Suella! Braverman!

MCTD – it’s more than *just* 13 years of tory failures; the tory administration have definitely contributed to it becoming a far bigger problem than it was.

If she bothered talking with any of the homelessness charities to begin informing herself about homelessness

Why would she bother do that? One thing this weeks evidence to the covid inquiry has confirmed is that this lot seem to positively revel in their wilful ignorance.

They have no knowledge and absolutely no interest in what life is like for anyone outside their tiny uber-privileged sect

Homelessness isn’t a lifestyle choice, but being a stone-hearted **** certainly is

Just read that comment on the BBC about homeless people living on the streets being a lifestyle choice. Words fail me…

What a loathsome ****

Remember, homeless people living in tents is entirely the fault of the charities that give them tents. That’s just encouraging them to make this lifestyle choice, if it weren’t for the charities then all these so-called homeless would be living in million pound houses like normal working people.

With regards to her edicts on protests supporting Palestinians it does seem as though no one has questioned, or really mentioned  the fact that her husband is a declared Zionist and she has close family in the Israeli arms forces. Her attempting to close down legitimate protest is much less of a surprise with that in mind.

<waggles hand> I don’t think it necessarily comes into it at all tbh, restricting the right of protest is one of their favourite hobbies, I think this is just a convenient excuse for it.

Almost nothing surprises me now. She’s like a deranged Daily Mail comment generator.

Think she’s taking lessons off Katie Hopkins just now, must be looking for a job at GBN when she’s punted out next year!

The comments about US cities definitely seemed like she was adding to her CV to be a Fox guest, much like Truss. It’s an alt-right trope about democrat cities that just didn’t make any sense in the context but will play really well over there when they want their 10 second vox pop about the Fall Of White Civilisation

Cold War Steve’s take on it…

Almost nothing surprises me now. She’s like a deranged Daily Mail comment generator.

tho in a surprise move if you go check the comments under the news article on the daily mail about this they are fairly negative towards Sue. Maybe the country isn’t as **** as I think.

Its because they are racist – and thus no matter how hard right and racist Braverman is they daily wail readers will not take to her because she is too brown

Given in other news the tories are apparently going to define as extremist anyone who ““undermines” the country’s institutions and its values,” i think its reasonable to define her as an extremist now along with most of the government.

One of my favourite Tory, Jonathan Gullis, believes that the term “white privilege” is extremist and racist and should be reported to the government’s counter-terror programme:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/oct/09/tory-mp-says-using-term-white-privilege-should-be-reported-as-extremism

It’s political correctness gone mad.

I thought it was madness gone politically correct?

What will be the tipping point, when the Middle England  demographic who are being fed this nasty pathetic rhetoric do wake up to the reality that the current flavour of  Tories are just kunts and they despise you as much as those unfortunates that find themselves without a roof.

Homelessness isn’t a lifestyle choice, but being a stone-hearted **** certainly is

That should be a Newsthump t-shirt.

All these madcap, undemocratic clickbait faux policies need to be brought up in every interview with any Tory to expose just how mad and dangerous they are. The minority of vocal idiots will lap it up, the silent/disinterested majority need to understand what this right wing strong(wo)man junta is capable of – following the Putin, Erdogan etc playbook

Judging by my right wing brexiteer family members never.  They still think Johnson was a great PM, brexit was not a huge mistake and that immigrants are to blame for everything.  Even when they could not get NHS care due to tory cuts and deliberate policy they still blamed everyone bar the tories

Just had a six hour drive so had six rage inducing on the hour radio4 news slots.

I’m **** ashamed to live in a country that the government ostracizes people who have absolutely **** all and are forced to live in a doorway or roundabout in a tent.

No let’s not help them, let’s demonize and ostracize them.

**** the daily mail, **** the Tories, **** Braverman.

Even the mail seem unsure about this.
I dared to look at their article and it wasnt overly enthusiastic and one of their staff sneaked in a rather good picture caption “The Home Secretary also wants to fine charities how hand out tents to the homeless so they don’t die of exposure”.
Comments arent exactly enthusiastic either although quite a few are going for the failed to keep migrants out/putting them up in 10* hotels and so leaving local homeless on the streets.

Wow, how embarrassing for Suella Braverman to have the Metropolitan Police Commissioner publicly claiming that he doesn’t know what she means by “hate marches” and saying, quote:

“She’s picked two words out the English language and strung them together”

Sounds to me very much like he is accusing her of talking gibberish 😳

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/met-commissioner-suella-braverman-hate-march-b2441796.html

I love that stuff.  Polite verbal putdown

To be fair to the Met, they can recognise political posturing when they see it and they’ve been not so subtlety telling her to **** right off for quite some time

They’re switched on enough to know that none of this bollocks will make it into legislation. They know it’s just verbal diarrhoea in support of her leadership bid with the senile old racists that make up the Tory membership

To be fair, if you can unite ernie, binners and TJ, you really are in an isolated position.

Given in other news the tories are apparently going to define as extremist anyone who ““undermines” the country’s institutions and its values,” i think its reasonable to define her as an extremist now along with most of the government.

Elsewhere (and possibly here too) I’ve been pointing out for months now that there are a load of 2nd generation immigrants (Braverman, Patel, Sunak, Kruger etc) who do not share my British Values, they’re “extremists” in my eyes.

We’ve ‘imported’ this hate, it needs to be dealt with.

