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  • Suella! Braverman!
  • MoreCashThanDash
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    Caught part of her no-show in the HoC on the radio – seemed reporters were subtly mocking her for throwing her Policing minister under the bus. Again.

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    tjagain
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    I wonder if she has reached the threshold for a criminal offense yet?  Must be getting close.  I wonder if someone like the good law project will set a private prosecution going or raise a complaint to the police?

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    tpbiker
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    One things for sure, if I was posting this kind of rhetoric online, I’m fairly sure I’d be getting a knock on the door from the authorities for breaching our hate laws..

    a truely odious individual, I actually have to change channels when I see her repugnant smirking face on tv. She actually sickens me.

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    kelvin
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    All the opposition parties have called for her to be sacked this morning over her dangerous comments.

    nickc
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    which, ironically probably makes her position more secure.

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    Poopscoop
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    She is officially her own worst enemy now.

    This is what happens when you have to constantly out do yourself to appeal to (the rotten) core.

    Add in little to no accountability as your own PM is too weak to do anything, or possibly, savvy enough to give you enough rope…

    Anyway, it’s now a sad irony that if the far right kick off over the weekend, although it’s absolutely what she wanted, it might bring her down too.

    Terrible shame (not) but a genuine shame that she is the one that ends up disrupting Remembrance Sunday.

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    ernielynch
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    I wonder if she has reached the threshold for a criminal offense yet?

    Well she appears to have reached the threshold for exceeding her powers as Home Secretary.

    She is being taken to court for signing off legislation which has been rejected by Parliament.

    Court grants permission for Liberty legal action against Home Secretary

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    kelvin
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    which, ironically probably makes her position more secure

    What it does is draw attention to the PM’s responsibility. If he keeps her, he supports her behaviour.

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    binners
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    Add in little to no accountability as your own PM is too weak to do anything, or possibly, savvy enough to give you enough rope…

    I think its very convenient for Sunak to be described as too weak to sack her. While it may well be the case (it is) I think he’s actually 99% in agreement with what she’s saying. Thats why she’s saying what she’s saying with no sanction.

    They’re doing a good cop/bad cop routine where she spouts her hate-filled bile and he does the more considered ‘well I wouldn’t have used that language…’ act, which makes him look comparatively ‘moderate’.

    He isn’t

    That article has been signed off for number 10, along with everything else she’s said. He won’t sack her because she’s doing her job in accurately reflecting the views of the government of which he’s (allegedly) the leader.

    Whats terrifying is the obvious pleasure she seems to take in whipping up mobs, inciting violence and overstepping boundaries left, right and centre. She’s a very, very dangerous person, as unfortunately will likely be proved this weekend. She’s trying her damndest to make sure theres no chance this weekends protest will pass off without violence with her courting of Tommy Robinson and his gang of far right thugs. She’s legitimising whatever it is they’re cooking up

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    tjagain
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    No 10 did not sign off the final version of Suella Braverman’s article accusing the police of being biased, The Telegraph can reveal.

    The Home Secretary and her team defied No 10 by ignoring some of their requested edits to her article.

    Four sources have confirmed to this newspaper that some changes demanded by Downing Street in the Home Secretary’s article in The Times, in which she accused the police of “playing favourites” with Left-wing protesters, were not incorporated in the final version.

    It will come up at the lobby briefing later

    from the Grauniad live feed

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    binners
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    The Home Secretary and her team defied No 10 by ignoring some of their requested edits to her article.

    Four sources have confirmed to this newspaper that some changes demanded by Downing Street in the Home Secretary’s article in The Times, in which she accused the police of “playing favourites” with Left-wing protesters, were not incorporated in the final version.

    If that is the case then she has to go. Simple as that.

    This would chime with the claim yesterday that she is now just goading him into sacking her

    So… another Tory leadership election before Christmas?

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    tjagain
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    That feels to me like Sunak distancing himself from her

    Poopscoop
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    This would chime with the claim yesterday that she is now just goading him into sacking her

    Hmmm… That would make sense too. Lord, they are a narsasistic/ machiavellian bunch of turds. She would love to play the victim here.

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    The palestinian support march will never be closer than 2 miles to the cenotaph

    It won’t suprise me if some absolute throbbers try and disrupt it on either side.

    Even within the lefties marching to support the Palestinian cause are some raging authoritarians who’d love to **** up remembrance.

    And Tommy and his ilk will be waiting with glee to disrupt the planned protest we’re all discussing. To deny either element has some idiots is disingenuous at best.

    But their existence doesn’t justify and it never will, the steps and rhetoric that comic book villain is espousing.

    Any one **** with remembrance or peaceful protest should be put in stocks and have rotten veg thrown at them*.

    *Or the law used appropriately. But as SB seems to be intent on perverting that, seems fruitless.

