Suella! Braverman!

Even by Pie’s standards he is pretty pissed there. He’s also spot on.

If they do try & ban the Palestinian march this Saturday, I’m sure as hell going to London to peacefully demonstrate my displeasure.

solidified bin juice in human form.

One of the finest non-sweary insults I’ve heard in a long time.

So SB seems to have decided to up the ante by calling the Met biased for allowing the march on Sunday, just hours after Sunak said it was a policing decision.
At what point does Sunak grow a pair

Looks like she’s now gone full Tommy Robinson and Braverman has now said the Met are ‘playing favourites’ with protests. The hardly subtle implication being that far right nutjobs should be given a light touch. She took the chance to have a pop at Black Lives Matter and other more liberal organisations while excusing the likes of Britain First

She really is a modern day Enoch Powell. She’s clearly instigating a massive kick off and deliberately fermenting civil unrest. She’s desperate for it to kick off this weekend.

The interview with the Times in which she said this would have had to be signed off with number 10, which means he either agrees with it or he’s such a shithouse that he won’t do anything to reign her in

How the **** is she still Home Secretary? She should never have been anywhere near an office like that in the first place, but after all this latest shit….

A British Home Secretary is deliberately undermining the police to bolster her leadership campaign. That’s insane!

https://x.com/yvettecoopermp/status/1722388423770542537?s=46&t=1lK7Dw1b6RqGJyvufO-trQ

Looks like she’s now gone full Tommy Robinson and Braverman has now said the Met are ‘playing favourites’ with protests. The hardly subtle implication being that far right nutjobs should be given a light touch.

Couldn’t believe what she’s come out with now, literally putting the Met Police on a collision course with the government for no sane or justifiable reason.

She really is a modern day Enoch Powell.

I’m wondering if that’s being harsh on Enoch – given their respective backgrounds, how the hell has she arrived at a similar position?

She’s clearly instigating a massive kick off and deliberately fermenting civil unrest. She’s desperate for it to kick off this weekend.

A few of us have said this, but at what point do her words and actions become a crime of incitement? Has this got the potential to be a Very British version of January 6th?

A British Home Secretary is deliberately undermining the police to bolster her leadership campaign. That’s dangerously insane!

FTFY

The Sun is joining in suggesting there are fewer poppy sellers due to fears of attacks from pro-Palestinian supporters.

Interesting that the i is reporting that she’s gone too far for some Tory MPs, even they have a limit.

My best case scenario is that the Stop the War march is peaceful, Yaxley Lennon’s boys get arrested, and the Press and Starmer spend next week skewering Braverman and Rishi for it.

and the Press and Starmer spend next week skewering Braverman and Rishi for it.

Unlikely. The press will still be on their side and Starmer doesn’t want to rock any boats.

She has really doubled down on this. Its gone beyond parody into outright danger and incitement to violence.

Utterly unbelieveable. The islamophobia is palpable.

Posted this already but it’s a shame to not make the most of my efforts.

I assume she’s accepted the Tories will get eviscerated at the next GE so is positioning herself as the next leader once the Tories swing further to the right thinking that’s what voters want (or because they have little choice now Labour is firmly centre-right under Starmer). Or she’s just receiving back-handers from Israel.

It’s just brazen shit stirring. 

It’s absolutely unbelievable that a Home Secretary would seek to undermine the police in the way Braverman has done.  

Fuzzywuzzy – that and also she is a raging islamophobe / racist

This is the “end of operational independence in policing” – says Neil Basu, ex-Met Assistant Commissioner, about the pressure the Govt is exerting on @metpoliceuk to ban Saturday’s march.

Basu says Govt is “on the verge” of behaving unconstitutionally.

Interviewed on @LBC

— Danny Shaw (@DannyShawNews) November 8, 2023

I heard snippets of the interview comments on another radio news show, the (ex-Met) police guy was very unimpressed by her words and actions.

Not sure they’ve managed to find a currently serving senior officer to go on record about it, I suspect that would be a career-ending move!

The other comment was about the police being held accountable, the response was that they didn’t need that across the front pages, they were already accountable – they took the decisions on the day and there was every possibility of an inquiry further down the line, it didn’t need Sunak shit-stirring as well.

