MDMA – to treat depression?

Ah yes, the Que Club, that was a hell of a venue. All kinds of odd rooms and corridors, very confusing when you perhaps weren’t as aware as you could be!

Did anyone else attend the legendary Sundissential? Or Storm at The Emporium in Coalville?

Yeah it does but what is more readily available, alcohol or illegal drugs and which is the most consumed?

Really depends in what world you move. I assume for many all are “freely” available in the sense they could consume whatever they choose.
I used to drug education the facts are that alcohol is a related factor in most violence and drugs are[generally] not. Breaking it down per thousand user shows this as well- it is not just because more folk drink it really does make [some] folk more likely to be violent.
I am not saying rugs are risk free or ace and they do have risks. Fighting/violence is generally not one of them though.

You’re doing it did it wrong.

Hmm, a touch prescriptive there – individual experience being a very subjective thing and all of that. To quote the Mighty Boosh: “You ever drank Baileys from a shoe?”

Do any of the straight ravers ever get reduced to a wide eyed shivering blissed out wreck when they hear the old tunes..?

What do you think? Final Frontier by Underground Resistance still pretty much reduces me to tears (the best techno is like the best disco – there’s a kind of innate melancholy). And old jungle records from circa 93/94 (the golden age of clattering breaks, sub-bass and colliding samples, imo) still hit me with asmuch force as any soul tune. I’ve spent countless nights dancing all night loooong with nowt chemical done my neck – I’m not moralising, I just like music.

I’m not disputing the effect E had on clubbing or music producers, nor the social ramifications (the pacification of football terraces), but IME there was also a hell of a lot of twattery involved – dullards droning on & on about their intake. And having been romantically involved with somebody at that time, the emotional downside could be grim.

IME there was also a hell of a lot of twattery involved – dullards droning on & on about their intake.

indeed there was

EDIT: no need for the negative vibes, maaan.
🙂

there still is

There’s probably a rave equivalent of CAMRA these days. 😀

but IME there was also a hell of a lot of twattery involved – dullards droning on & on about their intake

indeed, but does it remind you of anything? What tyres for this, tubeless for that, what rigid forks etc etc, myself included 😉

Dear god!! I’ve never made that connection before. It all makes perfect sense now!

All a bit….

I did try a night at the Que once without any ‘assistance’.

Overrated experience, was knackered by about 4am when the bar was closed and my beer stash had ran dry.

Still loved the music though and still do even though I haven’t had a pill for about 7 years. I don’t listen to much new stuff but it’s great to have the odd night going back over my old tunes.

And yeah I guess it did make me a better person.

What tyres for this

‘wholly or predominantly characterised by the emission of a succession of repetitive beats threads’ 😉

Really depends in what world you move. I assume for many all are “freely” available in the sense they could consume whatever they choose.

Well I’m speaking of someone who sees both and I say alcohol is much more available, I’ve heard even shops sell it now.

Ah, dullards. They’re in every community. The tent next door at my last music festival was full of 18 year olds who had nothing to talk about except how much they’d had / were going to have.
These days it’s all promoters, promises and dirty looks. Ketamine simply destroys the vibe of both the venue and the after parties.

IME there was also a hell of a lot of twattery involved – dullards droning on & on about their intake.

Did you never get to hang out with the cool kids then?

Did you never get to hang out with the cool kids then?

Imagine if Napoleon Dynamite made a cameo appearance in Dazed and Confused, and you’d get a pretty good idea of my social standing.

Universally rejected. 8)

Haze – Member
I wasn’t so much into H.O.G. (Went to a few at the Dance Factory / Subway City & The Que) although I do remember a spectacular NYE one at the Institute!

Was that one with Neil Landstrumm doing a live set and Paul Damage seeing in the New Year, that was a good un!

Overrated experience, was knackered by about 4am when the bar was closed and my beer stash had ran dry.

Last time I tried this at a festival last year my knees and back were aching like a b*stard and I was knackered after an hour (in my defence I had been standing up all day). In the end I blagged half a pill off a couple I got chatting to and I lasted another 4 hours! I reckon in my current state of middle-aged physical deterioration I need ‘assistance’ more than ever at this type of thing.

Universally rejected

I feel bad for you. No really I do 😉

TurnerGuy – Member

Detroit techno, chicago house, NY garage was definitely not produced with these drugs in mind, if you think so then that is proof of the aftereffects of the drug.

A few snippets from the web:

In the mid- to late-1970s disco club scene, there was a thriving drug subculture, particularly for drugs that would enhance the experience of dancing to the loud dance music and the flashing lights on the dancefloor, such as cocaine [4] (nicknamed “blow”), amyl nitrite “poppers”,[5] and the “…other quintessential 1970s club drug Quaalude, which suspended motor coordination and turned one’s arms and legs to Jell-O.”[6] According to Peter Braunstein, “[m]assive quantities of drugs [were] ingested in discothèques”.

In the early 1980s in the U.S., MDMA rose to prominence as “Adam”

Drugs have long been associated with music scenes and dance/club/house/techno/garage/whatever is no different, the drugs didnt appear in 1988/89…they were present long before that, right at the genesis of the scene so to speak.

the drugs didnt appear in 1988/89…they were present long before that

doesn’t change the fact that between ’88 and ’94, only 7 people in the western world between the ages of 16 and 28 didn’t try Ecstasy, and they were, and still are, joyless virgins..

pretty remarkable really

Re-wind selector– play me fe de tune again- riddim step forward -BooM

TuckerUK sounds like a moron to me… (somewhere around post 4 on this thread)

Agreed

Oh christ, where’d he get that motto from… Begby?

