Neighbour from Hell – advice please.

Hoping the hive mind has experience of this and can offer some sensible suggestions on how I can get some peace for my street, as I, and several of my neighbours, are at the end of our tethers.

I live in a nice cul-de-sac, in a relatively nice area but somehow one of the small bungalows at the end of the close has been let as social housing. I’ve no problem with this, but the current tennant just doesn’t fit with the street.

She seems not to work, drink heavily and often ‘parties’ late into the night. My immediate neighbour is convinced the women is a prostitute as she has many gentleman ‘friends’ visiting at strange hours. She has verbally threatened me, and my wife, for parking outside her house and the attention that she pays to the upkeep of her proper is, shall we say, non-existant.

I fear that she is devaluing property prices in the street and would really like her ‘gone’. Can anyone suggest the best way to either get her to fall in line, or hopefully get her moved on all together?

Many thanks,

Mike.

Oooooh this should be good. Hobnob anyone?

gadzooks, have these people no sense of common decency ?

I’d put this in writing to the Mail at once as a warning to other right minded citizens in the area.

Have you tried complaining to the council?
Tell the police your neighbours suspicions?

Prostitute you say?

You want to get a lorry driver on the case.

*change gear, change gear…..*

Hang on, I’ll just put the kettle on. Hopefully property prices won’t have dropped too much by the time I’m back.

Anyone for popcorn?

I have had the police out, she was already known to them. Apart from a warning they say there is nothing they can do.

It is thought that she’s keyed a couple of the cars in the street, but again, without direct evidence there is nothing the police can do.

My wife feels very intimidated by her, she’s sure that the women is mentally unstable so I’m wondering if there’s anyway I can proove this and get her sectioned?

I’m honestly at the end of my tether, with the stress it’s causing my wife, I’ll try anything.

Paper bag of flaming dog poo on the doorstep?

Prostitute you say?? This thread is useless without pictures….

TSY (has a free evening next week)

*wonders if it’s okay to park outside C-C’s house? :lol:*

complain to the landlords is your best way

you are probably stuck with the problem, however

1. write to the housing association (HA)with a detailed list of complaints
2. write to the HA and ask them to close the “brothel” they have opened in your street
3. write to council complaining about noise etc
4. …. if you had contacts who could help with this option you wouldn’t be posting on here

prepare for a backlash if you do 1, 2 or 3

good luck, you will need it.

and ignore all the muppets taking the mickey, they don’t have your neighbour (however you really didn’t put the OP well!)

if she’s mentally unstable and clearly so when in a public place then the police can section her and take her to a psych unit for assessment…

BUT:

someone’s lifestyle choices and how they look after their property is surely none of your business, how is she “known” to the police out of interest, as a prostitute/car keyer or for not mowing her lawn?

or the dept who placed them in house if they’re causing issues/being antisocial.

Do you know the name of the housing association letting out the house?

Around here, they’re fairly proactive in helping with anti-social tenants, special phone-line, online report form etc. to the extent that if I have problem neighbours I’d hope that they were housing association tenants rather than private tenants.

she’s sure that the women is mentally unstable

gosh, you mean that isn’t enough to prove she’s mental?
have you and your neighbours tried complaining to the council. Every time there’s a party – complain. Loud noise – complain. Speak to your local councillor, about the state of the property as well as the noise. Act as a group, not as individuals. If you and your neighbours keep complaining to the police, they’ll think you’re time wasting idiots, but the couuncil may act.
Also, if she’s a hooker working out of a house, odds are she’s advertising someplace. Mate of mine had one working out of a flat, got fed up of the noise, so looked in the Sunday Sport, phoned all the numbers for his area till he found the one he was after. One call to the police, job done.

I have a very similar situation at my home. There are 8 houses opposite of which 6 are privately owned and 2 are Housing Association. The family in one of them is a nightmare, 5 kids, no working adults, ex druggies etc. I feel your pain, it’s not nice living near them and one thing i can guarantee you is that all of your houses will have been devalued as a result and even at lower prices will be difficult to sell whilst she lives there.