The organiser of the Cenotaph events says the march should go ahead and he wouldn’t want Remembrance Day to become some sort of fascist platform. Times Radio did an interview with John Rees of StW (on YT) but don’t appear to have published it on their website.  SB will have motivated even more people to turn out on Saturday. Meanwhile, Armrest flounders.

Starmer doesn’t want to rock any boats.

He needs to carefully choose which boats to rock, but forcing the PM to give a yes or no answer on whether he agrees with her comments at PMQs* is definitely a boat worth rocking.

Sadly, it really needs right wing protesters to kick off to truly have any impact.

*if only the Speaker would properly force an answer.

Lord Soames, who is Winston Churchill’s grandson, said: “Whether this march went ahead was always an operational matter, and was not a decision for either the prime minister or the home secretary. This was a decision for the Met commissioner, who knows how to do his job.

Not much shocks me any more with this lot, the level to which senior government figures will stoop never having been lower, but Bravermans latest outburst is gob-smacking

They’ve just voiced up her transcript on Radio 4 and there you have it… a British Home Secretary parroting the far right tropes so beloved of organisations like the EDL and Britain First.

As Johnathon Pie said, she’s no longer simply emboldening the far right, SHE IS the far right

she’s gone full Fascist!

I have no idea how they are going to ‘manage’ the Cenotaph if it’s targeted.

The palestinian support march will never be closer than 2 miles to the cenotaph

the most likely to cause disorder are the far right.  They are calling for it on GB news as is farage and Yaxly Lennon

What ever you do don’t go looking at places like Pistonheads or Facebook, the right-leaning people are believing her crap. Plenty of people thinking she is fighting a biased MET and a media that is out to discredit her.

Going full Fascist is working for some people.

Imagine thinking the Met isn’t right wing enough.

It’d actually be funny if the implications weren’t so serious

I have no idea how they are going to ‘manage’ the Cenotaph if it’s targeted.

As I understood it, it was never going to be “targeted” – the proposed march was nowhere close to it and Sunak started with “you should respect the sanctity of our Remembrancing by not having a march on this weekend”.

Then somehow it became “they will be targeting our Cenotaph” and, as was the case where they managed to protect the Churchill statue, everyone has suddenly got very upset that another statue might somehow be “targeted”.

Naturally the Britain First mob and the right-wing scum who like to virtue signal their Remembrancing by having ostentatious poppy displays and sombre expressions are stoking the outrage that anyone could possibly target Solumn Remembrancing – even though the proposed march wasn’t near it.

What ever you do don’t go looking at places like Pistonheads or Facebook, the right-leaning people are believing her crap. Plenty of people thinking she is fighting a biased MET and a media that is out to discredit her.

I occasionally stumble across the comments to a Just Stop Oil post on Twitter or Facebook and the average response is something like “I would just drive over them if it weren’t illegal” or “they need their heads kicking in”. The Met has now adopted the German police technique of something called a “pain grip” and the Twitter brigade are asking if they can help.

The irony is that I think much of the far-right on Twitter (who also unironically pay China for a giant poppy to stick on their vans) would almost certainly have been those welcoming the Nazis into the country and supported (still support, in fact) their genocide of the Jews / gays / gypsies.

Braverman represents the worst of these people.

march on Sunday,

There is no march on Sunday; it’s on Saturday. Not a nitpick – you have been confused by the deliberate conflation of Armistice Day and Remembrance Sunday.

It won’t interfere with anything that happens at the Cenotaph, it won’t clash with the ceremony that happens on Sunday every year. It won’t even clash with the Armistice Day tradition of a 2 minutes silence at 11.00. Do you remember what you were doing on 11 November last year or the year before? No, me neither. Football is going ahead; Strictly is going ahead, but for some reason marching for peace should be banned. Go figure.

Cruella has been summoned to the House of Commons this morning to answer an urgent question about her recent statements to her opposition number Yvette Cooper.

Given that Cooper makes mincemeat of her whenever they face each other across the despatch box, and she does everything possible to avoid er, what do you reckon the chances are of her actually turning up?

We’ll get ‘Honest Bob’ Jenrick or another one of her other little minions

Government: “We are Solumnly Remembrancing victims of past wars lest we forget the horror and tragedy”

Everyone: Umm…do you want to call for a ceasefire in the horrific and tragic current war in Gaza?!”

