My new Fat bike

druidh, there’s loads of people on here who are just up for trying something different cos it’s fun. I applaud those people.

Then there are the people who literally wouldn’t be seen dead on a standard bike from a mainstream manufacturer, or seemingly even ride with other people that had them. I don’t applaud those people….

despite claiming not to care what others think.

I couldn’t give two ***** what you think about my bikes.
But it does grate a little with you constant wrong accusations of snobbery.

As others have said you’ve even been offered a go on any of my bikes.
That isn’t the action of a snob in my book.
If you met me the last thing you’d accuse me of is being a snob. I might be many things but i ain’t a snob.

You on the other hand seem to have some kind a reverse snobbery thing going on.

hen there are the people who literally wouldn’t be seen dead on a standard bike from a mainstream manufacturer, or seemingly even ride with other people that had them.

Care to name them?

grum – Member
Then there are the people who literally wouldn’t be seen dead on a standard bike from a mainstream manufacturer, or seemingly even ride with other people that had them. I don’t applaud those people….

I honestly can’t say I’ve read anything to suggest that. I would ask you to quote examples, but it doesn’t really matter. If that’s your opinion, nothing is likely to change it.

(Cube owner) 🙂

Most of the owners of fat bikes and othe niche items that I know are usually the ones taking other riders out for guided tours and helping to enthuse beginners about the joys of riding, regardless of what you ride. I’m sure there are some nobends out there like there are in all walks of life regardless of bike type

To be fair to the guys with unusual bikes, most of the arguments originate when some tool makes a snidey comment. If you’ve nothing positive to offer, just stay out of the thread.

If you’ve nothing positive to offer, just stay out of the thread

That should apply for all threads IMO.

singlespeedstu – Member
Everyone I know that has a fatbike couldn’t care less what anyone that’s never riden one thinks of them.
They’re to busy having fun on them. It’s not about how they look it’s how they bring a smile to your face when you ride them.

Seconded with Stu
Fat Bikes, Weird Bikes “normal” bikes, who cares what pepole think if you like it and have fun on it just ride it.

Just remember one important thing if you haven’t tried it don’t knock it

With the exception of ‘up the bum’ 😕

40 – 50 mile route planned tomorrow, passing through sherwood pines at some point, if you’re there and open minded say HI –

(the above is not a reference to “up the bum” !!!)

Am after a pugsley fatbike, do the sizes equate to mtb, as I am in NJ usa and as the snow gets about a foot deep i need a fatbik, last year I tried putting a ski on the front wheel and studded back tyre, worked in the compacted snow but not soft, I didn’t ride my bikes for about 2 months. I did try but pushing my bike through the snow got boring in about 10mins and the roads had so much ploughed snow at the sides it made the roads narrow

sizes kinda equate, except its like running a 29er (larger wheel circumference)

Think there will be people over there with bikes you could try – ask on the fat bike section of mtbr

My 26″ On One and Overbury are 16″ so is the Pugsley. The height of the tyres make very little difference to me………enjoy..

who kidnapped Grum and replaced him with that narrow minded doppleganger?

i don’t like that grum man Mum

love that frankenfatbike, kerwality!

grum – Member
….Well personally I consider these ‘fat bikes’ to be terribly dull and vanilla. Everyone knows they have become too common now, I ride one of these to make me feel superior and special…

It really puzzles me why we get posts of this tenor, not just for fatbikes, but any time anyone does something different with a bike or expresses enthusiasm for riding it or their local conditions.

You can see this happening with singlespeeds, 29ers, fixies etc. Anything that varies from the norm gets turned into an insult eg

grum – Member
…And generally I like it here – apart form the **** niche snobbery. ?

But why? Surely what someone else rides or their enthusiasm for their bike shouldn’t be so threatening to another person’s self image that they post stuff like that?

Or is there a hidden superior secret society of cyclists called the Norm Enforcers? Visions of a special handshake, meetings conducted in suitable cafes. What do they wear, can we join?

All bikes are fun, even BSOs.

Project – ginormo fat wheel…..FAIL 🙁

It’s far to big to be usable although it does look mental. I’d need a frame about 6ft long to not get toe overlap and arms like a baboon to turn it. It comes up nearly 33″ by 3.6″ knob to knob which also rules out any fork in christendom other than a complete custom job.