To be fair to the Met, they can recognise political posturing when they see it and they’ve been not so subtlety telling her to **** right off for quite some time

I have no doubt that the Metropolitan Police Commissioner is acutely aware that he will be staying at his job a lot longer than the current Home Secretary will be at her’s.

In all likelihood the Home Office will become Braverman-free within a year.

We’ve ‘imported’ this hate, it needs to be dealt with.

Is there any evidence that Braverman’s and Patel’s parents share their daughters political views? Liz Truss’s father is famously disgusted with his daughter’s political views.

In the case of Suella Braverman it is becoming more and more obvious that she is deliberately going out of her way to be as “controversial” as possible.

She clearly relishes the attention-seeking notariety it brings. Her words are carefully chosen to shock and have maximum impact. In the same way as the very British Katie Hopkins did.

The problem for Braverman is that to maintain the publicity generating shock factor requires her to make evermore ridiculous and offensive remarks. Something which Katie Hopkins also discovered.

Unfortunately for them both the British people are nowhere as intolerant as they might think. In the case of Katie Hopkins it brought about her downfall and in all likelihood it will have a similar effect on Braverman’s career.

Is there any evidence that Braverman’s and Patel’s parents share their daughters political views?

There’s an interesting article from a few years ago.  Sunak, Patel, and Braverman’s families all arrived in the second wave of Indian immigrants from Africa rather than directly form India.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/27/how-did-british-indians-become-so-prominent-in-the-conservative-party

This isn’t to say anything about their parents attitudes or the attitudes of any other second wave Indian immigrants, just that it might explain why the current incarnation of the Tory party might be a good fit for people with this particular cultural background.

To fair there was a certain amount of long-term animosity between African Asians and Black Africans.

Many Africans, quite understandably, saw Asians in Africa as stooges of British colonialism. As a result of better education than Africans they gained positions of affluence.

When the British Empire disintegrated they were left behind, and not particularly welcomed, leading to a toxic relationship.

It is highly probable therefore imo that Braverman was brought up in a household with racist attitudes.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/braverman-homeless-tents-kings-speech-b2442943.html

“I think that language is deliberately designed to goad No 10 into probably firing her – I think Suella is looking to be fired,” he told BBC Newsnight.
Mr Bloom added: “It’s not just those [hate march] comments, it’s the comments that she made about people sleeping in tents. I thinks she is goading No 10 to get rid of her because she wants to launch her leadership campaign.”

I think that is a reasonable conclusion. Braverman is clearly trying very hard to be controversial, too hard in fact. There obviously has to be a motive.

It has previously been suggested that Braverman might resign to put distance between herself and Rishi Sunak’s electoral failure and give her leadership bid a boost.

How much better to be sacked so to firstly appear as a martyr for the Tory hard-right, and secondly to not allow accusations of disloyalty to the Tory leader which resignation would inevitably bring.

Interesting thought.  Its obvious she is trying to be the darling of the membership with her crazed announcements but thats really machivellian.  Not sure about it but its an interesting thought

It kind of makes sense… I mean, why else would she go out of her way to not just only be horrible to potential asylum seekers, why pick a fight with domestic homelessness/people on the verge of homelessness too?

There doesn’t seem to be any obvious logical reason for her to act like this, so it’s not a crazy leap that there’s some other motivation beneath the surface here…

And internal Tory wrangling/repositioning to further her personal gravy train seems to fit the bill.

People never do things without motivation, (regardless of whether that motivation is crazy or not) even if that motivation is not immediatly obvious.

Just had a six hour drive so had six rage inducing on the hour radio4 news slots.

I had less than an hours commute and still ended up shouting at the Tory lady on radio 4. The whole cabinet is a shower of sphincters.

At least some good has come from this…
£50000 for crisis.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/joe-lycett-suella-braverman-homeless-charity-362426/

She is certainly positioning herself for the leadership – a leadership she will never get unless the members choice is only of brown people or its a coronation like Sunak.

Well if the Tory membership is racist and won’t vote for a brown person as leader then that is really bad news for the Tory hard-right.

Suella Braverman’s two main rivals on the right of the Tory Party are Kemi Badenoch and James Cleverley.

Perhaps we should be celebrating the fact that the Tory membership is allegedly racist as it will presumably shift the party more to the left.

@tj Yep, she is absolutely positioning to be the next Tory leader.

I’m not so sure she wouldn’t get the Tory membership vote though.

There absolutely is a white racist type that laps up someone of colour being as racist and down right nasty as they are. It makes her “one of the good ones” in their eyes.

People like that absolutely do exist and plenty of them are no doubt card holding Tory party members.

I think after a poor GE showing (I hope) the Tory party will lurch even further to the right and that’s exactly what she is banking upon.

It’l be interesting to see how (if) The tories put a person of colour up for PM in a GE and how that affects the results at the ballot box… especially if they are the current lot… Sunak has never faced a GE, also Pritti and braverman.

Sunak is only PM by default as a result of internal tory politics.

I can’t see many people voting for Braverman in a GE… ‘people of colour’ will hopefully see she’s a hypocrite and hates her own kind in the pursuit of money.

Equally, the white racist middle and upper classes, and pensioners (core tory voters) would warm toward a white crook much more enthusiasticaly than a brown one, so that might not be a vote winner either.

At least some good has come from this…

£50000 for crisis

Brilliant. Just exasperating the problem! 

Man, the world makes me happy at times, but it needs to as there’s too many shits out there, too. 

No, not exacerbating the problem; exactly the opposite.