Government / far-right: “How dare you interrupt our Solumn Remembrancing! Keep away from Our Cenotaph! We shall Remember!”

even though the proposed march wasn’t near it.

Not to mention the fact that the march is on the Saturday & Rem Sun is the day after. Yes, the same w/e but there appears to be some deliberate forgetting of the fact they are on different days..

The Sun is joining in suggesting there are fewer poppy sellers due to fears of attacks from pro-Palestinian supporters.

if there’s really a “shortage” of poppy sellers (I thought they were a donation 😉 ) then it’s probably got more to do with the appropriation of the poppy and the act of remembrance by the Britain’s First types and the likes of the sun as some sort of celebration of winning the war rather than remembering the losses on all sides.

just to make sure I’ve not missed something: the prime minister and his home sec (or is that the home sec and her prime minister?) are essentially trying to block a March that is calling for an end to to a war killing thousands because it’s on the day where we traditionally mark the end of a war and remember the thousands who died?  That was popularly being presented as providing the freedom to do things like March in protest?

It’s as if Sue-Ellen is clutching at straws, isn’t it?

I watched V for Vendetta the other night. I remember thinking ‘ha, what are the chances?’ when it came out.

Whether this march went ahead was always an operational matter

But more than that, and Metropolitan Police Commissioner has made this very clear, it is also a legal matter.

Met Commissioner Mark Rowley has repeatedly said that he cannot legally make a request to the Home Secretary to ban a march, under section 13 of the 1986 Public Order Act, without intelligence, or other convincing proof, that serious public disorder will occur which the Met would be unable to control.

Had Rowley made the request his actions could have been legally challenged. Both the Home Secretary and the Prime Minister were requesting that he broke the law.

The Met chief obviously decided that he wasn’t prepared to break the law to satisfy two individuals who won’t even be at their jobs in a year’s time.

And in a year’s time Rowley will very likely still be “accountable” to Londoners, including London’s Muslim community.

The Sun is joining in suggesting there are fewer poppy sellers due to fears of attacks from pro-Palestinian supporters.

There was a post on Twitter earlier from Edinburgh Police who’d received a report of a poppy seller being assaulted and, after a lot of combing through CCTV, they said there wasn’t any evidence of any crime but by then of course the “report” was all over social media as a poor veteran just trying to do the right thing by selling poppies who’d been assaulted by these pro-Palestinians.

SO it served its purpose in stoking up more hatred even though the incident almost certainly never happened.

At the same time there were suggestions that the poppy seller did indeed exist but various people who’d actually served were questioning the medals and ribbons he’d been wearing in the photos, suggesting that it was all a bit Walter Mitty.

This time of year really does drag out the worst in certain sections of society.

just to make sure I’ve not missed something: the prime minister and his home sec (or is that the home sec and her prime minister?) are essentially trying to block a March that is calling for an end to to a war killing thousands because it’s on the day where we traditionally mark the end of a war and remember the thousands who died?

Yup, that’s correct. Apparently it is “disrespectful” to call for a ceasefire on a day in which a ceasefire is commemorated annually.

Surprise surprise! Its a no show from Cruella in the House of Commons

She’s done what she always does… lobs a toxic hand grenade into the public discourse, then scuttles off to hide under her desk and let anyone who’s stupid enough take the flak for her. On this occasion it was Tory-by-numbers sock puppet Chris Philp

She’s as cowardly as she is obnoxious

She is UTTERLY GUTLESS.

Does she even know where the HOC is?  she never seems to go there when she is needed

Right-wing and nationalist protesters who engage in aggression are rightly met with a stern response yet pro-Palestinian mobs displaying almost identical behaviour are largely ignored, even when clearly breaking the law?”

how come if they are both displaying almost identical behavior, right wing nationalists are ‘protestors’, whereas the pro Palestinians are a ‘mob’?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-67366165.amp

A senior Tory source told the BBC that the article was “wholly offensive and ignorant of where people in Northern Ireland stand on the issues of the the Israel and Gaza”.

If Braverman had been in government 40 years ago she would no doubt have been calling for the heavy bombardment of Republican areas in Northern Ireland, and justifying the targeting of hospitals. All civilian deaths that would have caused would have obviously been the fault of the IRA.

Surprise surprise! Its a no show from Cruella in the House of Commons

love this comment in the fail….

Top woman, least she has a backbone.

😀 redefining the term “yellow peril” :/