[Closed] Incredible iPhone queues

Sits and waits for some comedy replies ...

I'm going to hold off for a bit. I'm with three who haven't released their tariffs yet so I'm going to leave it a month and see how the land lies once the fuss dies down. I will be getting one though...

http://gizmodo.com/5571171/iphone-4-loses-reception-when-you-hold-it-by-the-antenna-band

would worry me a bit about the iPhone4 - looks like you might *need* a case, which would annoy me.

Hmmm....shouldn't Surf-Mat or CFH be posting some hilarious pictures/comments by now?

I am disappointed.

No problem with early adopters, infact its great to iron out the little bugs.

BUT

people queuing to get one to then rush onto a forum to bleat about it... deary me.. 🙄

I'm not bleating. Just passing the time.

This phone is hardly ground breaking like the original Iphone, did you take a day off for this?

A big worry if it drops signal when you pick it up! no wonder apple are "recommending" a bumper

This phone is hardly ground breaking like the original Iphone

I'll get one sometime soon when the fuss has died down. Bizarrely I can buy one for less than the 02 trade-in I can get on my 3GS.

I've got a iPhone 3GS which is a good toy and a crap phone. Sounds like Apple are trying to sort the latter out with the 4G so I'll be happy to upgrade to one at some point, however queuing to be one of the first to get one is for saddo geeks IMHO.

" I can buy one for less than the 02 trade-in I can get on my 3GS."

Really? Are you accounting for the £20 a month "iphone tax" you pay on the iPhone contracts?

E.g. the service I currently pay £10 a month for is £30 p/m on an iphone contract (and actually less data, but ignoring that).

mastiles_fanylion - Member
This phone is hardly ground breaking like the original Iphone

Perhaps not but it has left the competition in its wake with its new features.

I'll get one sometime soon when the fuss has died down. Bizarrely I can buy one for less than the 02 trade-in I can get on my 3GS.

What has that got to do with queuing up?

i hear its got a flash and a 5mp camera?

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oooooOOOOOooo!!

What has that got to do with queuing up?

pointless

What do these good new features do? Do they improve your quality of life?

Yes - they will make me complete. You must get one too.

😐

What do these good new features do? Do they improve your quality of life?

Doesn't matter if they do or not. we like things, we buy them, no need to come over all high and mighty about it. do 140mm bolt through forks improve your quality of life? do big TVs? do alloy wheels on cars?

And I'm so bored I've chosen to set myself up for the usual STW abuse...

we like things, we buy them and our brains are made of plasticine which is putty in the hands of steve jobs

we like things, we buy them and our brains are made of plasticine which is putty in the hands of steve jobs

Not strictly true I'm afraid. Never had an iPhone, only interested in this one because it has features (HD video for one) that I'm interested in. But after reports of calls dropping etc, I may stick with my original choice of an HTC.

My mate in the States has one. His comment was "glitchfest"

I can't believe the hype of new apple products, even when its just rehashing old technology. I respect the business strategy of targeting stupid people though, it clearly works 🙂

I respect the business strategy of targeting stupid people though, it clearly works

I was going to bite on this. But I did a bit of 'research'

Paris Hilton
Jessica Simpson

both use Macs 😀

/thread 😆

Top geeking here

[url= http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone-4-Teardown/3130/1 ]iPhone 4 Teardown [/url]

Bear in mind that most reports will be coming from the States, where the iPhone has always been absolutely crippled by the AT&T network which apparently has terrible coverage, poor speed and regularly drops calls.
They only recently got MMS there and still don't have tethering AFAIK.

That's been cited as one of the main reasons that Android has overtaken iPhone in the States, but had slower growth in the rest of the world.

It's also the main reason they put a huge BFO aerial in the 4G.

In the UK I generally get pretty good coverage on O2 and I wouldn't say I get more dropped calls than any other phone I've owned. Though I will admit that sound quality can be a little but crap at times, especially if you keep moving the mic away from your mouth like I do.

I've got a iPhone 3GS which is a good toy and a crap phone

Can soneone explain WHY this is to me? I have a 3G. It stores my contacts. I can text easily. I can make calls. It has a speaker. Why is that crap?

davidtaylforth - Member

Well just got home with mine... Will wait and see just how much better it is than my old 3G, but early signs are promising anyway...