Probably to late but tops 5 – I used to them nights in Barrow in Edisons basement, great nights 8) .listening to gripper, ahhhhh, happy, hazey days 8)

In true stw fashion i’ve not watched the programme (never owned a tv) and i’ve not read through this thread either but i will comment on MDMA, something i have vast experience of, whether that be for the good or detriment to myself as a person throughout the past 20 years

I first tried it back in 1992 at a party in a friends house in Camden, a total mind-fcuck shock of an experience for me as i was an entirely drug free 21yr old from the countryside of Galloway who had spent the last 11yrs of my life since the age of 10 dedicated to racing motocross with the expected discipline that that entails but the initial time i took it i had drunk an extortionate amount of tequila, With regard to the MDMA consumption i’m not entirely sure or whether or not i can remember if i enjoyed it or not but i didn’t experiment with it again till i returned back down to Camden in 1994 and ended up at the same friends warehouse DJ after party in Pratt St, Camden, at the time a certain Jarvis Cocker rented space above his warehouse and i ended up hiding against his access door slurring my words and with an obvious “hick from the sticks” attitude or look about me so to speak. Jarvis or rather his gf “annie” at the time took pity on me and invited me in to his loft to chill out as all i remember was taking a small amount of powder in the Camden Palace with a few drinks hours previously and the rest of the night was a blur of emotion, colour, sound etc. It sounds so strange to be talking about it now but the emotion and colour of jarvis’s loft seemed to pass in waves round the vast space and to bounce off the bare brick walls and wooden ceiling, i found i had an uncontrollable urge to hug complete strangers which coming from my rural Galloway/Argyllshiire upbringing was a totally alien concept to handle but thankfully everyone else was quite happy. I found it rather unnerving and unsettling after a while to be perfectly honest which i why i found myself slumped against Jarvis’s front door as i couldn’t work his 3 lock system, i must have been sitting there for a good hour at least before his gf at the time found me and she and jarvis dragged me me through to their bedroom and jarvis asked me if it was my first time trying ecstasy?, me being me tried to bluff my way out of it but i burst out greeting for some reason and annie hugged me for ages n ages and something seemed to change inside me, i dunno what it was or if it was drug induced (pretty sure that had a part to play) or whatever but i had been greeting for what seemed like hours and all of a sudden i felt fantastic, better than fantastic in fact, i had never felt like this before in my life and as i looked up into annies eyes she beemed back with the sort of smile that seemed to say ” I know, dont think ….just enjoy it” and i knew it was going to be the most fantastic night of my life from that point on in fact, i think she saw i was having a hard time dealing with what was going on (hick from the sticks remember and my first real big night out in the city wi drugs) Anyway…… being a delicate soul that i was i had no idea who jarvis was at the time and eventually as the night progressed i settled into the experience and found myself warming to the sparse surroundings and atmosphere along with the company and annie was genuinely the most unbelievable gorgeous person i’d ever met but so not in a sexual way if that makes any sense, she kept repeating “you’re weird but cool” over and over, i was introduced to everyone as “this is kenny – he’s weird but pretty cool” , to this i could not speak nor communicate verbally but i could nod vigoursly which seemed to go down well enough with the crowd that was there,the night was a true mind opener to so called evil drug abuse as put forward by the government or my parents at the time, whether my preconceived beliefs regarding drugs were shattered beyond recognition because of this direct experience or subsequent experiences or experimentations i’ll never know but i can honestly say i feel i am a far better person for experiencing MDMA, at a conservative estimate i’d say i have had at least 300 doses of 100mg or greater of mdma since 1994 , some years i have had none whatsoever, other years i have had more than my fair share and hammered the arse out of it but i feel that is my choice as an adult and whilst i have been prosecuted through the courts for my personal consumption i feel that it is my choice to decide what i choose to imbibe into my own body, just don’t get me started on Psilocybin…Hmmmmm….. Yumm!, shame it has been a shite season for shrooms.

i found myself slumped against Jarvis’s front door as i couldn’t work his 3 lock system

😀

Great anecdote, somafunk.

Good old Jarvis. I’m not a huge Pulp fan, but he rules.

I really enjoyed reading that soma 🙂

I’m feeling a bit depressed at the moment, and Nina Kraviz is playing at Subby tonight, might have to self prescribe treatment 🙂

100mg? That’s a pretty small dosage…. unless it’s a weaker strength these days.

Used to drop 1 or 2g bombs…

And the hugging thing was probably quite a bit to do with the drugs – lost count the amount of people I’ve befriended (and consequently hugged) at raves… ha ha

Used to drop 1 or 2g bombs…

really..!!!? why..?

That’s quite a hefty tolerance you’ve got there.. or a love of vomiting

I’ve seen plenty people doing stupid amounts like that but I’m not sure what the point of it is.. An eighth or even a sixteenth of a gram of pure crystal MDMA is a fair dose, although I’ve not been above doing a sick and greedy half gram line myself in the past.. 😳

shame it has been a shite season for shrooms.

is that down to the weather d’ya reckon..? Or greedy sheep trying to blot it all out..?

Tolerance was pretty high – on it twice a week for quite a few years does that to you….

Didn’t start off with bombs mind….

the thought of coming up on that is making me feel quite sick..