Mounjaro, wegovy, omazpic…any experiences

I think you might be able to get it on the NHS if you go through all their other options/weigh loss programs first, but whether you could then chose mounjaro over the others available or get what you’re given I don’t know.

It would seem the majority of people are getting it private and off setting the cost with less food/takeaways bought and doing extra work.

I’m paying just around £220 a pen from Superdrug online pharmacy , there are other suppliers and at cheaper prices if you shop around, but I was happy to stay with them as a known entity.  I’m hoping I’ll not be getting it for more than 5/6 months. We can’t really afford it, but I can’t not afford it as (apart from general health ) I need to get my BMI down enough to get a re-referral to orthopedics for my likely knee replacement.

A pen can actually last 5 weeks as there is an extra dose in it that you can’t access unless you force the pen mechanism with pliers, or use another syringe and needle in it to extract and use it. Obviously people paying £200 are not about to throw a ‘free’ dose in the bin.

Food for thought.

is this the stuff Sharon Osbourne is on?

I thought she had a gastric band fitted……?  She was proper fat before becoming a stalwart of BGT.

I think the problem is modern diet and life has killed normal satiety for a lot of people, add in some work frustrations, family stress and money worries and eating healthily can be a problem that can be hard to cope with on those peoples day to day priorities.

It’s not….  gluttony is the problem.

If you have an active job or lifestyle  you needn’t feel guilty whilst eating your full English/Scotch breakfast or steak and ale pie (or Schweinsbraten mit Weißbier). If you’re a desk jockey commuting by car or train and eating the the above you’re going to get fat.

I’ll drink a bottle of wine and/or have a couple of beers during the day/evening.

For example today I drank two Weißbier, a bottle of wine and ate a mortadella di Campotosto salami* and a plate of pasta.

I went for a three hour walk.

I’ll admit, my diet is shit. I eat what I want, drink too much, but I move daily. Whether that be cycling or going for a stroll. Currently have enough time that I can choose to be active.

When I didn’t have a much free time and wasn’t working (carpenter so generally quite active) I put on weight despite not being quite so greedy.

I’m 41, 5’7″ and 70kg….. Was recently feeling great at 68kg,but a few months over winter spent eating and drinking more than I should have saw me fatten up to 75kg. Been working on losing the fat for the past few months.

Eating more than necessary will see that you get fat.

*https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortadella_di_Campotosto?wprov=sfla1

If you have an active job or lifestyle

There’s much research showing that you’ll even out your energy use regardless of the job or lifestyle you have. If you are doing a job that’s active, your body saves energy in other ways, by becoming more efficient or slowing down other processes, or making you tired. You can’t expect to eat a lot of food and hope to exercise it off. One day of a few beers, and wine and some fatty food isn’t going to make a difference, do that for months at a time, and regardless of your job or exercise habits, you’re going to put on weight – as you discovered.

But this thread isn’t about diet, it’s about @longdog experience of taking weight loss drugs.

But this thread isn’t about diet, it’s about @longdog experience of taking weight loss drugs.

That. Although the other stuff is valid in its own place let’s not get detailed too far.

If you are doing a job that’s active, your body saves energy in other ways, by becoming more efficient or slowing down other processes, or making you tired

The same seems to be true after talking drugs long term…. The effects wear of and your body adapts. Be that alcohol, MDMA, or seemingly weightloss drugs.

Are you suggesting the good old fashioned E-plan diet instead Alpin?

or seemingly weightloss drugs

Do you have a source for that?

Oh dear. Can’t people just concentrate on the thread title and subject matter, without the need to get on horses and ride them on high.

As said this is not a debate about how to lose weight, it is a thread about one persons journey on his chosen path to do so.

It could also be about a second person as I too am not taking Mounjaro, and have just started my 3rd week on the small dose. So far I have had no side effects other than not wanting to buy half the supermarket when shopping.

I’m combining it with more cycling than I’ve done for years, back in the gym for 3 heavy sessions a week and general trying to look after myself.

After many years of not being able to eat sensibly (25), I am now on a great path thanks to the drug.

What happens will ultimately be down to me. My belief is that it will help me break habits and stop cravings for sweet and sickly terrible foods.

We’ll see in the log run but so far so good.

That said, I’m not looking forwards to thunderpants, so hopefully it was an isolated case 🤣

Good luck

If the OP’s about, any update on this? Interested to hear how it’s going

Only just noticed this thread and thought I would throw my hat into the ring.

Started on Mounjaro 2 weeks ago and I have to say for me it proving to be good news so far.

My interest in food has decidedly dropped and my hunger has largely gone away.

Lost a poo load of weight so far but fully appreciate that much of this will be water loss.

Had no side effects so far.

