Hope brake fanbois, you won’t want these

Anyone after a set in a hurry, leisurelakesbikes.com have them in stock.

I think I’ll wait.Currently it appears they’re only available as a complete brake unit, rather than being able to get the levers separate. Ive a new pair of V4’s meant for the Ebike, so I can replace just the Tech3 levers for these new levers. Far as i can tell the caliper is likely to be the same model as lest gen’.

The Tech3 levers i have are also new, which should upon flogging them offset most of the cost.

I think the only change for the caliper (apart from the graphics) is the hybrid pistons which I’d expect to be fully swappable with the old v4’s.

What are ‘Hybrid pistons’ I’ve missed out on info somewhere.

It’s ok. found the info –

“Both 4 piston calipers have been updated and utilise hybrid style stainless steel pistons with a phenolic insert. This allows for smoother movement and less maintenance, while still being able to manage high temperatures without heat transfer during extreme use.”

Aye so basically the old stainless pistons with a phenolic insert.

Makes me wonder how hard it would be to make a home brew for an old Enduro 4 for example?

These fellas:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CbpSGCMt1qf/

I’d upgrade, but I damn ear lost my mind trying to get pistons out of and into an E4 caliper last time I did a service, it’s a nightmare if one of the inside pistons is sticky

Nice ^

I’ve taken a tiny chunk out of one of my rear pistons when pushing them back in/centering the pads so these will solve that issue.

Should be more slipperyer too.

I took a tiny chunk out of a caliper trying to unstick a seized piston.

new caliper body was needed

Pick a brake brand

be a dick about it.

You say that but then Formula users seem lovely, they never rubbish anyone else’s brakes, if you ask them about their own brakes they’re effusive about how great they are but don’t seem to go off on un-warranted rants about Shimano or Hope or Magura…

I might just get some Formulas see if I become less of a dick.

I had a rental (broke my own) bike in Italy one year, and the formulas on it were so unbelievably wooden and awful that I swore off them for life.

Curas changed me, have 4-pots on one bike, 2 on the other, and really like them

The last time Hope used a 2 piece piston was on the mini, and due to them having play between the alloy and the steel core they squealed like pigs. I hope this isnt going to be a repeat of history.

They discontinued the 2 piece mini piston in favour of one piece due to this issue(I think). Odd they’ve gone back to it.

I thought the Mini ones were ali (boiled easily) then became stainless, but maybe they became composite. I am not sure composite what though, ali/stainless?

I think the only change for the caliper (apart from the graphics) is the hybrid pistons which I’d expect to be fully swappable with the old v4’s.

How much is actually different about the calliper bodies is a diffent matter, but they’ve definitely changed the look slightly having seen them IRL.

anyone know if you can get the tech 4 levers standalone as yet, managed to get 2 sets of lefthand brakes, so looking to get a right hand lever..

anyone know if you can get the tech 4 levers standalone as yet, managed to get 2 sets of lefthand brakes, so looking to get a right hand lever..

No, but if you send one of your Left sets back leisurelakesbikes.com have right (and left) sets in stock.
I ordered a set on Wednesday, they were delivered on Saturday. Very nice they are too.

Any more updates from those that have gone Tech 3 to Tech 4? Surprisingly there’s no reviews online yet and I’m really tempted!

I’ve got a pair and I can’t tell you how good they are .power is outstanding and the lever feel is almost as light as the hayes a4 dominions they replaced.they come with a spare set of red galfer pads I can 100% tell you they are night and day from the old tech 3.i had to send my 3 ride old Dominion back to wiggle as the master cylinder was leaking but replaced under warranty but I lost faith in availability of long term spares .I got my hopes from Merlin in black and silver and with my loyalty bonus and extra discount paid £322 so I’m delighted.went to antur stiniog last Saturday and they were flawless and just like the light lever of the Dominion have really helped with my carpel tunnel syndrome.buy them you won’t regret it .it’s been a long time since I’ve bought something and can’t wait to tell everyone I ride with and let them feel them for themselves.

Is that the E4 @Big-Bud ?

How are the green racing organic pads? Much noise?

How are the green racing organic pads? Much noise?

Theyre quite small physically and so rattle a bit, and the wear rate is quite high.

On the brakes overall though, they are outstanding. So much so we’re now building all our demo bikes with E4 at the moment, they are that nice its worth the extra.

Any more updates from those that have gone Tech 3 to Tech 4? Surprisingly there’s no reviews online yet and I’m really tempted!

very happy with my upgrade!
definite improvement over tech3s

Theyre quite small physically and so rattle a bit, and the wear rate is quite high.