Back to the drawing board.

a 650B version might just work 😉

bugger and arse..oh well I suppose the big fat fails will amuse some on here 😆

tazzymtb – Member
Project – ginormo fat wheel…..FAIL
It’s far to big to be usable although it does look mental. I’d need a frame about 6ft long to not get toe overlap and arms like a baboon to turn it…

I’ve been thinking about your project since you mentioned it. Did a few scribbles on graph paper.

What I thought would be needed would be a steep head angle to keep the wheelbase short enough which would result in a very long TT. Then you would need bars with a big sweep back which would put your hands in about the usual position related to the front axle.

The lower part of the seat tube would need to be a duplex tube which would allow the large wheel to be further forward.

That was the only way I could see you getting a reasonable wheelbase, but I thought it was a workable proposition.

As for the fork. Did you ever see my DIY fatbike fork? I think some of the downhill forks have pretty wide stanchions. If one of those was converted like my fork I think you may be able to get your tyres in. Maybe all you need is a clapped out downhill fork (Plenty stanchion length to play with). Come to that, if you were building a frame it would be easy enough to knock up a wider fork crown.

I was hoping to keep it kind of fat bike 69er with a normal fat wheel in the back, oh well off road penny farthing fat bike anyone 😆

Mmmm. Just got back from a ride on my fatbike and a night out in the pub with a few mates. Some of them were on Specialized’s and Giant’s…

None of them accused me of being a niche snob.

Looks like a few others that have posted on this thread think that riding a bike that’s not identical to theirs have no problem with it either.

Seems it is you that has the problem then grum.

Maybe a spin round on mine* would help you to smile a little and remember what having a laugh is like.

*Or anyone else that’s offered.

Just been out to the shed and measured up my Salsa Enabler fork. It is approx 17″ from axle to crown so your wheel may fit in so long as the tyre has enough curve to clear the fork crown.

I can lend it to you to try for size – can’t let you keep it because I’ll need it shortly for my next project.

My friends at the pub think I’m a niche freak for riding a bike regardless of tyre size, brand etc.

There all into this Liverunited and Arsnal Wednesday sh!te

cheers for the offer epicyclo, I’ll probably muscle the beast into the car and go and see tim at sideways to play “which fork will this fit”.

shep- you need new mates then 😉

Singlespeed_Shep – Member
My friends at the pub think I’m a niche freak for riding a bike regardless of tyre size, brand etc…

Jeez, a new niche! Pedestrian.

Probably feel superior to us cyclists because they can do their pedestrianising in shopping malls and stairs and stuff.

Burn the niche mongering heretics! 👿

Tazzy…your tyre…weight, cost, oics etcc please?

I’m pretty obsessed with cycling, and take my hat off to to the niche crew as I admire the way some of you celebrate cycling; I don’t even have an issue if there is a bit of ‘look at me’ in it, why not? But these threads always collapse into the same names having some big group hug in response to a few less than sophisticated wind up merchants, it just makes you look a bit precious. I love seeing all the pictures of the bonkers, to my mind, contraptions some of you are riding, but I’m starting to avoid these threads due to the repetive bitching and the trying too hard responses. So from my purely selfish point of view, ignore the haterz and just keep posting pictures of mad bikes and your adventures, ta.

I wanted a fatbike so I WOULD feel superior and be able to sneer at trail monkeys … i’m a touch upset now after reading the post, to know that this might not happen 😉

well,I’ve just come back from the first real test ride on the Frankenfat,it didn’t break or crack,and I didn’t die.
Few small tweeks needed,stem and seat position,slightly dragging rear brake,that’s it really,oh and a big huge **** off mudguard required,boy do Larrys chuck some water up ! (mind you Chase is Very wet this morning)

so basically 😆 😆 😆

did have two separate people stop me to ask about it,and that was at about 7.00 a.m.

so the attention seeking/grabbing defo working well 😉

Here’s a fat bike video that actually looks cool and fun – not just being smug about riding through a bog. 😉

Seems it is you that has the problem then grum.

I do have a problem with you as it goes – you’ve seriously offended me in the past so mebbe I am bearing a bit of a grudge which I guess is a bit pointless. Thanks for the offer of a go on your bikes though, would probably be up for it but I think you’re a bit far away.