I have struggled over the years to control my weight and started at 20st 8lb. To me this feels like a game changer.

This is the nail on the head for me! I honestly cannot remember a time in all my 54 years when I have not had thoughts of food at the forefront of my mind all the time along with non stop cravings. I’ve hated it and hated myself because of it. Only as an adult on my late 20s did I suddenly realise that when someone puts a plate of biscuits out they’re are just a selection for if you want one, not something that you need to finish off or even eat at all. I’ve hated buffets or if I had to go to an all you can eat place with people for years because I know I just cannot get a sensible plate of food and leave it. I can’t stand wasted and left over food and would be that bin that dealt with it.

Unless this is you, you just simply cannot understand it.

With this injection the cravings have gone, the ‘food noise’ has gone, other than because of me thinking about food to plan ahead so that I can eat sensibly and healthy. This is that window of time where the noise has gone and I can hopefully retrain my mind to lose those life long ingrained habits so that I can lose the weight I need, and then keep it off with a total shift in my relationship to food.

To save me some writing, longdogs post from three months ago pretty much echoes my experience and food relationship.

I’ve always been overweight. I’m also fit as a fiddle, strong, and motivated enough to make a good living self employed.  Eat less, move more is the simplest of concepts but extremely hard to execute for a great many people.

Look around, the majority of people are now overweight to some degree. How many of them would like to be slim?  All of them, save for a tiny number of mentally unwell folks perhaps.  Being fat sucks in so many ways.

I did my rEsEARch! and decided to start Mounjaro a month ago. Apart from having to pay about £35 a week for it, I have only positive feedback to give.  So far, it is truly a game changer.

Any negatives you read about these peptides are almost entirely because people are using them to starve.  Extremely rapid weight loss will lead to bad health outcomes, whether it’s facilitated with chemical help or not.

I use kettlebells for my resistance training several times a week. I have a benchmark YouTube workout I return to regularly to check my progress, and I’ve been getting steadily a little stronger over the past four years.  In my late forties, I’m happy with maintenance or slight improvement in fitness and strength.  I did that workout on Friday and pushed the weight up a little, using a 32kg for part of it where I’d previously used 24.  It left me pretty burst but wasn’t a problem to complete.

I’ll continue to keep an eye on strength while losing weight.  I’m down about 2.5 lbs per week over the past month.  I’m aiming to get away with the lowest dose I can to maintain that sort of rate.

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Good luck with it @Bedmaker, it’s been great for me. I’ve gained muscle while using it as well as losing fat with increases in all my lifts, so no I’m not a saggy wasted away bag of lose skin and bones despite what some on here think it will do.

I’m just about to finish it after dropping 23kg in body weight.  Well, I’ve got a week left from my current 10mg pen, and then ordered another one to use to titrate down. Though i cant see any thing saying you need titrate down it seems a good idea to hopefully avoid any savage appetite racing back.

I’d get yourself some insulin needles off Amazon or somewhere (super cheap) as you’ll find there’s an extra dose in each pen that you can’t get out otherwise as the plunger isn’t long enough, so you can get 5 weeks instead of 4 weeks from each one. Also useful if you decide to titrate up at any point to avoid side effects. IIRC when I went to 7.5mg I had some bad stomach issues, but splitting my dose into half a dose every 3 days for a bit resolved that.  To get to no1 on the pen is 60 clicks, so half a dose is 30, quarter 15, etc easy to figure out.

Thanks @longdog I’ve taken the fifth dose of my first pen.  I bought a pack of tips to fit the pen rather than syringes.  The last dose comes out fine but the top is harder to turn out, it just needs forced.

I’m intending to split the 5mg dose, as it seems that side effects are most common moving to that dose from 2.5.

Ah, I tried that as I had spare screw on tips, but despite being able to turn the dial right out it wouldn’t push in far enough to get to the end of the syringe.

Yeh it might have been the jump to 5mg right enough as you are doubling the dose.

Anyway good luck, it sounds like you know what you’re doing 🙂

I’m just about to finish it after dropping 23kg in body weight.

That’s a tremendous effort in such a short time-frame, well done. You must be chuffed.

This stuff sounds awesome, wish I could afford it.

This stuff sounds awesome, wish I could afford it.

Affordability will depend on how long term you need to be on these drugs, and whether a short term course can re-set metabolic thresholds.

If it’s the latter, and you’re an actual unit, then you can’t not afford to try them imho. You’ve probably seen stories of glp1 agonists curing all sorts of ills – this is not entirely made up as so many illnesses and problems lie downstream of obesity.

I’m going to speak to my GP about it.

Make sure it’s from a reputable source

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn00dkw9479o

Cheers NickC 🙂

I got mine from Super Drug online GPs, more expensive than most, but a source I felt happy with and the service has been great.

