreign president, claiming that such a march is ‘atrocious’, and some BS about it being a time for remembrance etc, when his nation’s military are murdering children. Further irony being that this is a march calling for peace, and not a ‘hate march’ as that vile woman is claiming. Her attempts to order the police to act as political enforcers is beyond the pale. 

The opposite I would have thought

Of course you would 🙄

Really good analysis imo here:

https://news.sky.com/story/is-a-reshuffle-rishi-sunaks-best-chance-of-a-reset-after-the-braverman-row-13004193

Their best guess is that Braverman will be sacked on Monday.

If a humanoid Tory were to stand there in a by election now, they would be hammered.  The sheep would almost certainly keep the seat

The words of Cruella..

https://archive.li/VpKxg

Thanks for that ^^

Me too: one very senior Tory says a reshuffle is coming, Braverman will not survive it. talks in Number Ten today.More at 6 https://t.co/m0hXAKADAS

— Andrew Marr (@AndrewMarr9) November 9, 2023

Sounds like some knives are being sharpened.
I guess this is the middle ground between keeping her as Home Secretary and an outright firing.

Move the deckchairs around a bit.

A reshuffle will suit Sunak.

Allows him to say he’s done something whilst actually doing bugger all.

I mean, that phrase suits the entire government really. It a zombie government, it doesn’t actually do anything, it just *is*.

Re shuffle. then poison from the background to mount a leadership campaign

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Re shuffle. then poison from the background to mount a leadership campaign

Lol, I don’t know why but your phrasing there made me think of her as a tick.😁

Shuffle her into a hole in the ground then fill it in.

“she can pitch that all she like but those same people see her as a blummin foriner too.”

I’m not sure this is true.

Racists are really weird – in fact they defy logic (for a number of reasons). You would expect a true racist to hate all people of other races equally no matter who they are or what they do, and maybe the full on neo nazi scum of the far far right do. But they are a small minority.

Your basic racist pensioner doesn’t actually consider themselves a racist. A classic but some of my friends are black situation. Except they obviously don’t have any black friends – BUT there is Suella (and Kemi and Rishi)……and suddenly they can feel good about hating the boat people and the young brown people taking their useless lazy entitled kids jobs because hey some of my best politicians are black.

@franksinatra He’s in a very safe Tory seat. As @kelvin has said…

The one contested election he’s taken part in was the Tory leadership contest. Which he lost.

As the OP can I just say I think I might have misjudged her in my first post. 

We had a really good chat at Cubs this week, we asked them to bring stories of their great grandparents and relatives who’d had sereved in ww2, afghanistan etc, it was something they really focused on& engaged with (not always easy for some of them) and it was a really good session, we also made some poppies and will be doing our own remembrance march on Sunday, a world away from the politicisation and nonsense braverman & co are stirring up.

Hard to articulate how much on behalf of my friends and wider regimental family we appreciate this.

The list of friends who we lose each year because for them the wara never ended grows every year. This year was the one when death by suicide passed KIA in my circle.

Those a lads and lasses are the names that will be forgotten, that aren’t written in operational rolls of honour.

All the while these shitehawks politicise the act of remembrance to further their own agendas.

She’s basically a massive dickhead. Should be sacked and disappear in to obscurity.

I’ll be attending the march (for a ceasefire) on Saturday.

Take a placard saying-  SUELLA BRAVERMAN IS A HATEFUL COW. The parade it up and down near the photographers

I actually think she IS evil not posturing for right wing power kicks.  she believes the vile repugnant bile she spews out.

Truss is a numpty and Boris ran off when it got too much. But Cruella de Vil on the other hand?

I do not believe for one moment Gove supports Badenoch.

Gove has form when it comes to supporting candidates then stabbing them in the back.

As the OP can I just say I think I might have misjudged her in my first post.

Your username describes her perfectly.

I do not believe for one moment Gove supports Badenoch

Gove is a parasite. He attaches himself to whoever best serves his interest at any given moment. He will then jettison them without a second thought and move on to his next host, when it suits him to do so

If you’ve not already seen the Daily Stars front page today….

BBC News – Newspaper headlines: Braverman defies PM but right warn against removal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-67375909

Seems like Sunday’s march is now more anti Cruella than pro Palestine. 

little Rishi will dither and dither, and dither some more. And then most likely demote rather than sack her… making himself look weak and indecisive when he could have used this to send a strong message. 

The core issue is that he IS weak and indecisive, and horribly out of touch. 

I see that the usual headbangers are asserting themselves again and as Lil Rishi is terrified of them the tail once again wags the dog.

I love how they refer to themselves as ‘The Silent Majority’. They’re certainly not a majority and the ****s never shut up!

In any functional government, she’d be long gone!

Seems like Sunday’s march is now more anti Cruella than pro Palestine.

It’s tomorrow not Sunday and it looks evermore likely that thanks to Braverman there will be violence with, ironically, neo-nazi far-right thugs descending onto London in support of Israel.

I expect that the police will make a very significant amount of arrests.

Rishi did this to himself: Suella had been fired as Home Secretary for misconduct only six days before he reappointed her. This is all on him. What did he think was going to happen? He should be getting called on to resign for his poor judgement , not just to sack her.

Some very useful information here for anyone going on tomorrow’s demo:

If you are going on the Palestine Solidarity march be prepared

Including:

It is likely the Metropolitan Police, under immense political pressure to crack down hard on any suspicion of support for Hamas, may decide to interpret “support” very broadly: potentially as broadly as placards expressing support for “Palestinian resistance” or “freedom fighters”.

This does not just mean making arrests on the day but also using CCTV, public appeals, social media analysis and facial recognition to make arrests in the weeks that follow.

Its just been pointed out that she’s achieved something genuinely unique in Northern Ireland: she’s united Unionists and Nationalists in condemnation of her as she clearly hasn’t got a ****ing scooby what she’s talking about.

Theres was a Tory MP on Radio 4 earlier saying that ‘as Home Secretary, I’m sure she has an extensive knowledge of Northern Irish politics’

To which the reply was ‘well if you read what she’s written, she clearly hasn’t got a clue!’

Only one of those statements is true

Sunak could sack her just for the level of utter ignorance she’s exhibiting on such an important issue. She’s meant to be the Home Secretary FFS!

Sunak is terrified of sacking her,- hes weak within the party and the headbanging right of the party like her honesty/bigotry

he will wait it out and see how events play out on Sunday & then the latest ruling on the Rwanda scheme is due on wednesday

‘events’ could still keep her place

damn david davis talking sense the worlds gone mad

The Met have an insidiously difficult job, but the right to protest is precisely the sort of freedom that our soldiers, sailors, and airmen fought and died to defend.

— David Davis (@DavidDavisMP) November 10, 2023

damn david davis talking sense the worlds gone mad

He is good on some subjects especially civil liberties.
Unlike many self professed libertarians he doesnt go for the “i should be free to do what i want and you should be free to do what i want”.