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Group riders… a new generation of ramblers. With wheels.
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myfatherwasawolfFree Member
Edric 64 – Member
I must admit RO has a point I too hate large group rides four is enough and you may get to see and hear the wildlife if there are not loads of you which is one of the points of enjoying the great outdoorsSo disc brakes yes
Mass rides noTotally agree
tazzymtb – Member
I go riding to get away from people, so massive group rides are my idea of hell. (Yes I am an antisocial f**ker)Also totally agree!
MFWAW, Antisocial F**ker with disc brakes 😆
PeterPoddyFree MemberRo most certaily is NOT FRED!
I know this because whilst he's been spoting his crap on here, I've been having a fantasic group ride with Fred and many others off here (see Surrey Hill thread)
Which is also why I know thisguys, it's a sunday. family day out. parts of your proposed route will be LITTERED with jenny and james and their mummy and daddy. do you honestly think the best way to travel that route is as a herd of bikers? get real.
is quite simply one of the biggest loads of bilge ever to (dis)grace this forum. If you don't know the Surrey hills is one if the most heavily trafficed areas of the country (wkers, horse riders, cyclists, drivers) and and area I know fairly well. There's rarely any problems at all and our group of 9 rode quite fast and hard all day and had a wonderful, stress free time, thanks. We talked to walkers and picnicers and the sun was out and everyone was very happy.
Jeezus, some people. Is it you time of the month Ro?
😛
PeterPoddyFree MemberOh, and I'm with SFB on this one. I've been on one of his rides and a nicer group of people you could not wish to meet. SFB does more for our passtime than most other people can ever dream about. Stop trying to drag us into the mud Ro, and take a leaf from his book. 🙂
buzz-lightyearFree MemberOK; Ro is not Fred.
Re: people freely enjoying the countryside responsibly on foot or bike. This is a good thing. Social rides are also a good thing especially when, like me, one rides solo most of the time.
tangentFree Membersome +posts about the group riding etc.
much earlier on in the thread I (eventually) suggested that if infact we are a new generation of Ramblers' then that's just fine -as the original Ramblers (Kinder Mass Tresspass etc.) social movement was rad. So if you choose to ride in groups, do it with advocacy and activism.
A conclusion whihc I realise is not itn the spirit of the O.P. , however this thread made me think about it a bit more…
ojomFree Memberwhat-a-cock
you aint meant to be checking me out when i change jimmy.
it's your lady i feel for. how is she going to take 'the news'.?
bullheartFree MemberI ride by myself mainly. But riding with others helps motivate me to try harder. It also alleviates the pain associated with my illness/treatment via taking my mind off it.
I don't ride owt fancy though. My kit is gash. But I do have disc brakes 😉
househusbandFull Memberhow is she going to take 'the news'.?
Lying down, I'd hazard a guess – if that's what she indeed calls Jimmy's willy.
(Or 'newsflash' if what she's told me is true.)
stuartie_cFree MemberInteresting thread…
Group rides are arranged on here all the time but the OP only seems to take issue now that you have dared to use a route which he has ridden before and trodden on his sacrosanct turf dressed in your garish clothing and nonchalantly dabbing on your fancy-dan modern disk brakes.
I've seen the evidence with my own disbelieving eyes – one person had a flash of RED in their apparel!
coastkidFree Memberro, i was on said group ride today…i met some real nice guys,and once again some real nice guys i have met before…we met no ramblers out on the hills,we met alot of day trippers near pitlochry who all stood aside on trails for us and were all very polite and friendly…we also had some navigation help from an estate employee who enjoyed seeing us all (a large group of 9 by your statement) enjoying the scenery he lives in everyday…i didnt see any day glow clothing and anodised bling either…
i often ride beaches on my own…my local trails on my own…and group rides,i commute to work most days and the only cyclists i know who have hostility are mostly cyclists with attitudes….
so what is the point your trying to make exactly?
i find folk like you hilarious…usually you end up on village gala committtes…or captains of golf clubs 😆
you`ve failed in life elsewhere somewhere mate and you need to get a grip…
oh buy the way for the record all the guys there today live and work here in our country,pay our taxes,and exercise our rights as free voting residents to enjoy our countryside…so when your living abroad what gives you the right to let your belly rumble? 🙄WoodyFree MemberI've done a near identical route many times by myself or with a friend on my dark green Kona, dressed in jeans and a Barbour.