The cost has become unsustainable for us with limited income and other commitments, but it’s done it’s job re. my BMI for orthopedic referral and also helped with changing life long bad habits that caught up with me. Hopefully I can keep my better relationship with food going.

You’re very unlikely to get it through your NHS GP, but itd be great if you did. There isn’t even a NHS program to go through where I am before they’d consider you for it, which they won’t here.

Anyone buying it cheap from health spas, nail bars and Botox places as I saw on TV are just asking for bother; seems dumb to me.

So I spoke to my GP today. While she agrees that it’s something that I would likely benefit from she is unable to prescribe it. For that I have to go to a weight loss specialist with a 2 year waiting list.

Its crap @Doomanic isn’t it :'(

I know someone else (England ) who’s got on weight loss program with a view to getting one of the weight loss drugs, but not sure if that will actually materialise. As I said the only one that was running here hasn’t for sometime, my GP didn’t offer any support at all when I’d been knocked back by orthopedics due to my BMI.

What happens will ultimately be down to me. My belief is that it will help me break habits and stop cravings for sweet and sickly terrible foods.

I think this is the key thing.  without lifestyle change when you stop taking the drugs then the weight will go back on

These drugs are interesting and I shall try to find out more

The Docs who lift podcast is a good source of info.  They’ve done a whole series delving into the various iterations of these medications.

I hope in time they will be more easily availble with better control and education in the UK.  I’m also on a FB group and the level of ignorance and downright dangerous behaviour is staggering.  The drugs will be / are being blamed for lots of ills which are due to starvation.

I know a few people who’ve used these drugs and the results tend to be pretty spectacular. More so than the normal ‘eat less cakes, exercise a bit’ people seem to believe is the equivalent.

The lifestyle change is interesting.  Many people eat out of habit, ingrained over a lifetime.  If you take a drug that removes your desire to eat for 6 months, that will potentially have a long lasting effect by retraining you

Update for anyone interested.  I’ve been steadily losing just over 2lbs per week, now down to 14st 4lbs.  Heaviest was 17st 5, and started the jab at 16st 10.

Waist is down 3-4 inches.  Negative side effects have continued to be very mild, almost negligible really.

Upper body strength feells same as ever doing my benchmark KB workout.  I suspect I’ve lost a little strength in my legs as squats don”t feel 15KG easier.  Unsurprising I suppose, as they aren’t getting resistance trained all day every day like before – my job is quite physical.

Biking wise, the difference uphill isn’t as amazing as I’d have imagined.  Downhill has surprised me with how different it feels, much floatier and easy to stop/ slow down in the winter slop!  Need to think about a new coil soon too.

Highly recommended!

I was on it for a few months, lost about 10kg but couldn’t afford to keep it up. I kind of got a bit used to it, in the final month it sort of felt it was as much my willpower as the drug, and that has been born out after the fact. I haven’t lost any more weight afterwards but my weight has been stable, and I do feel more in control and able to say to myself “you know what, I have had enough now I don’t need to eat any more”.

I also hurt my back just as I was coming off it, which means my activity levels have been very low, I was barely able to walk for a couple of months or even clean house, I was working from home a lot, and basically my main activity was moving between my bed, settee and desk. So with such a low activity level I was quite happy to keep my weight stable. I am hoping that now my activity levels are increasing again I will start slowly shifting some more weight.

So for me I feel it was very worthwhile in shifting my relationship with food even just using it for a relatively short period, but that was my plan all along in using it, I never went into it expecting to use it until I developed a six pack, it was always intended as an aid to change my own mentality. I hope I can keep the new mentality up long term, I feel quite confident I can at the moment.

Nice update. Hopefully the drugs are becoming more accepted to the general populous, or rather the people taking it are.

Since starting on Mounjaro in May I’ve gone from people turning their noses up at me ‘cheating’ to mostly genuine interest in how much weight I’ve lost. For me, it has helped mainly by limiting my desire to crap food stuffs and portion size.

If I do feel the need to eat something bad, I don’t fight it and have said food stuffs. This is very rare – perhaps once a fortnight – and when I eat the star bar or whatever I then feel full half way through it. Allowing myself to eat it seems to work as the feeling I then get from being full and slightly sickly means I have very rarely craved the same thing more than twice.

Health wise, I’m down from 127Kg to 105Kg, my lowest for 20 years. Still less than half way there but it feels great so far.

All my blood stats are now normal and I’m no longer pre diabetic.

So for me it is working very well. Not the dramatic ‘lose 10 kg in a week’ type internet story, but a steady 1Kg average loss, no side effects and better health.

No downsides, apart from £200 a month.