Well just got home with mine...

did you pick up a box of kleenex* on the way home too?

*obviously to clean the screen... 😀

Well just got home with mine...early signs are promising

Im not suprised, your no longer stuck in a queue at an apple shop with a load of brain washed zombies

Super Scale 20 - Member

Perhaps not but it has left the competition in its wake with its new features.

New features? What new features are there that haven't already been done before? Anyone would swear that Apple invented Folders, Video Calling and Multitasking (which is still doesn't do properly in the eyes of some).

HD Video recording? Been done.
5MP Camera with Flash? Been done for YEARS!

I'll give you the screen, but they're not going to be leading the way with that for long in all honesty...

And you might want to look at this and listen out for future incidents of the same problem before you hand over your cash.
[url] http://www.itproportal.com/portal/news/article/2010/6/24/apple-iphone-4-hit-display-problems/ [/url]

PeterPoddy - Member
I've got a iPhone 3GS which is a good toy and a crap phone
Can soneone explain WHY this is to me? I have a 3G. It stores my contacts. I can text easily. I can make calls. It has a speaker. Why is that crap?

poor call sound quality, poor reception. Not that it's a major issue. Being a phone is a secondary function for mine.

Posted from my iPhone 3gs 😉

[quote> http://gizmodo.com/5571171/iphone-4-loses-reception-when-you-hold-it-by-the-antenna-band

would worry me a bit about the iPhone4 - looks like you might *need* a case, which would annoy me.

Ouch. Sounds like all their testers had cases (not surprising when you're hanging around in public with the worlds most exciting tech secret in your pocket!).

It perhaps suggests that they have gone too far on the making it super thing / small, so much that they've had to put important electrical bits on the outside of the phone, meaning you need a case, making it as a whole bigger than previous phones. Doh.

[quote> http://gizmodo.com/5571171/iphone-4-loses-reception-when-you-hold-it-by-the-antenna-band

would worry me a bit about the iPhone4 - looks like you might *need* a case, which would annoy me.

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😀

on the ****s with macs front

i see that the guy out of ndubz has a nice new stumpjumper for cruising roaund his estate

Serious Question, why is the new iphone so much better? I can't see that it does anything more than a HTC Desire but just costs more money and doesnt do Flash ?

Serious Question, why is the new iphone so much better? I can't see that it does anything more than a HTC Desire but just costs more money and doesnt do Flash ?

oooo flippin heck. you've done it now...

FunkyDunc - Member
Serious Question, why is the new iphone so much better? I can't see that it does anything more than a HTC Desire but just costs more money and doesnt do Flash?

+1

And yes, people will argue that Flash is dying on it's arse.... Fact of the matter is, it's still used on a HUGE proportion of websites so no flash = limited browsing content.

The reception problems, coupled with the display problems are more than enough reason for me to hold off buying one, especially seeing as I'd be getting one SIM Free.... Think I'll give it a month or so for Apple to sort the glitches out before parting with the hard earned..

this thread really only ever going to go one way wasn't it?

i must remark that i have yet to visit a site where functionality is impaired due to lack of flash capability on my phone

Never visited the BBC website then, or any site with video content?

I was watching the tennis live on the bbc website last night while on the train for example, using my phone with flash.

On the way home tonight I may watch some Brass Eye on SeeSaw.com 😆

Ok, put the Flash issue aside - what else does the iPhone do that truly sets it apart from other smartphones? Why is it worth the extra money when, for £200 less, you could have an HTC desire which is equally as good (no HD video recording but it's hardly a deal-breaker).

Never visited the BBC website then, or any site with video content?

Granted I can't watch the media from the BBC site, but I CAN watch it via [url= http://www.tvcatchup.com/ ]TVCatchup[/url] where I can also watch ITV (1, 2, 3 & 4), Channel 4, Fiver, E4, More4, Dave, Film 4, Sky News and even QVC should I want to.

Serious Question, why is the new iphone so much better? I can't see that it does anything more than a HTC Desire but just costs more money and doesnt do Flash ?

Well, don't know enough to make a detailed list, but for a start it syncs with iTunes, so it updates all apps, it has access to more of those apps which are 'vetted' and hence more likely to run properly, and it doesn't do Flash.

Granted I can't watch the media from the BBC site

Can't you use the iPlayer app? Seems like its just some content that the Beeb have been slow to convert to a format suitable for mobile devices. They were also slow to provide Mac support for iPlayer, so maybe they will get up to date eventually.

