- Full Facer for trail riding?
as helmets go though… the parachute is easily the stupidest looking helmet available. Yes I do think there are some helmets that look OK.
Yep but you can’t see that when you are wearing it. Best compromise I have seen and used. Used very extensively and it saved my face.Posted 4 years ago
Why ? Is you really ugly ?
I hit the floor just over 2 weeks ago and shattered my jaw in 3 places, so permanently titanium plated jaw and my parents are now sticking to the guns of the fact i should be riding with a full facer (i respect their opinion and at least wanted to find out if it was possible)
Thanks for everyones suggestions, Ill have a look through them.. either way I need a new helmet as the old one has an enormous crack where it saved my life.Posted 4 years agomikewsmithSubscriber
That is a real shame, some days I wanted to put mine back on with the hope of seeing some STW’s haterz out and about 🙂
After that the carbon deviant is a fair bit heavier and more of a light DH rather than a tough/heavy trail lid (yep I know that space is thin) Not tried any of the others about.Posted 4 years ago
That said, a DH full face is overkill
Why worry what others think? No one is going to pay your bills. If I see someone in a full face on a regular trail but wearing xc kit/xc bike I think ‘ah I know why’.
If I see someone in a DH helmet, pj’s top etc on a regular trail I think ‘hes going to bust some moves for us’ or hes a knob.
Its obvious- to anyone who it isn’t – they don’t matter to you.Posted 4 years agorocketmanMember
Does such a thing exist as a full facer that is light/breathable etc enough for wearing for all trail riding
I have an entry level 661 it’s ff-shaped but it’s not a proppa ff. The construction and design makes it feel familiar to anyone who is more used to a normal bicycle helmet – a typical beginner’s ff. The lining is thin, the helmet is light and it has a massive aperture it’s quite easy to use it for trail riding when the weather’s not too hot. Also have a Met Parachute which has its uses but for me it’s not a go-to helmet. The design is a bit dated now and generally I find it heavy/enclosed enough to be intrusive but draughty enough to be uncomfortable unless the weather is warm
Might also want to look at CratoniPosted 4 years agocakefacesmallblockSubscriber
It’s unfortunate that sometimes these things have to be decided in hindsight I guess.Posted 4 years ago
Occasional towpath forays without a lid are a thing of the past for me, having smashed my lid, not my head at Cannock on woodwork two years ago.
Earlier this year I bought a Bell Drop f/f lid in Halfrauds sale (£25 bargain)as a just in case because it was cheap. I wore it this week for the first time when we rode a one off at Antur Stiniog and to be honest I’d not have ridden it in my trail lid.
Now,I’m not about to start wearing it on rides in Wyre, but then, I’ve not smashed my face in and I have always been ugly.
If it lets you ride either confidently, or as a parental “smoother”, then why not ?
To be blunt I’d think about carting it strapped on your pack on the claimbs and wear an xc lid, then swap them round on the downs.
Biggest downer for a f/f lid is probably that no one can see your grin ! But then it’s your ride, not theirs.
I’d also think about how you ended up landing on your face? (Hope you’re recovering ok, sounds painful!) Was it just bad luck or did you get something wrong on the technique front? It’s easy to over-rotate on gnarly stuff when you get tense.
I would LOVE to know what I did wrong, unfortunately when going 30mph on your regular natural forest, ride it 5 days a week, route and hitting the floor you tend to have some blank spots in your memory!
Far as I knew I was riding in forest next minute that I’m aware of I’m already on the phone to 999 trying to explain to them where I am. I only know for sure where it happened as a few hours later I had a brief flash of it and my OH went back a few days later and recovered one of my front teeth, roots n all!Posted 4 years ago
hora – Member
Take it off, strap it across your chest- using each strap looped under each arm of your backpack.
For every climb? No thanks.
Thing about this approach is that sooner or later, you find a techy bit mid-climb or a very short descent. Can you be bothered putting it on, taking it off, every time? I wouldn’t. We watched a guy ride round McMoab with a full face on his back, interesting.
A helmet you’re wearing will offer more protection than the one on your camelbak. And you’re never more likely to crash than when you’ve boiled your head.Posted 4 years ago
When I need a new lid again I’m going to have a look at the Cratoni. Any views etc would be great. Pity the graphics are abit pap.
And you’re never more likely to crash than when you’ve boiled your head
There, you’ve said it yourself. When its really a humid day in Summer and its a long ride you are more likely to lose concentration if you overheat. A 20min climb will help you cool- remember most heat loss is through your head…
I strap it to my front, across my camelbak straps. I don’t get this middle-aged obsession with must wear everthing everywhere 100% of the time. If we are that obsessed then we shouldn’t really ride anything vaguely technical.
Yes – you can come off on non-technical JRA stuff but then thats freak. A mate had to have his ankle fused after putting a foot wrong on the stairs at home. Should we install a lift, but then the doors need to be safe and etc etc etc etc.Posted 4 years ago
GolfChick – Member
Why ? Is you really ugly ?
I hit the floor just over 2 weeks ago and shattered my jaw in 3 places, so permanently titanium plated jaw(
It happens my eldest decked it in Barcelona a few years ago and now has a Ti plate in her wrist, there is nothing you can do to protect against that and the chances of it happening again are less than winning the lottery so just buy a really good helmet.Posted 4 years ago
How about a 1 minute climb in a 20 minute descent?
Holds Northwinds hand = The answer there is keep your helmet on.
Or a 1 minute descent in a 20 minute climb?
1min descent always equals helmet on.
Do you understand the concept of a long drawn-out climb that I was giving an example on? Its not hard drawn-out concept now is it. At no point did I say ‘a long climb with a descent in’ did I? 🙄Posted 4 years ago
hora – Member
Do you understand the concept of a long drawn-out climb that I was giving an example on?
I did. I also understand that a 20 minute climb isn’t cooling, helmet on or off, unless you’re barely moving.
Did you understand that I was talking about all climbing and you came back with a limited example as if it was of relevance to all climbing?Posted 4 years agomessiahMember
A few years one of my friends crashed with a Met Parachute on and the chin guard bent inwards and cut his chin… would probably have been worse without the guard though as he landed on his face in a rock garden
He now wears a Specialized Deviant even when the rest of us are riding normal lids. He is the fastest of us and has a habit of pushing a bit harder on the descents riding closer to his limits.
He broke his Deviant when he hit a tree during an Enduro race a few weeks ago and promptly bought another.
If you think you need it wear it, who cares what others think.Posted 4 years agobluebirdMember
I’ve got a Specialized Deviant that I use alps trips and the odd spot of uplift/downhill. It’s well vented for a full facer, but it is stuffier/hotter when compared to an open face helmet when used for uphills. Thats said, you can take it off for the climbs and use it when you need it on the descents.Posted 4 years ago
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