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  • PSA: Titanium 456 Evo's
  • cardo
    Full Member

    Oooh these look tasty available in Feb from On One. 10 year warranty too.

    Titanuim hardtail bling.

    andyl
    Free Member

    I was just looking. Bit of a shame they went with 30.9 post though as the carbon frames all have 31.6 so existing owners with droppers would need new ones.

    toys19
    Free Member

    is it lighter than a normal 456?

    andyl
    Free Member

    one should bloomin hope so!

    Rorschach
    Free Member

    No replacable mech hanger 🙁

    messiah
    Free Member

    Hmmm?

    Old-skool looking Ti dropouts and chainstay bottom bracket, plus the 3 piece seatstays makes it look very old fashioned. Would it have looked better if it was built more like this?

    I might be interested if On-One ever post a geometry which shows bottom bracket height or alxe drop for the EVO frames… especially if there are any cheap ones with squint ISCG/brake bosses 😉

    reggiegasket
    Free Member

    where’s the geo?

    c/mon… you can’t publish a £800 frame without the geo….

    wrecker
    Free Member

    where’s the geo?

    c/mon… you can’t publish a £800 frame without the geo….
    +1

    I’m not a big fan of on one, but this looks very very nice indeed. Good price too, at a time where manufacturers seem to think they can charge what they like for Ti frames. I may be coming around….

    andyl
    Free Member

    not rocket science guys: http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/FROO4561/on_one_456_evo_frame

    Click the geometry tab 😉

    messiah
    Free Member

    That geometry for the 456 EVO does not show bottom bracket height or alex drop… which for me is important as I’ve had bikes with over high BB’s before and I not likey.

    While we’re on the subject of ON-ONE and Planet-x geometry’s have you ever tried to compare two similar models? NONE of them are in the same format, all different places and all a miss match of metric and inches… conspiracy to bamboozle? Inneptitude? Historical?

    br
    Free Member

    not rocket science guys: http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/FROO4561/on_one_456_evo_frame

    Click the geometry tab

    That’s the steel version.

    crispedwheel
    Free Member

    Click the geometry tab

    That’s the steel version.

    Yep, and the ad states ‘updated EVO geometry’

    Whilst we’re at it, an ad for a £800 Ti frame without any indication of weight?

    Rorschach
    Free Member

    [brant]Heavier than carbon,lighter than steel.[/brant]

    andyl
    Free Member

    If I say the B word one more time he’ll probably appear and give you the BB height and weight etc 😀

    And yes, it is hard to compare models on the on one site. But then it’s hard to compare models for all bikes, especially when you start adding different length forks and which brand due to different a-c lengths etc. I had an idea for some software to help with that but I can’t program for toffee.

    ScottChegg
    Free Member

    NONE of them are in the same format, all different places and all a miss match of metric and inches… conspiracy to bamboozle? Inneptitude? Historical

    Nope, different frame builders will use different drawing packages. No-one at On One will think to convert it to a standard format as the info is there, and they have other things to do. Like reply to emails saying “where’s my EG frame..”

    cozz
    Free Member

    wait till they decide to do a Ti Fatty !!!

    brant
    Free Member

    Hello

    17mm bb drop with 140 fork static
    Geometry same as 456 Evo. I will get it copied across. Been in meetings day and head up arse with Strathpuffer prep.

    Thanks for understanding our oddness.

    grtdkad
    Free Member

    ^^^ Wahay ^^^ Brant to the rescue 🙂

    grtdkad
    Free Member

    Frame weight?

    br
    Free Member

    Hello

    17mm bb drop with 140 fork static
    Geometry same as 456 Evo. I will get it copied across. Been in meetings day and head up arse with Strathpuffer prep.

    Thanks for understanding our oddness.

    Says the man that couldn’t explain why my 20″ steel 456 had slightly different geometry to its replacement 20″ 456Ti – only discovered when I inserted the seatpost/seat and it was a slightly different angle…

    terrahawk
    Free Member

    Frame weight?

    about 4 pounds is my completely-without-foundation guess.

    chiefgrooveguru
    Full Member

    17mm bb drop with 140 fork static

    That’s pretty low, especially compared to the Ragley Blue Pig / Mmmbop etc at 5mm. But hang on, how can it be -17mm with 140 static when it’s -11mm with 150 sagged? 150 sagged is shorter than 140 static so BB should be lower?

    brant
    Free Member

    17mm bb drop with 140 fork static
    That’s pretty low, especially compared to the Ragley Blue Pig / Mmmbop etc at 5mm. But hang on, how can it be -17mm with 140 static when it’s -11mm with 150 sagged? 150 sagged is shorter than 140 static so BB should be lower?

    I will look into that. I remember it’s 5mm lower than the Ragleys. So some number is wrong somewhere.

    hora
    Free Member

    Ti frames are yesteryears news aren’t they? No longer a frame for life either.

    fivespot
    Free Member

    hora why would you want a frame for life ?……a month is long enough for you isn’t it 😀

    hora
    Free Member

    😀 I’d like to think the options their 😉

    IHN
    Full Member

    Ti frames are yesteryears news aren’t they?

    Especially custom Chinese ones, eh? 😉

    hora
    Free Member

    Especially custom Chinese ones, eh?

    No!

    loughor
    Free Member

    If you were between sizes, say 16″ and 18″, which size would you go for ? trying to write in the third person, so as to avoid clicking pre-order ! Thnx

    messiah
    Free Member

    On-One geometry oddities… Between the 16″ and the 18″ there is only 5mm in top tube length… and a whacking 51mm in seat-tube.

    IMHO… 16’s always look RAD TO THE POWER OF GNAR and 18’s always have mudguards and barends and computers and crap all over them 🙄

    one_bad_mofo
    Full Member

    No replacable mech hanger

    Why would you need one anyway? If you smack the hanger just bend it back (or get a shop/framebuilder to do it for you). Been there done that, not a problem.

    one_bad_mofo
    Full Member

    No replacable mech hanger

    Why would you need one anyway? If you smack the hanger just bend it back (or get a shop/frame builder to do it for you). Been there done that, not a problem.

    loughor
    Free Member

    Thanks Messiah. I’m in Hong Kong, and don’t know anyone with an on one to try unfortunately. Anybody else assist please ?

    patriotpro
    Free Member

    one_bad_mofo – Member

    No replacable mech hanger

    Why would you need one anyway? If you smack the hanger just bend it back (or get a shop/frame builder to do it for you). Been there done that, not a problem.

    What bag to carry “shop/frame builder”? Must have 3-litre-bladder…

    messiah
    Free Member

    Sorry to be a bit cryptic loughor but if your between a 16″ and an 18″ On-One buy the 16″ as the 18″ is hardly any bigger.

    messiah
    Free Member

    Is this one?

    Perhaps I’ll retract any comments I may have made about it being “ugly”.

    Rik
    Free Member

    Anybody got one? what’s it like?

    I_Ache
    Free Member

    Perhaps I’ll retract any comments I may have made about it being “ugly”

    Thats because its a 16″ the 18″ will look like a gate.

    loughor
    Free Member

    Rik, I’ve got one love it. I did open a thread with a few pics, sorry no time to search at the minute

    messiah
    Free Member

    This thread

    and luckliy its a 16″ so it looks good I Ache 😉

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