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  • slimjim78
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    Im told that you have to imagine being repressed and persecuted and tortured for a lifetime before you can understand why the reactions are always so barbaric.
    Im also told that as a comfy westerner ill never understand.
    Apparently, this is the wrong forum too..

    Digger90
    Member

    No.

    However, I was disturbed to see the pictures of the victims his troops burned alive in warehouses a couple of weeks ago.

    I was disturbed to see pictures of the civilians he has tortured and murdered.

    I was disturbed to see the crying faces of the children whose mother and fathers he murdered.

    spacemonkey
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    Can’t say I ‘like’ seeing photos of dead people, no matter if they were evil bastards.

    Must admit I did check out the video of Saddam’s trapdoor exit shortly after though. Never felt compelled to see it before. Was pretty weird. And not sure it should be available on t’ interspace.

    Premier Icon kimbers
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    its the video of him alive before hand that i found more disturbing

    whatever his crimes, it wouldve been better for him to face a trial and potential execution rather than being shot, stripped, dragged behind a truck and then killed (which is i gather what happened)

    edit i think he was stripped after death

    souldrummer
    Member

    Have watched the BBC News and Channel 4 and have to say the images broadcast were gruesome and IMO really not necessary. Yes, there were warnings and yes there is an off button but how have we got to the point where this is somehow acceptable for broadcast at 6 or 7pm and furthermore, can the story not be told without using such images?

    yossarian
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    An inglorious and brutal end to an inglorious and brutal man

    You usually get what’s coming to you, don’t you?

    Is the Hague the war crimes/genocide court?

    bigbloke
    Member

    He treated people like they were animals and as such is it surprising he also was treated like an animal in the end?.

    TandemJeremy
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    Enjoy a good lynching do you digger?

    Premier Icon mintimperial
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    I thought it perhaps shouldn’t have been splashed on the front page of the news sites I saw it on (including the BBC, who really should know better). Prompted some rapid window-shutting when my 3 year old was around, that did. I know we’ve made ourselves a rather nasty little world to live in, but I’m doing my damndest to keep that from him for as long as possible.

    TandemJeremy
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    bigbloke – Member

    He treated people like they were animals

    Really? a country with a low mortality rate, good food security, good medical care etc – perhaps one of the most prosperous and stable counties in Africa until we backed one side in a civil war and **** over another country to go with our sucess in Afghanistand an Iraq

    Try looking to charles taylors Liberia or amins uganda……………

    Now if only they’d do this to the war criminals of Iraq and Afghanistan… George Bush and Tony Blair

    Elfinsafety
    Member

    No.

    However, I was disturbed to see the pictures of the victims his troops burned alive in warehouses a couple of weeks ago.

    I was disturbed to see pictures of the civilians he has tortured and murdered.

    I was disturbed to see the crying faces of the children whose mother and fathers he murdered.

    Are you equally disturbed to see the pictures of civilians killed by western troops in Iraq and Afghanistan? Etc…

    Whilst I can understand the delight of millions who hated Gaddafi, who was undoubtedly a nasty bastard, what do you think of Iraqis who parade with the dead bodies of US soldiers, who they see as murderous scum in just the same way?

    And what if any British people were to want to see the same happen to David Cameron, or Tony Blair, etc?

    Not directed to you personally btw, simply general questions.

    I don’t really think that dragging a battered corpse around screaming like madmen lends anyone any dignity. And as for those shouting ‘Allah hu Akbar’, well, treating the dead body of a fellow Muslim in such a manner isn’t going to mark you out as a respectable follower of Islam.

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    jivehoneyjive – Member

    Now if only they’d do this to the war criminals of Iraq and Afghanistan… George Bush and Tony Blair

    Even that evil prick Donald Rumsfeld should have the benefit of trial and jail. I’ve never fancied myself a bleeding heart, but the notion of killing someone, then plastering their image all over the public domain, is just terrible.

    derekrides
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    I’d be happy to put Gordon Browns head on a stake and parade it around a bit if you’d like me to and can arrange an opportunity..

    If you could chuck Mandelson and Blair in for good measure I might even do it for free..

    Premier Icon aracer
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    perhaps one of the most prosperous and stable counties in Africa

    How many of those less prosperous have huge oil reserves? How many of those less stable have autocratic repressive regimes?

    allthepies
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    There were warnings given on the news before the images were broadcast, you could have chosen not to look.

    TandemJeremy
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    aracer – Member

    perhaps one of the most prosperous and stable counties in Africa

    How many of those less prosperous have huge oil reserves?

    Nigeria?

    Premier Icon aracer
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    hilldodger
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    Elfinsafety – Member

    And what if any British people were to want to see the same happen to David Cameron, or Tony Blair, etc?

    Aren’t you one of those polishing up your dancing shoes in anticipation of a certain ex PMs death ??

    To glorify or rejoice in the death of another human being is (IMO) never a justifiable position 🙁

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    allthepies – Member

    There were warnings given on the news before the images were broadcast, you could have chosen not to look.