Whatever else has gone on in this thread that made me 😆 😆
I take it the ensemble was completed with green wellies and flatties rather these new fangled spd's ?
zangolinFree Memberro – Member
well, if you could have hung on until nov/dec, one of the projects i'm involved in will be very expensive mountain biking vacations around oudom xai in northern laos.the area is a little dangerous, both in terms of remoteness if things go wrong (no helicopter rescue for you, young man) and in terms of the many armed groups in the region, but the riding is just un-bloody-believable. well worth the risks, for sure.
so if you have $3000 to spare, plus your return airfare to luang prabang in laos (currently about $1900 return) you can have the experience of a lifetime. and maybe die.
Is this not hypocritical? surely your "MTB vacations" will involve groups of riders? or are they only for the solo self-righteous prig?
roFree Membererr… if you'd read between the lines then you'd have realised that groups larger than four wouldn't be welcome in oudom xai, plus you need to pay attention to what people are doing on their bikes and i can't watch more than three people at one time.
the situation in laos is totally different, you moron. one small enterprise like ours changes the life of a whole community. putting a couple of thousand dollars into the local economy, teaching them basic english, buying their food and services, perhaps training local guides so we can expand, etc., means their kids get a chance to study at a better school, they can afford basic healthcare, they have the possibility to interact with a new world.
there are limits on what we can do there. i would take groups of 20 if i could. but the limits are imposed by others. we do what we can with what we've been given.
have you been to northern laos? there is nothing there but weirdness. that's what makes it special. you could lose a hundred mtbers dressed in bright pink in one square kilometer of jungle, and there are thousands of square kilometers up there. to say nothing of the mountains, the river valleys, the sheer other-worldliness of the place.
there's a difference between putting together a project based on some form of sustainable development for a decent community and twatting around on your silly mtb adventures in pitlochry. and if you can't see that, you're dumber than even i imagined.
roFree Memberit's true. i'm no fan of spd's either. they prevent me from easily dragging my feet on the ground to stop 🙂
RichPennyFree MemberA quite beautiful troll ro, I hope it has kept you entertained. Next time you are in the uk, you'd be more than welcome on one of our group rides in the south…
DrPFull Member….i would take groups of 20 if i could….
So – do you hate big groups, love big groups, or are you just not sure?
DrP
roFree Memberhate groups, DrP, love what big groups could do for others. is that so hard to understand?
and how's the gms contact working out for you? i imagine you can't quite work out how to spend your income…
bullheartFree Memberro,
A lot of folk on here have alluded to you being unsuccessful; a different person from the one you portray here on the forum.
I get the feeling that's not the case. I reckon that you've always been close to, if not at the top, of the class regardless of what you've done. So I can't understand there seems to be so much vitriol and disdain for others?
sfb, who is often fairly 'difficult' (although very entertaining!) in his posts seems to have had the door shut on him in this particular post, but I can't see why?
roFree Memberi'm actually surprised i come across that way, 'cos irl i think i'm seen as highly opinionated but fairly sane. ah well…
besides, i'll never annoy rational people. they see the rants for what they are – an element of truth mixed in with the 'mr angry' persona. i only annoy a certain type of person, and they thoroughly deserve having their tails tweaked.
mtbing and running used to attract individualists who were quite capable of poking each other with a smile. then they went mainstream, and this is the result.
i'm sure sfb understands that he simply made some good points which i found rather difficult to refute, so i've chosen to ignore him for a while.
that's ok, isn't it?
bullheartFree MemberOK? I suppose.
Disappointing? Fairly. It would suggest that baiting people is enjoyable, unless they can put up a rational argument, at which point it becomes too much effort.
Fair point?