Thing is, i think the the iphone did "up the game", with respect to the UI, but when i hear things such as "left the competition in its wake with its new features.", my initial response is "So you got suckered in by the hype then".

Most phones have been able to video call over the mobile network for years, how is the iphone abilty to only video call over wifi to other iphones ahead of the competion?

The other specs of the phone are'nt all that either, 5mp camera? About 4 years behind. HD recording, been done.

Basically the iphone sells on its ease of use and the hype generated from its marketing.

My father in law has a 3GS from work, he loves it. The reception on it is so poor he rarely gets called out of hours. In that respect it has changed his life since he is no longer contactable outside office hours, which hes very happy about.

there's just one important [url= http://www.youtube.com/user/Blendtec#p/a/u/0/06O5rejU3ZU ]question[/url]

Can't you use the iPlayer app?

Ok, put the Flash issue aside - what else does the iPhone do that truly sets it apart from other smartphones? Why is it worth the extra money when, for £200 less, you could have an HTC desire which is equally as good (no HD video recording but it's hardly a deal-breaker).

For £200 less?

Seriously, why didn't somebody say that the phone companies were trying to PAY ME to take a phone away before I handed over a paltry sum for my iPhone 4? 😉

I think for me, like probably most iPhone fans, it's not about things like a 5MP camera, HD video recording, lack of Flash etc... It's about having the most user friendly, intuitive, easy to use device on the market. It's also why Apple still manage to sell quite a lot of computers even to this day, as their hardware is over priced when you look at it purely in terms of spec for your money, it's more about the OS though and what it allows you to do in that respect.

I like my 3GS. That's about it though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_distortion_field

what mboy said.

For example, I took my new toy home, plugged it into itunes and ten minutes later it has everything on it that my old one did - including every text I have sent or received. No hassle, no needing to work things out or ring someone up. No need to read a manual - everything is intuitive, including all the new features. I've owned windows mobile smart phones and a bunch of symbian ones, and for me switching to an iphone from them was like switching from DOS to Windows (for any of you old enough to remember that). I'm not a geek; I just like nice things that are well made and work properly.

So does it copy over all the apps too?

bol - Member
what mboy said.
I just like nice things that are well made and work properly.

Hmmmmmmmm - I'd have to take issue with the 'well made' and 'work properly' part, on the following basis:

[url] http://www.itproportal.com/portal/news/article/2010/6/24/apple-iphone-4-hit-display-problems/ [/url]
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[url] http://www.t3.com/news/iphone-4-suffers-setback-as-early-problems-arise?=46603 [/url]
[url] http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/23/poll-is-your-iphone-4-retina-display-seeing-yellow-spots/ [/url]
[url] http://mashable.com/2010/06/23/iphone-yellow-screen-tint/ [/url]
[url] http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2010/06/24/iphone-4-issues-reported/1 [/url]
[url] http://trunc.it/92z2n [/url]

You probably won't like the iPhone 4 (or at least the first batch) then....

Most of the second shipment of iPhones will be bloody warranty replacements for the first lot.

There is an old theory that says people will join a queue even if they don't know what they are lining up for

Not sure what one of these does and certainly don't want or need it then
If its like an ipod no doubt there will be long queues to return the faulty ones

My mobile phone company keep giving me 100 quid a year to stay with them on a contract phone that the bill never gets above 9 quid a month
Why would I want to change, only there for urgent or emergency use and its essentially free.

FWIW I transfer my stuff from old Nokia to new Nokia perfectly each time.

There is an old theory that says people will join a queue even if they don't know what they are lining up for

LOL, there were a good few people that came up to those of us queuing today to ask what the queue was for, and should they join! Hahaha

molgrips - Member
FWIW I transfer my stuff from old Nokia to new Nokia perfectly each time.

Yep - same with me on my Nokia, HTC, or any other phone I've had for that matter. The fact that the iPhone4 syncs up easier pales into insignificance when you look at the issues that have surfaced on DAY 1 of it's release.... This isn't after a week, or a month, it's after A DAY!

I wouldn't really give two s**ts if my iPhone synced up easily if it dropped phonecalls every time I used my left hand to hold it, or yellow marks appeared on the screen after minutes of use!