Good work keef – looking forward to seeing the pics of how you did it.

I really don’t know why a few (and it is just a few) constantly come onto <pic ‘niche’ thread> to bitch about it. It wouldn’t occur to me to slate anyone who rides a major brand ‘standard’ bike.

Do these people also go on car forums to deride anyone who doesn’t drive a Ford Fiesta?

Damn meant to post this link.

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/surly-pusley-in-sand-dunes-and-a-wee-crash-video

Looks like ace fun.

Do these people also go on car forums to deride anyone who doesn’t drive a Ford Fiesta?

Try reading what I actually posted instead of putting words into my mouth. Dunno why everyone gets so het up TBH…

it just makes you look a bit precious.

Grum

Firstly, you assume I was talking specifically about you. I wasn’t, so it would be rather difficult to put words in your mouth.
But seeing as you have brought it up, here’s a few of your contributions

Just wondering, once fat bikes become too common and boring like just having a singlespeed rigid 29er or whatever – what is going to be the next niche for everyone to froth over?

but I can think of far more interesting places to ride a bike. I’ve seen quite a few sneery posts from fatbike users about people who ride at trail centres etc.

Mebbe, I’ve just seen quite a few posts from the fatbike users along the lines of ‘I ride my bike in these unusual places which makes me special and better than other people’

Well personally I consider these ‘fat bikes’ to be terribly dull and vanilla.

I feel a bit sorry for people who need an unusual bike to make themselves feel special, and are constantly unsatisfied and looking for the next fad.

Obviously at least one of those was said tongue in cheek (hopefully) but the basic tone was set and you have tried to backtrack considerably in the latest posts.

You are as entitled to your opinion as anyone else on here but don’t go bleating when someone disagrees with you and defend themselves against accusations of snobbery and their right to ride WTF they want.

Obviously at least one of those was said tongue in cheek (hopefully) but the basic tone was set and you have tried to backtrack considerably in the latest posts.

Whatever. You’ve missed out quoting the bit on the first page where I said that fat bikes looked like fun. That sand dune video actually looks like something fun you couldn’t really do on a normal bike – which isn’t something I’ve really seen much evidence of before.

Are people really so sensitive that they can’t take a small amount of ribbing or the suggestion that something might not be the most amazing thing ever without getting all upset up about it?

Oh well, I guess that makes it all ok then 🙄

Oh I’m sorry, perhaps I should just make some insulting tags – that would be the constructive thing to do eh?

Thanks for pointing out the tags. Two of the four are ‘niche follower’ jibes – your point is?

Well I didn’t make any of them – but my point is some people are choosing to make personal insults via the fairly cowardly method of tags, and yet apparently I’m the one being unreasonable? 😆

Both groups said that they felt that ‘people’ or ‘they’ perceive them in a negative way. This suggests that they construct themselves as being ‘outside’ mainstream culture (see Quote 3, Appendix B). The construction here is of an identity of a group that defines themselves more favourably than the norm.

The participants were aware of their role as ‘outsiders’. They spoke about prejudice from ‘people’ and ‘them’, suggesting that society perceives them negatively. They identified themselves in contrast to the ‘mainstream’ and the ‘norm’, generally constructing this as rule-governed, inflexible and intolerant, whilst their own group was free, open-minded, and accepting. They generally constructed their identities in contrast to ‘normal’ people of their age who followed fashion and trendy music. They have responded to accusations of ‘otherness’ and ‘difference’ by embracing these qualities as positive.

Any of this sound familiar? It’s from a sociological study of Goths and Satanists. 😛

Anyway………..

any fool that tries to carry out a sociological study on a genre of music and a sub sect of Christianity as if they are somehow linked is obviously massively misguided and knows cock all about their subject matter.

A bit like you when you pop up as the “harbinger of whining ya bag off” on any thread about anything different to you grum.

you’ve seriously offended me in the past so mebbe I am bearing a bit of a grudge which I guess is a bit pointless. Thanks for the offer of a go on your bikes though, would probably be up for it but I think you’re a bit far away.

Thank you grum.

That means a lot to me that you’ve moved on from any offence that i’ve caused in the past.