PeterPoddyFree Memberlove what big groups could do for others
So why slag them off then? You contradict yourself too much, matey….. 😛
i'm sure sfb understands that he simply made some good points which i found rather difficult to refute, so i've chosen to ignore him for a while.
"It's MY BALL and if I can't WIN then I'm taking it away! Wahhhh Wahhh Wahh!"
[stamps feet]roFree Memberit isn't baiting. baiting would be saying 'you're all complete tossers for riding in groups and i loathe you as human beings for so doing'. did i say that? nope.
i questioned the group riding ethos, and gave reasons why i felt it wrong. colourful and over-the-top reasons. why do some of you get this and others completely miss the point?
this isn't a debating chamber, it's an internet forum. it's meant to be a little crazy. get with the plan. you too peter.
bullheartFree Member'you're all complete tossers for riding in groups and i loathe you as human beings for so doing'
That's not baiting. Thats insulting people. Baiting is more subtle; designed to illicit an unmeasured and emotive response.
Which is what you do. You can argue until the cows come home about it, but the proof is in your posts.
Don't get me wrong; I have no problem with you. I think its fine to engage in banter; the forum would be weaker without it. I also understand your point of view, despite not agreeing with it. But I think your response on your other thread is an interesting insight into your persona –
hey guys, if that's your attitude i'll save myself the hassle. i'll revert to my normal posts.
how do i delete this thead? mods, would you chop it please?
Maybe you're a little too bright a star for this galaxy?
PeterPoddyFree Memberi questioned the group riding ethos, and gave reasons why i felt it wrong.
And I gave very good reasons as to why I thought it was right on the first page of this thread, which you chose to ignore, just as you chose to ignore SFB.
this isn't a debating chamber, it's an internet forum
But we can make it a debate if we so wish. And some of us do. And when we do, your side of the debate runs out of puff and you start ignoring people! 🙂
get with the plan. you too peter
I am, thankyou. My plan is 'Fun' and it's working very nicely, cheers….. 😛
ken_shieldsFree Memberpetesgaff – Member
Maybe you're a little too bright a star for this galaxy?
My moneys on the fact that he's a bit of a bell end 🙄
simonfbarnesFree MemberI've been on one of his rides and a nicer group of people you could not wish to meet.
Yes, it's a great club and I'm proud to be in it!
SFB does more for our passtime than most other people can ever dream about.
but I think I get more out of it than I put in
i'm sure sfb understands that he simply made some good points which i found rather difficult to refute, so i've chosen to ignore him for a while.
I did guess this might be the case but had not expected you to admit it 🙂
i questioned the group riding ethos
Considering how much fun we have doing it, 'if this is wrong I don't want to be right' :o)
roFree MemberMy plan is 'Fun' and it's working very nicely
so is mine 🙂
hiya sfb!
*waves frantically*
HeatherBashFree MemberNot keen on large groups – riding in them or encountering them. Part of the reason I go into the hills is to escape all that. I find 6ish a good maximum number anything more just seems like an incredible fuss to organise
rOcKeTdOgFull Memberi only like large groups when the words "swapping" and "wife" are involved
simonfbarnesFree Memberanything more just seems like an incredible fuss to organise
I do it all the time and it's dead easy. I've carefully trained them to take no notice of anything I say :o)
shorts_in_winterFree MemberRo, having been to Laos a few times with work would be interested to know whereabouts your talking about in the North. I know a few companies are springing up doing MTB touring south of Vientiane.
It is indeed beautiful country in the north (i travelled up to Phu Kham copper mine a few times) but i understood it to be pretty dodgy, with militia and what have you.
Its also a lot cheaper to fly up from Oz than the UK… my bike does have disk brakes though and i`m not taking them off for anyone 🙂
HeatherBashFree Member>I do it all the time and it's dead easy.<
Yup – familiar with your penchant for having a busload of folk strung out on the trail beside you 😉
simonfbarnesFree Memberfamiliar with your penchant for having a busload of folk strung out on the trail beside you
it's not just my choice – they're all enthusiastic volunteers too 🙂
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