More Badenoch madness

I don’t think there is anything remotely old-school Tory in her politics.

Not often me and thee agree on things @ransos, but me neither. When I think of ‘Old School’ Tory I think of what Thatcher referred to as the ‘wets’. Your John Majors and more laterly, say, the likes of David Gauke. One Nation Tories.

They simply don’t exist any more since the takeover of the party by the Brexit headbangers and the few remaining ones were purged by Johnson when he became leader. Since then we’ve just watched the total Faragisation of the party and Badanoch is the very living embodiement of that. A populist, right-wing nationalist, rabid Brexiteer and obsessive culture warrior. The fact she’s a woman of colour is neither here nor there. Totally irrelevent.

The Lib Dems will lose half their seats at the next election. The Conservative voters who voted Lib Dem at the last election did so out of fatigue. They are still Conservative in the main.

The Lib Dems have gleefully hoovered up the votes of those former, more socially liberal Tory voters who are now apalled by the ‘pull us out of the ECHR’ mob. As long as the Tory party carries on on its present trajectory, those voters ain’t coming back.

which will give the Tories a different angle to attack Reform, perhaps by portraying them as Socialist Nationalists?

As opposed to national socialists? Good luck with that given that one of their main policies is completely privatising the NHS and forcing everyone to have private medical insurance in order to massively slash the taxes paid by the kind of people who fund the private company that is Reform. Not very socialist that, really.

I do agree with you on a few things though @inkster . Especially applicable to Badanoch is just how rabidly anti-immigrant some 2nd and 3rd generation children of immigrants are. Kemi only came here aged 16, didn’t she? They want that ladder pulled up behind themselves and will happily vote for that. The Tory party is full of them (Sunak, Patel, Braverman etc) and they represent a big chunk of voters. If labour assumes that the BAME voters are going to default to labour they should look across the Atlantic and see where that got the Democrats. Given the noises coming out of Starmer this week though, it looks like they’re not planning on making that mistake though. How genuine that is remains open to question.

No I don’t agreè with you binners, I never suggested she was rabidly anything.

She pitches herself as a right wing, big C, Conservative in the Thatcher mould, I would never describe her as a wet.

Still, I told you a while back she would win the Leadership and that happened didn t it?

Fair point about Reform, Farage would love to turn us into a mini Russia but at the moment he is just picking up the old BNP vote and the disaffected. They have no plan and will end up offering all things to all people in their efforts to expand, right –  left but never centre.

Yes, let’s not forget that she was never meant to be in that final ballot.

The only reason she was is because of Tory MP’s trying to be too clever and ‘lending’ their votes to candidates. Except they ****ed up and got their maths wrong. Hardly surprising given it was Grant Shapps who was organising it. It was all engineered to be a run off between Honest Bob and Jimmy Dimly. Kemi was never meant to have been anywhere near the final 2, because the membership would vote for her just like they voted for Truss, when the MPs wanted Rishi.

This is why she won’t be leader by the next election, because the MPs never wanted her in the first place, but ended up with her due to their own incompetence. Quite fitting really

Sounds familiar ?

Getting back to the original post, I hadn’t heard any Kneecap stuffuntil they played some on RadMac this morning (or I may have done and it’s not registered before now). Its really good!

Sounds familiar ?

Indeed. It seems both parties have now become the victim to the laws of unintended consequences when voting for leaders. Heres hoping the Tory’s latest electoral faux pas is as successful as the Corbyn wilderness years were for Labour. I suspect they won’t be, as they’re a lot more volatile and brutal when it comes to unseating their leaders. I can’t see them ever being daft enough to let someone lose two consecutive elections

The only reason she was is because of Tory MP’s trying to be too clever and ‘lending’ their votes to candidates. Except they ****ed up and got their maths wrong. Hardly surprising given it was Grant Shapps who was organising it. It was all engineered to be a run off between Honest Bob and Jimmy Dimly. Kemi was never meant to have been anywhere near the final 2, because the membership would vote for her just like they voted for Truss, when the MPs wanted Rishi.

Silly buggers didn’t realise how much of a different game it is with 120 MPs as opposed to 350…

Hilarious.

Getting back to the original post

How very dare you

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She’s the Tory Jeremy Corbyn

Heres hoping the Tory’s latest electoral faux pas is as successful as the Corbyn

Jeezus you really are obsessed with Corbyn aren’t you…… you can’t stop mentioning him. And the comparison is not anywhere as strong as you appear to believe it is.

For a start her MPs are not briefing the press against her and publicly attacking her or accusing her of being racist for being critical of the Israeli apartheid regime.

Kemi Badenoch appears to be enjoying considerable support from her MPs, they did after all select her to be one of two candidates to be put to party members. There won’t be any coordinated mass resignations from the shadow cabinet so whatever difficulties she might have to face they certainly won’t be that similar to Corbyn’s.

Edit : Btw since you appear to be determined to make a comparison with Corbyn the worse general election result Corbyn achieved was 32%. If Kemi Badenoch matches Corbyn’s worse general election result in 2029 she will probably end up prime minister.

Good god, considering how absolutely terrible Labour are turning out to be – it’s always good to bring up Corbyn and the Tories in every thread going.

The ones in power need all the criticism they can take so the ones not in power don’t get in next time.

Jeez.

Good god, considering how absolutely terrible Labour are turning out to be – it’s always good to bring up Corbyn and the Tories in every thread going to deflect from the abomination that is the current government.

The ones in power need all the criticism they can take so the ones not in power don’t get in next time.

Jeez.

I dislike her because she seems like an utterly vile human being, with no redeeming features whatsoever. She makes Suella Braverman look like a well-rounded and moderate centrist

That’s because this year’s Tories are next years centrists.  Labour were bragging on how well they’ve done kicking folk out of the country recently on one of their shite banners

Yep that’s how it works.