There were twenty people in front of me this morning when I picked mine up. Don't know about the so-called Apple Tax on contracts, the one I've got is exactly the same amount per month as I was paying for a crappy N95, with far, far better usability. The point many are missing about Apple is not that they're doing something no-one else has done, but that it's a more integrated design. An Android phone is just some generic smartphone with one flavour of Android stuffed inside. There's no oversight of the apps, and a recent report says 1in 5 apps allows personal info to be accessed by outsiders.

http://tech.uk.msn.com/news/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=153901024

" the one I've got is exactly the same amount per month as I was paying for a crappy N95"

Then you were paying too much for the N95. I think a lot of people pay a lot more than they need to for their phones.

(BTW i'm not anti-apple/iPhones, just a pet hate is folk that think the iphone is "cheap" by any stretch of the word. It's a £500 or £600 phone, whichever way you cut it, you're paying that for it).

What bugs me is that I actually need a phone because I no longer have my work one - yet I can't get an iPhone 4 because hordes of people who already have a perfectly serviceable phone have just had to upgrade because otherwise their life would be incomplete, and thus there are none left!

Mastiles - yes, apps too.

Zaskar - well, at least if it breaks you can just pop into your local Apple store and they'll hand you a new one. I guess when you ship the best part of a million products in one day you're going to have a few that fall over. A 1% failure rate is going to be reported as if it's most of them if that equates to 10,000 units.

Anyway, I'm happy with mine. The bigger concern for me, if I think about it, is that I was actually rather happy with the old one too. I, like a lot of people on here I would guess, have the same problem with bikes.

Anyone would swear that Apple invented Folders,
Video Calling and Multitasking (which is still doesn't do properly in the eyes of some).

Agreed and that irks me too. But that's marketting for ya.

However if you look at the details you'll see that they have, as always, put a bit of a unique Appley spin on each of those existing ideas (which you may or may not consider to be a good thing).

Ahh cool - when I get around to getting one (after the rush) it will be dead easy to swap over then.

🙂

It irritates me that they make out that some of their ideas are fantastically original when in fact they are just improvements of ideas that have been around for years.

Quite funny that a HD camera is meant to be a selling point, since it's still going to be a piss-poor excuse for a camera as it's in a phone 😆

From an Ecodesign point of view, when you look back at the evolution of consumer tech, it's amazing that so many people buy things that go obsolete so quickly.

It could be argued that you shouldn't even mass produce the early generations - they obviously aren't ready 😉

Then you were paying too much for the N95. I think a lot of people pay a lot more than they need to for their phones.

(BTW i'm not anti-apple/iPhones, just a pet hate is folk that think the iphone is "cheap" by any stretch of the word. It's a £500 or £600 phone, whichever way you cut it, you're paying that for it).

To be fair to Apple, the N95 was a £700 phone when it came out, the HTC Desire is a £400 phone. None of the fancy smartphones are cheap.

Joe

I know - I wasn't saying they are. But they are nearly all available cheaper than iphones, even when they're fairly new.

And equally most other phones don't attract the premium when sold on. Original 3G (not the 3GS) iPhones still sell for around £200 second hand whereas the N95 only gets around £100...

sorted. just off the phone to O2 retentions and got a 16gb Iphone4 in the post.

And equally most other phones don't attract the premium when sold on. Original 3G (not the 3GS) iPhones still sell for around £200 second hand whereas the N95 only gets around £100...

As long as you're ok with it dropping calls when you pick it up...

A Ha ha aha hah aha ahahahahahahahahahahahahahhah, etc.

Oh, and the screen going yellow....

A Ha ha aha hah aha ahahahahahahahahahahahahahhah, etc.

I believe the common people would suggest that Apple have been owned, or pwned, or just made to look a bit silly.

Beta testing, gotta love it!

crikey: do you honestly believe that Apple let a new phone design get to market without once testing to make sure it could recieve calls??

And folk call the fanbois gullible!

I'd be very surprised if this "dropping calls when you touch it" thing proves to be anything more than either a few bad builds out of the millions created, random internet bollocks, or even just random FUD created by other manufacturers.

Graham, put iPhone 4 problems into google, then tell me its FUD

Apparently, they did the majority of testing in a 3G case for secrecy...
Not that it will be a problem in the long run, after all, they are for showing to others rather than using, right?
LOL...