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    Superficial
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    The downside [of ezetimibe and bemoedoic acid], I believe, is the cost of these compared to standard statins.

    Not really, it’s the lack of clinical evidence for outcome benefit. We know these agents reduce cholesterol, and we know lower cholesterol is associated with fewer CV events. But we have only limited evidence that they might help reduce events. Statins on the other hand and extremely well researched and do reduce CV events. They also reduce cardiovascular events to a greater extent than would be expected by their cholesterol lowering effect – I.e. we think there are additional (anti-inflammatory?) effects.

    To put that in context, it’s crystal clear that there are significant benefits post-stroke in people who have elevated HDL cholesterol or other factors pointing to artery disease

    OP’s comments suggest to me blood cholesterol markers were/are normal, so it’s slightly less clear whether he would personally see those benefits.

    NB If you’re looking at cardiac disease this would be almost completely backwards. Statins reduce events almost irrespective of starting cholesterol, and the benefit is much greater in patients who have had CV events (even with low cholesterol) than patients who are well with high cholesterol. That’s why your GP doesn’t prescribe statins based only on cholesterol levels, it takes into account your other cardiovascular risk factors.

    The statin side effect thing is a big concern for the public health of the country. The vast majority of ‘statin side effects’ are not reproducible in placebo (or ‘nocebo’) studies. Take from that what you will – but this is where your GP’s skepticism of your side effects comes from.

    natrix
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    @brennak

    10mg of Ezetemebe

    Ezetembe is one of the ones I’ve tried, both on its own and in conjunction with a regular statin.  It sent my gamma GT readings through the roof (normal is 0-30, mine was over 700), so I had to stop it. My consultant is having one last try before referring me on to somebody more specialised.

    @STR

    I do worry about crashing the bike more now

    Do you have your INR monitored? Mine is 2.5 so if I get a cut it will bleed for 2.5 times what it would if I wasn’t on the anti-coagulants (e.g. 12.5 minutes instead of 5 minutes). So not such a big deal apart from bleeds on the brain, so I always wear a helmet.  I’ve heard of some folk who struggle to control it and end up with an INR in the double digits, obviously more of an issue.

    Do you have your INR monitored? Mine is 2.5 so if I get a cut it will bleed for 2.5 times what it would if I wasn’t on the anti-coagulants (e.g. 12.5 minutes instead of 5 minutes)

    No, not monitored.

    I do now bleed a lot from the tiniest of scratches

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    StirlingCrispin
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    Do you have your INR monitored? Mine is 2.5 .

    Beginner – my target range is 2.5 to 4.

    I now wear crash pants with thigh protectors when out on the bike as I’ve had a couple of haematomas from crashes.

    A week in hospital plugged into an iv drip while being monitored for compartment syndrome is one way of dodging a visit from the in-laws. Not so much fun on Xmas day though. Screamingly sore too.

    Crash pants -> https://www.leisurelakesbikes.com/clothing/shorts/endura-mt500-protector-undershorts-ii-black__312639?currency=GBP&chosenAttribute=E8093BK/7&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAl4a6BhBqEiwAqvrquk8Zxho2V6uHfx181vEcN9OXS6DrsETalw45gFUNtKadinL7q50_URoCQgoQAvD_BwE

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