Pace RC129 vs Ritchey P29 vs alternative SSable steel 29er frame ?
I’m in the market for upgrading my ss Inbred – I’ve thought also about the Canfield Bros nimble 9 but heard it was relatively stiff – a little concerned I may experience diminishing returns as the inbred is pretty damn fit for purpose… Hoping to get a better riding frame not just something flashier …Posted 3 years ago
El Mars are a bit of a pain to get (he says from experience) as Ison don’t have any stock and need to special order them, a situation that’s only going to get worse in the short term. However, it is tremendous now I’ve actually got it. To suit fellow Glaswegians, I gather the frame only options will be green as well as orange next year.
There was another thread suggesting Pace had failed to pay for a batch of RC129s, which were then being sold cheap through a Hong Kong LBS…Posted 3 years agotakisawa2Subscriber
When I upgraded my Inbred I looked at Pace RC129, Singular Swift & a Niner SIR.9.
The Niner won, & it rides beautifully. I never tire of it.
Shortly after the new El-Mar came out, & that would have been on the list, but couldn’t find an old one anywhere.
But, three years on there’s some interesting options but in particular the Stooge.
From following the Stooge thread I totally get what the owner says about how it came about
I tried a Krampus & loved it but couldn’t help feel the frame was a bit of an anchor for a £1500 bike.
If the Stooge took a Knard out back the Niner would probably have to go.
I’ve even thought about costing up the frame mods to enable my SIR.9 to run 29+ front & rear.Posted 3 years ago
That would be my perfect bike. 🙂benjiSubscriber
The P29er is thread less, it’s the lack of straight (non-tapered) forks that kill it for me.
Ritchey do a WCS carbon fork for it, problem solved.
Got a Pace RC129 (ok I’ve got two, one built singlespeed the other awaiting building with gears)
You are going to struggle to get one now, unless shops have old stock as Pace had a big sell off the other year. I looked at the Ritchey it’s a frame of beauty, the only thing that really swung it was the price, and always wanted an RC200 but couldn’t afford it. The Pace does ride lovely, in a way that only a steel frame seems to, the forks are surprisingly compliant. The frame did come with there bottom bracket which so far has been spot on, regularly purge it with grease using the special tool. Only issue I’ve had was a dropout starting to rip up on tightening, but shortened the chain using a half link to bring the dropout in, and all is well again. Mud clearance is the best i’ve known no chain stay bridge and lovely hour glass stays, just help it fall through.Posted 3 years ago
Worth noting re my N9 is I couldn’t get a range extender to work. http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/hope-t-rex-and-xt-rm-clearance-not-arrrghhhhPosted 3 years ago
Bike will mainly be used for local trail xc / fitness / messing around on but I do like pump tracks and smooth trail centres and jumping as long as there is a good down hill landing .. Yes I’ve thought that P29 geo is quite XC ish but was hoping that a medium-sized might work if it’s long enough? – my inbred is a 16 – I like 29ers to feel a touch small but still long – looking to get a 25mm layback – P29 doesn’t look right in bigger sizes IMO ..Posted 3 years ago
The Curtis does look super nice – pretty much custom frame price bracket ..Posted 3 years ago
Feel like there are a lot of unquantifiable factors trying to upgrade – according to On One they stopped making the Reynolds versions of the Inbred as it rode identical to the 4130 – I’ve heard it said that the Ritchey P29 tubing is their own version of Reynolds ..CheezpleezSubscriber
I’ve just gone from an Inbred to a Stooge. It’s a very different ride – much more playful. I loved the Inbred but it was hard to lift the front. The Stooge is more nimble and less battering on the downs and I think it’s also a more comfortable ride.
It’s definitely more “trailsy” in feel and it’s built to take some punishment. Quite a different beast to the Richey, I reckon.Posted 3 years ago
Been peeping the Stooge thread – think I’d go for nimble 9 over one – EBB’s – maybe I’m being narrow minded – don’t think I want one – otherwise it looks sick ! – they defo deserve to sell out – In all honesty I don’t think I’m qualified to know optimum geometry for my needs – yes I love trying to jump and go faster on local trails – but I generally cycle out to the trail so covering some distance is still important – slacker angles are aesthetically pleasing but are they always as pleasing to ride taking into consideration xc duties also ?Posted 3 years ago
think I’d go for nimble 9 over one – EBB’s – maybe I’m being narrow minded – don’t think I want one
My N9 has sliders and they work fine.
I have had 3 bikes with EBBs, they all worked fine too.
A benefit of the sliders is you can use them to tweak the CS length and wheelbase, but that aside I wouldn’t let EBB vs sliders be a decider.
The key differences between the Stooge and the N9 are 1 EBB vs sliders, 2 rigid specific vs designed for sus forks, 3 cost, N9 being significantly more expensive.
Either would be a good decision.
slacker angles are aesthetically pleasing but are they always as pleasing to ride taking into consideration xc duties also
works fine for me but that’s personal
if you truly want an “XC bike”, the Swift is a good choice too.Posted 3 years ago
Regarding the N9 being designed specifically for Suss forks – I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that Chris Canfield ran some Niner rigid carbon on his …Posted 3 years ago
Didn’t know the. Ritchey frames were made in same factory as Surly – I know they are considered by some as somewhat overpriced..
Still no closer to pulling the trigger on replacing the inbred
Might get a powdercoat in the meantime ! (JMC Daryl Young Candy Apple Red ) GOAT colour IMHO..
I clarify, the N9 can do either of course, but the Stooge designer’s intention I believe is for it to be run rigid.
I’ve tried rigid on a couple of frames and didn’t get on with it, and the weight difference between steel rigid forks and sus forks isn’t much anyway. But lots of people love riding rigid.Posted 3 years ago
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