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  • How to View Web Page History/Revisions
  • grantyboy
    Free Member

    Help!

    I’m taking a product manufacturer to small claims as their product is defective and damaged my property as a result .  They have now added a ‘clause’ to try and protect themselves to their webpage for this product, it’s just been added in the past few days and it’s obviously in relation to my pending claim.

    How can I use google to view the web page as it was as month or so back to prove they have just added this clause.  The guy is trying every trick to get out of it

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    johndoh
    Free Member

    Wayback Machine may help you

    MoreCashThanDash
    Full Member

    We use that Wayback site at work to check stuff.

    grantyboy
    Free Member

    thanks, it’s captured the heading pages but not the next level down into product descriptions which is annoying.  Any other tools?

    johndoh
    Free Member

    thanks, it’s captured the heading pages but not the next level down into product descriptions which is annoying.  Any other tools?

    Check another date – it doesn’t always collect all the data. Post up a link and I’ll take a look for you.

    grantyboy
    Free Member

    https://www.djbags.co.uk/product-page/dj-speaker-bag-by-mid8-compatible-with-rcf-evox-j8-speakers

    that’s the page, the *shoulder strap bit at the bottom is new (because it broke for me a wrote off a very expensive speaker)

    Ideally I want a version of the page pre November  as that’s when it all kicked off

    kelvin
    Full Member

    That’s a pretty dumb attempt at a disclaimer… “do not carry using the carry strap provided” is worthless.

    kelvin
    Full Member

    Domain looks to be only a year old, and low traffic, that’s probably why the archive’s spider hasn’t been up to much.

    johndoh
    Free Member

    Hmmm, there only appears to be one snapshot (June 16 2024) and that isn’t loading. 🙁

    grantyboy
    Free Member

    thanks, yes its a new company setup earlier this year.  Its a very bespoke product for DJ’s hence very low traffic

    johndoh
    Free Member

    That’s a pretty dumb attempt at a disclaimer… “do not carry using the carry strap provided” is worthless.

    This is very true – why have a shoulder strap if you shouldn’t use the shoulder strap alone?

    sharkbait
    Free Member

    Take a screenshot of the web page, remove the disclaimer and save it as a PDF as ‘evidence’.  The only way for them to prove it’s fake is to produce the earlier version…. which won’t have the disclaimer. 😉

    grantyboy
    Free Member

    dirty tactic but an option.  Is there anyway I can pull my own internet history/cache to see this page through Chrome?

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    johndoh
    Free Member

    Is there anyway I can pull my own internet history/cache to see this page through Chrome?

    No, because it only caches the URL, not the content.

    GlennQuagmire
    Free Member

    It would be very easy to use dev tools in Chrome to remove that bit of text.  And then take a screenshot.

    Email the guy saying you took a screenshot of the page after purchasing for your own records.

    For him to deny the disclaimer was added at later date would be a lie which I doubt he would want to do in court.

    Granted, you’d be bending the truth a little also 😉

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    poly
    Free Member

    Take a screenshot of the web page, remove the disclaimer and save it as a PDF as ‘evidence’.  The only way for them to prove it’s fake is to produce the earlier version…. which won’t have the disclaimer. ?

    Misleading the court intentionally is likely to end badly.   Far better to simply state the facts as you understand them to the court – this content was added after your complaint (lesson here – grab a copy before you complain!), the court can if they believe it is material insist that they provide disclosure of the version at the time.

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    Cougar2
    Free Member

    The more I think about this, the more I think it’s a misdirection.

    You’ve got the bag, presumably it came with some form of instruction leaflet? You can’t buy a postage stamp these days without it coming with a phone book’s worth of care instructions in a hundred languages. What’s it say in there?

    Surely the answer to “it says on the website…” is “so what?”

    Cougar2
    Free Member

    … and in any case,

    CRA states that goods have to be fit for purpose. A carrying handle which cannot be used as a carrying handle clearly falls foul of this, and you cannot disclaimer away statutory rights.

    Cougar2
    Free Member

    the court can if they believe it is material insist that they provide disclosure of the version at the time.

    The web server should have edit logs showing if a file has changed. It’ll be date-stamped at the OS level too.

    multi21
    Free Member

    Cougar2

    Free Member
    the court can if they believe it is material insist that they provide disclosure of the version at the time.
    The web server should have edit logs showing if a file has changed. It’ll be date-stamped at the OS level too.

    It looks like a Wix site, so the edit history for a given page can be retrieved through that (if court ordered).

    GlennQuagmire
    Free Member

    Indeed, surely the straps are used to carry the damn thing.  Why have a shoulder strap at all, then.

    carry it like a baking tray, or perhaps you prefer the shoulder strap or padded top handles – the choice is yours!

    Well, clearly the choice isn’t yours, then.

    GlennQuagmire
    Free Member

    No, because it only caches the URL, not the content.

    Not strictly true, some content may be cached plus images, etc.

    There are tools to view the cache in Chrome – and then you can open these files in Chrome to inspect.

    Google ChromeCacheView

    Disclaimer – proceed with caution, I cannot vouch for this software in any way.

    johndoh
    Free Member

    For him to deny the disclaimer was added at later date would be a lie which I doubt he would want to do in court.

    Although that bit of text may have been there all along – the OP may have only noticed it when going back to look after having their claim dismissed.

    Not strictly true, some content may be cached plus images, etc.

    Yes, true, I wasn’t entirely clear in what I said – images may be cached, but the on-page text wouldn’t be (at least not as far as I understand how it works).

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