    I have a feeling this Sunday might be a shit show, as if it isn’t hard enough for some already. 😔

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    That feels to me like Sunak distancing himself from her

    The latest ‘News Agents’ pod covers this quite well. I think RS knows he’s **** if he doesn’t pull it out the bag for the GE, she’s set herself up as kingmaker and is waiting to slide the knife in and grab leadership.

    squirrelking
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    @ernielynch I thought there was a rare moment of unity in that article you posted until it got to that throbber Paisley. DUP once again rising to the occasion.

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    crazy-legs
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    She’s directly mounting a leadership bid, challenging whatever authority Sunak has.

    Breach of ministerial code (although that seems to be a daily occurrence these days), signing off legislation that was previously rejected by Parliament, inciting hatred….

    She is just a fascist leader-in-waiting.

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    slowoldman
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    I’m wondering if that’s being harsh on Enoch – given their respective backgrounds, how the hell has she arrived at a similar position?

    Pull the ladder up I can swim.

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    kimbers
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    I have a feeling this Sunday might be a shit show, as if it isn’t hard enough for some already.

    I suppose with the Tories so far behind in the polls & Sunak so weak , it was inevitable that some of them would go balls deep in the culture war
    you only have to look at the front page of the sun today to see that stirring this up to try desperately to save the government

    We had a really good chat at Cubs this week, we asked them to bring stories of their great grandparents and relatives who’d had sereved in ww2, afghanistan etc, it was something they really focused on& engaged with (not always easy for some of them)  and it was a really good session, we also made some poppies and will be doing our own remembrance march on Sunday,  a world away from the politicisation and nonsense braverman & co are stirring up.

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    Klunk
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    with no 10 disowning the article Little Rishi has no option now but to sack her now.  But they handle everything so badly he looks so indecisive, can you imagine him ordering lunch ! 😕

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    zomg
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    There’s a little sliver of hilarity in all this. She’s got right up the loyalists’ noses by thoughtlessly referring to orange order traditions as “sectarian hate marches”. They’re going buck-wild at being compared to Jihadis.

    Klunk
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    It’s also interesting that the Torygraph didn’t give No 10 a heads up before publishing so he could get ahead of the story and a least sack her with looking like he’d been forced into it by the Opposition.

    binners
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    Her knowledge of Northern Irish politics is clearly zero (surprise surprise, again!) if she’s comparing Unionists to Jihadi’s. What she’s proving yet again, when you get behind all the hate-filled rhetoric, is that she’s as thick as mince, isn’t she?

    Ultimately we’ve got Boris Johnson to thank for all this.

    Him playing fast and loose with the democratic norms of our unwritten constitution has set the tone for those he appointed and who succeeded him. They also share his contempt for democracy but now we’ve got people like Cruella, with some genuinely sinister agendas, using the same playbook.

    I suppose it was inevitable really. Hasn’t taken long has it? Its only going to get worse over the next 12 months as they obviously see whipping up division as their only viable option to try and avoid electoral annihilation

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    kerley
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    As a Buddhist she is in for a very unhappy life with all the shit she has pulled being that karma would be a thing for her.

    MoreCashThanDash
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    Anyone got that feeling of imminent action we had as Boris’s collapse drew inevitably near?

    slowoldman
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    She’s currently smirking in front of the Covid-19 inquiry.

    binners
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    She sounds like a consummate professional and a bit of a namby-pamby liberal in comparison to her successor

    Remember the good old days when we thought Priti Patel as Home Secretary was about as bad as it could get?

    tjagain
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    The lobby briefing had a load of questions about Braverman according to the Gruaniad and  it very much looks like Sunak is putting space between him and her and getting ready to sack her

    Rats in a sack again

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    binners
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    I don’t know what else he expected when he appointed the woman who’d deservedly been sacked 6 days earlier.

    So she’s clearly going for a record of being sacked as home secretary twice by two different Prime Ministers in just over 12 months. You really couldn’t make it up, could you?

    slowoldman
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    Sorry, forget that Covid Inquiry stuff, I’m mixing up my Home Secs.

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    tjagain
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    Are we going to do a sweepstake on her sacking?  I’m going for Sunday evening so the news is buried in remembrance stuff

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    reluctantjumper
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    I’ll take Sunday morning as it won’t even register on the news channels then either.

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    sobriety
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    I’ll take Sunday morning as it won’t even register on the news channels then either.

    Before or after the riot she incited?

    crazy-legs
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    Before or after the riot she incited?

    There’s an easier option which is just to ensure she’s caught in the crossfire. It’d solve a lot of problems and it’d be a great bit of irony for a Government that doesn’t seem to understand consequences.

    reluctantjumper
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    I’d say 10am as then the news channels will be full of pre-remembrance stuff. I don’t think any timing of a riot or otherwise will make much difference.

    kimbers
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    Labour not shy in pointing out how weak sunak is atm

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    nickc
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    I’m going for later this afternoon for her to be invited for a meeting with no biscuits. 

    somafunk
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    If she’s not careful someone will be sent round to hammer frozen sausages into her front lawn.

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    MoreCashThanDash
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    If she’s not careful someone will be sent round to hammer frozen sausages into her front lawn.

    Not an image I wanted

    zippykona
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    If she posted on here would she have a ban?

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