I looked into trying to get them moved but it seems somebody has to make an official complaint and that results in a record which you have to divulge if you try to sell your house so most people are put off. Also, she has nothing to lose by vandalising your property etc while she is untouchable as the Housing Association will keep sorting her out.

It would be nice to be able to talk with these people but they are generally so thick that it’s simply not worth the effort.

If she is a hooker you could try and find some evidence and present it to the HA so they can kick her out?

She seems not to work

– not really any of your business

drink heavily and often ‘parties’ late into the night

– if there’s noise involved at unreasonable hours (11pm – 7am, I think?) then contact your local Environmental Health department or her housing association. Keep a record of incidents.

My immediate neighbour is convinced the women is a prostitute as she has many gentleman ‘friends’ visiting at strange hours.

– I thought she didn’t work? 😛 Again, not really anyone’s business.

She has verbally threatened me, and my wife, for parking outside her house

– obviously that’s not on, you’ve already contacted the police, not really much more you can do other than keep a record of incidents and to contact her housing association if it happens again.

and the attention that she pays to the upkeep of her proper is, shall we say, non-existant.

– Again, this would probably be a matter for her housing association.

Someone operating a brothel in your street near your family obviously is your business (if that’s what she’s doing).

I believe that it’s a private landlord. It used to be rented out to a Polish family who were an absolute delight compared to this lady.

Philconsequence – The fact that she drinks heavily at all times of the day surely suggests some mental problems, and the way she squared up to me to complain about my car (I’m no small lad), she was frothing with rage, who do I need to contact?

Also, the police have been called before as she was threatening towards a child playing football in the street outside her house, though I didn’t get the impression from the police that, that was the only other run in that they’d had with her.

OP I also now live on a tiny/tight cul de sac.

Two neighbours warned me about a neighbour across/adjacent that they had run-ins and I would too over parking (the neighbours in question dont own a car but dont want anyones cars anywhere near their front).

So I parked a hire transit van across their drive for a few days and left it there every day purposely avoiding my own drive.

No problems. I even received a Christmas card from them 🙂

Sometimes mild confrontation helps(ed) in my case.

In your case (I had a drunken neighbour who played Ring of Fire etc at all hours whilst off his head). I just got onto (Croydon) council and kept at their nuisance unit. Can you imagine each nuisance unit at councils receives all sorts of petty cases? Grudges etc? So they probably have a Triage system.

Keep at it, keep recording times and dates and keep involving the Police.

TBH if anyone in such a situation keyed my car it’d turn very nasty very quickly. Thats not a keyboard warriorism- I just don’t like anyone who hasn’t the guts to do it to your face.

she’s sure that the women is mentally unstable so I’m wondering if there’s anyway I can proove this and get her sectioned?

Classy. Complain to the landlord – its in their interests that their tenant isn’t causing trouble.

Troll alert.

Wee in her shoes?

Though she might well charge extra for this…

it’d be the police you need to contact if, and only if, she’s obviously mentally unwell AND in a public place…. so away from her home in the street.

I’m with TSY… a party loving girl who entertains men and likes to drink sounds like a fun person to know 😉 do you think you could get away with telling the wife you’re going over to “have words about the state of her house?”…. i suppose it’ll give you a chance to see if she charges!

Seriously, if she makes me pay she deserves a one way ticket to the nut house 😆

Ay’up DD… how’s the non-smoking going? I’m back to 3 days and counting 🙁

So I parked a hire transit van across their drive for a few days and left it there every day purposely avoiding my own drive.

Hang on. You tried to piss off a new neighbour on purpose?

for the right amount of money i can make sure she’s ‘gone’

sheesh…

the attention that she pays to the upkeep of her proper is, shall we say, non-existant.

I fear that she is devaluing property prices in the street

what does/doesnt she do to the property?

is it the state of the house, or her actions that are devaluing your property? or both?

It used to be rented out to a Polish family

Was that Mr & Mrs Sheen?