On the brakes overall though, they are outstanding. So much so we’re now building all our demo bikes with E4 at the moment, they are that nice its worth the extra.

Cheers, I’ve got tech 3 V4 on both my bikes so when I can see some V4 green pads available I’ll probably swap, and of course try and nab a set of tech 4 v4’s if (when) I change my frame.

Thanks everyone! I actually ordered a set from Wiggle with my platinum discount this morning as I had an email to say they where back in stock.

This was more to see if I was going to keep them. Just need some adaptors to mount the shifter and dropper lever!

@fathomer

This was more to see if I was going to keep them. Just need some adaptors to mount the shifter and dropper lever!

Rush Cycles have Tech 4 shifter mounts in stock

Thanks @Akers will have a look 👍

Yes mate E4 .like Ben said the pads do rattle and I opened the spring and they have been golden since .I opened the spring from the centre not just bending the arms of the spring and this sorted that out .the pads squeeled for all of 3 descents on the first ride and have not heard a peep from them since.reviews say the green race pads wear quick so I took some spares to stiniog which was wet under bike but they still look like new .I did a pb 22 runs mainly black powder so brakes get a good workout and they blew me away.i did order the hope bleed kit when I shortened the hoses and the bleed was effortless.i run the bpc closest to bars and just seven clicks of the lever throw out as I like them close to the bars but feeling solid and that strong grunt didn’t alter all day .you will not regret it

For anyone interested, the Shimano mounts do work with some I-Spec II shifters. I email Hope and they confirmed the XTR M9000 as that’s what I have.

@kimbers might work for you if you’ve not got a bar clamp yet and you have a compatible shifter?

https://www.hopetech.com/_repository/1/documents/2022DirectShifterMountChart.pdf

Still not sure weather to keep them 🙂

thanks fathomer I have the unloved ispec B

In the end I got a mount from this guy in Estonia, its a bit fugly but rock solid
delivery took a couple of weeks

@fathomer – howdy hope all is well 🙂

keep us posted on these brakes, I’m really intrigued by them, and the above reports of them being much better all round over the e3’s, i was really disappointed with mine when i had some

but given i know what/where you ride etc i know you’ll give them a similar hammering to me so very interested on your thoughts please 🙂

I got my hopes from Merlin in black and silver and with my loyalty bonus and extra discount paid £322

*Bites fist*

That’s outrageously tempting.

I like my Tech (Evo? It’s the ambidextrous master cylinder) V4s but they just don’t feel like they have much bite. They do, but just don’t feel like it.theu we’re going to go onto the DH bike anyway, some E4s would save putting the Guides onto the Pitch.

@oscillatewildly all good thanks, you?

See I’ve always really liked my Tech 3 E4’s, got them on both bikes an the oldest pair have been going at least 6 years. I just fancy a little more bite for the steeper stuff!

@fathomer – yep all good this end thanks

yeh i think ive had 2 pairs over the years and just didnt like the power, just seemed to fade especially in the wet and it just lacked some confidence

i have heard a few people now say (along with this forum) that the new ones are a different brake almost completely to the old one so very interested as they are easy to maintain and get parts/bleed

I was wondering are the tech 4 levers and pistons backwards compatible.
It could be a cheapish way of upgrading tech 3/4 brakes.
Anyone done it ??

I was wondering are the tech 4 levers and pistons backwards compatible.
It could be a cheapish way of upgrading tech 3/4 brakes.
Anyone done it ??

I think the only change to the calipers are the new hybrid pistons, so you can use tech 3 or tech 4 or Evo lever with the X2, E4 or V4 (and probably some others!).

Yes it’s all back compatible, I could fling them on my M4’s if I wanted to.

I’ve been in touch with Hope today about various things. Tech 4 levers soon to be available as lever only apparently.

Levers are on wiggle

Levers are on wiggle

Give us a link please, I can only see the lever blade

Hmmm so tempted after yet another XT lever leak. Hate the wasteful throw away Shimano mentality when a £2 diaphragm would easily fix it.

My big issue with Hopes has always been the hideous constant chirping noise they make wet or dry. Any chance these new ones are quiet? Barely hear a peep from XT’s.

My big issue with Hopes has always been the hideous constant chirping noise they make wet or dry.

Honestly not noticed any sound from mine

But never noticed from my tech3s either

singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/hope-brake-fanbois-you-wont-want-these/page/6/#post-12382066

Very common noise, you hear it on pro Hope riders videos. I found the tech 3 E4 really bad for it.