    Nonsense. First of all, I don’t have a tv, so there were no warnings. I saw the still pictures on Google News, which – as you know – trawls the world’s news sources and simply indexes the headlines.

    As it was, I simply went to GN, and was faced with a half-dozen images staring back at me, from such sources as the BBC and the Independent.

    Premier Icon SaxonRider
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    Did anyone else find the photo of Gaddafi in death quite disturbing?

    It makes me think of the days when executed people’s heads were put on pikes for all to see.

    It would be nice if the human race could move beyond turning corpses into trophies.

    Premier Icon oldnpastit
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    I hope I’m wrong, but it looks like the new Libyan regime doesn’t care much more about justice than the old one.

    In which case any democracy they might hope to create will be built on foundations of sand.

    mogrim
    Member

    Really? a country with a low mortality rate, good food security, good medical care etc – perhaps one of the most prosperous and stable counties in Africa until we backed one side in a civil war and **** over another country to go with our sucess in Afghanistand an Iraq

    Stability backed up by ruthless crushing of all dissent, though. A fair trial would have been nicer, but I can’t say I’m particularly concerned that he’s dead.

    deadlydarcy
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    To think hell never be called to account for farting while John Simpson interviewed him. **** outrageous.

    mudshark
    Member

    Advanced civilization seems to mean we have to be nice to everyone no matter what they’ve done. You know, human rights.

    Digger90
    Member

    Enjoy a good lynching do you digger?

    Think you should re-read my post as you’ve clearly missed the point.

    TandemJeremy
    Member

    Not that I can see. You seem think its acceptable that he was lynched. any violent death is wrong.

    Digger90
    Member

    Well TJ, if I enjoyed a “good lynching” as you have suggested I would hardly be disturbed by pictures of the remains of people having been burned alive, other victims who had tortured/murdered or by their children who have lost their fathers & mothers would I?

    Useful to apply logic before posting sometimes.

    TandemJeremy
    Member

    ut you are not disturbed by seeing a man killed by a mob? OK a bit OTT from me but so was your post. You certainly seemed to be relishing his violent death

    brakes
    Member

    any trial would have been a farce and would have turned him into a cartoon rather than the evil tyrant that he is/ was.
    in the circumstances, I think he had a fair trial.

    Berm Bandit
    Member

    Do you know, given all the available options I’d rather be dictated to by the Americans, Blair, Cameron or even Thatcher as to what my life might be like rather than Gadaffi or Hussein quite honestly? So while I share some qualms about what has gone on I’m not going to be so hypocritical as to feign indignation whilst continuing to enjoy a way of life that is a function of it.

    Premier Icon billyboy
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    If we were talking about this happening to a nice bloke it might be different…

    BUT THIS GEEZER WAS NOT A NICE BLOKE

    It isn’t often in this poxy world that something approaching justice happens….the fact that it happened in a poxy way lends it symmetry…

    go with the flow people

    chewkw
    Member

    That is not gruesome at all.

    They should put him to trial then … hang, drawn and quarter (live TV or pay per view).

    The gruesome thing to watch is the little girl in China that got ran over by two vans. That’s gruesome considering 18 people walked passed her without giving any concern. A land with no heart. That 18 people should be hang,drawn and quarter to free up space.

    🙄

    TandemJeremy
    Member

    Blair and Cameron have killed more people than Gaddafi. Or don’t they count if they are in far away countries? as for Bush and Rumsfeldt

    There are far worse people that Gadaffi around.

    chewkw
    Member

    TandemJeremy – Member

    Blair and Cameron have killed more people than Gaddafi. Or don’t they count if they are in far away countries? as for Bush and Rumsfeldt

    There are far worse people that Gadaffi around.

    Hang, drawn and quarter the lot … live or pay per view TV.

    🙄

    TandemJeremy
    Member

    consistency is good I guess chewkw 🙂

    Elfinsafety
    Member

    Aren’t you one of those polishing up your dancing shoes in anticipation of a certain ex PMs death ??

    Yep. What of it?

    To glorify or rejoice in the death of another human being is (IMO) never a justifiable position

    What if someone’s tortured/raped someone, and then dies/is killed? Shoon’t their victim rejoice in the fact that their attacker can no longer harm them?

    Jeeze, there’s people I’ve known who’v met an untimely end. I certainly wasn’t sorry to see them go.

    Do you know, given all the available options I’d rather be dictated to by the Americans, Blair, Cameron or even Thatcher as to what my life might be like rather than Gadaffi or Hussein quite honestly? So while I share some qualms about what has gone on I’m not going to be so hypocritical as to feign indignation whilst continuing to enjoy a way of life that is a function of it.

    Yeah, but then you enjoy the luxury of not living in a country where the actions/orders of such aforementioned tyrants have a detrimental affect on your way of life.

    Yeah, but then you enjoy the luxury of not living in a country where the actions/orders of such aforementioned tyrants have a detrimental affect on your way of life.

    Other than screwing my pension, getting my country in debt that my kids will still be paying off, destroying the NHS and free University education etc etc etc.

    It all depends on the culture you’re used to, no they’ve not attached electodes to my balls, have they had a detrimental effect on MY life? yes

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