It doesn’t sound too bad, my old terrace house had Fourteen thirsty (for vodka) Latvian builders living one side of me and a let house of 8 young proffessionals (drunken chavs) the other… I contacted my local council about the problems I was having and they said move house – so I did…. I am now loving the Suburbs 😀 If I was you I would track down the actual owner of the house and whenever you get grief, whatever time of the day, pass that grief on to the person who is making money out of the tennant. I found out the home number of the managing director of the building firm hiring the latvian builders. I called him at 4 am and asked him the best avenue to go down to prevent his employees playing their porn loudly – 2 mins later the house fell silent lol…

she’s sure that the women is mentally unstable so I’m wondering if there’s anyway I can proove this and get her sectioned?

Nice, you want your house price to remain the same, so you want to try to get someone sectioned. who said community spirit was dead?

found out the home number of the managing director of the building firm hiring the latvian builders. I called him at 4 am and asked him the best avenue to go down to prevent his employees playing their porn loudly – 2 mins later the house fell silent lol…

That’s brilliant!

Hora – I quite like the idea of antagonising her a little, a bit for petty satisfaction, but more to expose what a fruit-loop / aggressor she is.

If I can get her out at this time of the year arguing with my work van in her ‘summer clothes’ (or as my wife puts it: “thats not a skirt, thats a belt”), that can only help, surely?

I also like the idea of hassling the landlord more, I’ve confronted him over her in the past. He seemed sympathetic to her situation, pointing to a tough life, deceased husband etc, obviously he denied she was a prostitute but did allude to mental frailty…

Reading between the lines Mr Cash Cowell, did you do the dirty and now its all kicking off a little too close to home eh?

well you know the saying about foxes not fouling outside their set don’t you?

my suggestion would be to buy a caravan and live in a lay-by for a couple of years till it all blows over.

cul-de-sac

I think that’s the problem right there. I did it once, never again!!

Also, be very careful with throwing around accusations of mental instability. Whoever said it, no the Police can’t just section and have an assessment, the assessment comes first and the Police play a small part in that process, it just isn’t that simple.
They can intervene with a MHA 1983 section 136, very different, and is used in extreme circumstances to allow the assorted MH professionals to be rounded up to do a proper assessment. Also it’s limited to 3 days at a place of safety, which could even be their own home, if known to services already.

Also, us proper mentalists get a bit worried by random finger pointing by the pitchfork wielding curtain twitchers. Stuff like this can severely hinder attempts to live amongst the normals unspotted.

Complain to the landlord A LOT, they’ll soon get fed up and move them on.

HTH

mortuk2k, that was me… i was suggesting the section 136… just without using the actual name.

in a public place then the police can section her and take her to a psych unit for assessment…

if she’s living her life – not at risk to herself or others and its just some personality/housekeeping issues with the neighbours then the police shouldn’t/wont even bother with a 136.

IF, and only if she is sectioned under a 136 for whatever reason then she could and probably would end up back home in 3 days (if all this does turn out to be just histeria from the OP and neighbours)… thats if they even decide she’s worth using a 136 on.

its not my place, or STW’s… or the OP’s place to decide if she’s mentally unwell.

They are activly encouraged to find private rentals these days. If they can find the first months rent the council will pick it up from then on. Probably why one such family have got themselves a nice £300k house in Lichfield. Parents fresh out of nick for dealing, kicked out of the HA house they were dealing from. £1400 a month rent & £2.5k/yr c/tax picked up by the council. Place was lit up like Las-Vegas for Xmas. Subaru’s & 4×4’s double parked all over the street. Someone naughty person got in & flooded the place to try to delay them moving in, but to no avail.
Of course, its none of my business. 🙄
If folk made it their business it might change, but N.I.M.B.Y eh…

Phil – You sound like you have some experience in the mental health field. I can continue to complain to the relevant people / authorities, but what sort go things should I be looking for that might indicate instability, or risk to others? What about if she was having fires in her front garden, instead of just collecting junk?

Loving the bollox about sectioning.

sure that the women is mentally unstable so I’m wondering if there’s anyway I can proove this and get her sectioned?

Nope.

Sectioning is for somone who is a danger to themselves or others not just a bit shouty. People are allowed to make unconventional lifestyle choices.

Policea nd council are the people to complain to as wellas the landlord and act with your other neigbours

Nimbyism is safe and well down a cul de sac somewhere