richardkennerley

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How far are fracking sites from urban areas in the US?

Sometimes right under them- as long as it’s poor folks. And if they complain, that’s socialism!1!! You can’t stop people from making money, that’s the american dream.

(sounds like sarcasm, isn’t)

No, but the Surrey hills is the 5th largest onshore oil field in the Uk. And there is drilling.

drilling doesn’t cause the same tremors fracking does

Of course they’re not fracking underneath Godalming

Nope, just under Sandbanks.
Where no one has complained.
Sad that Green idiocy has throttled a potentially lucrative industry.
Still, the gas will be there until sense is restored.

It’s a really bad day, Blackpool’s last hope gone. Fracking might have allowed it to collapse and slide beneath the waves, now the poor bastards will have to go on living there!

avdave2

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It’s a really bad day, Blackpool’s last hope gone. Fracking might have allowed it to collapse and slide beneath the waves, now the poor bastards will have to go on living there!

Maybe if the Fylde coast had broken off and floated away, we could go on living there in a new utopia where the rest of the country doesn’t come and embarrass themselves and puke and fight on our streets!! 😜

How about the economic angle:
https://www.ft.com/content/3b0b5fae-fd72-11e9-b7bc-f3fa4e77dd47

Energy prices for oil, gas, wind and solar have all fallen over the past five years. If the UK fracking industry had not been halted by concerns over earthquakes, the economics of trying to produce small amounts of gas in the face of strong local opposition would have forced it out of business eventually.

It’s shameful we have such short term planning. Seems crazy to subsidise fossil fuels by billions more than we do renewables. What’s that about a Climate Emergency?
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jan/23/uk-has-biggest-fossil-fuel-subsidies-in-the-eu-finds-commission?

Why stop at fracking in the UK? Theres a whole word out there…

UK to use finance meant for green energy to support fracking in Argentina

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/22/uk-to-use-1bn-meant-for-green-energy-to-support-fracking-in-argentina?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Seems crazy to subsidise fossil fuels by billions more than we do renewables. What’s that about a Climate Emergency?

Things are not as simple as that report suggests involver. It highlight Germany as a beacon of hope. Although now changing, Germany is more reliant on its coal sector than we are.

Also Germany has no real oil and gas sector. I think I read that Germany is reliant on importing 95% of the gas it uses. The UK is reliant on about 50% imports. Believe me, I am sure Germany is happy enough for other countries to subsidise their oil and gas industries on Germanys behalf. I imagine the same applies to other European countries with minimal oil and gas sectors.

I imagine that leaves Germany with more money in the pot to put up wind farms.

cterry

Nope, just under Sandbanks.
Where no one has complained.
Sad that Green idiocy has throttled a potentially lucrative industry.
Still, the gas will be there until sense is restored.

I thought this was something that the Telegraph were saying years ago, but since shown to be a lie

The government have said that there’s been no applications to frack there

https://www.poole.gov.uk/planning-and-building-control/planning-policy-and-guidance/minerals-and-waste/fracking-in-poole/

Not to mention that the effects could vary hugely depending on the local geology

The oilfields down there have used a lot of horizontal drilling to ensure that enviro impact is limited

I imagine that leaves Germany with more money in the pot to put up wind farms.

All countries should be reducing their use of fossil fuels and investing in alternatives. Fossil fuels will run out, they pollute the environment, and contribute to the Climate Emergency. Carrying on business as usual is short sighted in the extreme.

All countries should be reducing their use of fossil fuels and investing in alternatives. Fossil fuels will run out, they pollute the environment, and contribute to the Climate Emergency. Carrying on business as usual is short sighted in the extreme.

Things are changing, but perhaps not fast enough. I know through bitter first hand experience. Coal use in the UK has dropped off a cliff in the last 5-7 years.

I think their was potential mileage in carbon capture and storage, however this was funding fossil fuels and subsidies dried up a few years ago.

I think their was potential mileage in carbon capture and storage, however this was funding fossil fuels and subsidies dried up a few years ago.

Successive governments commission reports, feasibility studies, designs etc. Then just as they approach the point where something might get built, and the big bills start, they pull the plug and the merry go round starts again.

I was involved with one, last i heard was the rights to the IP already created had been purchased by one of the parties involved to consolidate them but they couldnt get a permit to build it even without subsidies.

All countries should be reducing their use of fossil fuels and investing in alternatives. Fossil fuels will run out, they pollute the environment, and contribute to the Climate Emergency. Carrying on business as usual is short sighted in the extreme.

Problem is people shrug, “but what can i do” and turn the heating on. Because the gas in their boiler comes from unicorn farts*, the petrol** in their car from unicorn tears and plastics come from magical rainbows***.

*Russia
**all over
***Fracked gas, but just not from under a field in Cumbria with WI ladies singing Jerusalem in the background.

But they have a tariff from Ovo and can see a windfarm from their house so thats OK.