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  • Football – 2023/24 Season
  • dirtyrider
    Free Member

    the united takeover stuff is baffling

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    argee
    Full Member

    the united takeover stuff is baffling

    I don’t think it’s about money any more with the Glaziers, i think they’re just trying to mess with Binner’s now 🤣

    blackhat
    Free Member

    I’m sure money and greed trumps all for the parties involved but I wonder if events in Israel might have made it impossible for the Glazers to sell to a Qatari?

    binners
    Full Member

    the united takeover stuff is baffling

    Not if you’re familiar with the Glazers, its not. This is panning out as we all knew it would. A total farce. Like everything else they touch. I didn’t think for one minute they’d just sell the club. This was always about their latest ruse to screw as much money out for themselves as possible, while loading more debt onto the club. If Jim Radcliffe pays 1.5 billion for a minority stake, the Glazers will pay themselves 1.5 billion the following morning

    The club is ****ed and it looks like it will remain ****ed!

    On another note: England v Italy tonight, which I won’t bother watching, obviously. Life’s too short for that. But Southgate’s squad selection is baffling. The side will be captained by a player who’s presently in a pub side in Saudi and he’s going to have a central defender who’s manager would rather start one of the women who works in the canteen before him.

    Italy should batter them!

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    dc1988
    Full Member

    As binners says, I’m not convinced they really want to sell. The value has gone up massively and they put any borrowing debt on the club. The Glazers are making massive amounts of money and the club is unlikely to go down in value any time soon. They don’t care what the fans think so they will just keep doing what they’re doing.

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    binners
    Full Member

    It was clearly just a valuation exercise.

    They’ll now say that because the Qatari’s were prepared to offer X squillion pounds, the club is now therefore worth X squillion pounds, so lets re-mortgage the club for that X squillion pounds, then pay ourselves that X squillion pounds, loading the even more enormous debt back onto the club

    Job jobbed!

    They’re ****ing parasites and thats how they think

    neilnevill
    Free Member

    Rumour has it that the qatari’s are considering a bid for spurs instead now.  While I think Enic are not the best possible owners,  I don’t warm to the prospect of Qatari owners.

    ransos
    Free Member

    Italy should batter them!

    That aged well. Two cracking goals as well.

    johndoh
    Free Member

    That second half – possibly the best I’ve ever seen Kane play for England. And Bellingham 🥳

    nickjb
    Free Member

    Got to the pub in time for the penalty. It was all England after that. Italy looked totally out of it. A couple of lovely goals

    dirtyrider
    Free Member

    …..and San Marino, have scored!!

    https://x.com/HLTCO/status/1714376829643915505?s=20

    binners
    Full Member

    That aged well. Two cracking goals as well

    My predictions are as reliable as ever 😂

    inkster
    Free Member

    Is Bellingham any good in goal? I say that because I can imagine him playing in any other position from 2 to 11…

    Klunk
    Free Member

    rather “unfortunate” celebration?  😕

    DaveyBoyWonder
    Free Member

    lol. I thought Spurs were pretty fortunate last night – had loads of possession early on but didn’t have a shot on target as far as I could remember, then Fulham had a short spell where I think they could arguably have done better in front of goal before Spurs scored their two goals. Then Fulham could easily have scored 3 or 4 in the last 15 minutes if they’d not dawdled on the ball and actually got a shot away… having said that, Maddison seems guilty of that a lot. He seems to have a bit of an over inflated opinion of himself so every time he tried to take it past more than 1 defender he ended up being tackled.

    Spurs looking decent though so far – I’m honestly surprised that someone has managed to carry success in Scotland into success in the Prem.

    gobuchul
    Free Member

    I’m honestly surprised that someone has managed to carry success in Scotland into success in the Prem.

    They have played 9 games.

    binners
    Full Member

    In other news to cheer us all up, Steven Gerrards Murderers United played Beheaders City, or whoever, in the Saudi League at the weekend to a huge crowd of 696 people. Apparently poor old Jordan and co are all hating it and regretting the move, but are being told in no uncertain terms that contracts must be honoured so they’re going nowhere. Thats a shame, innit? 😂

    argee
    Full Member

    Spurs did what they needed, Fulham were well set up, and always hard to break down, they had the better of the first 15, but then Spurs had the rest of it until the final 15, think the stats were in favour of Fulham at 4 shots, 1 on target after 15 minutes, then they had the same at about 60!

    The last 15 were daft though, think Ange just subbed off the front 3 and it caused a proper down tools event, not sure Fulham could’ve had 3 or 4, probably 1, as i think the clear one might have gone back to the foul on Kuvuleski.

    DaveyBoyWonder
    Free Member

    They have played 9 games.

    And got 23 points so more successful than any (?) other manager to have made the move from north of the border to the premiership in recent times?

    In other news to cheer us all up, Steven Gerrards Murderers United played Beheaders City, or whoever, in the Saudi League at the weekend to a huge crowd of 696 people. Apparently poor old Jordan and co are all hating it and regretting the move, but are being told in no uncertain terms that contracts must be honoured so they’re going nowhere. Thats a shame, innit?

    Well I didn’t see that coming 😀

    neilnevill
    Free Member

    Spurs could be 5 points clear going into the weekend.  Purely because we play Friday,  but I’ll still be smiling if it does come off.  Palace at Selhurst.  If I wasn’t planning to take the kids to see the rest of Croydon stands tall’s giraffes then the pumpkin trail Halloween event at Grangewood Park would allow me to hear the crowd and a couple of thousand spurs fans cheering loudly (hopefully) while gaining daddy points.  

    Then it’s yet another London Derby with a visit from Chelsea and the first return of the prodigal poch.  Hmm.

    MSP
    Full Member

    I expected the saudi league to fade after a couple of seasons, it was clearly never going to get any traction among football fans. It is funny to see it crash so quickly with the mega dollar outlay. As for the players who took the dollars, what the **** did they expect, did they really expect premier league crowds in the desert?

    binners
    Full Member

    Dear god, this is absolutely dire!

    Sideways, sideways backwards from a team who look, as usual, like they just can’t be arsed. It’s like watching us under Mourinho and that was like watching paint dry. Has any United player actually put a challenge in yet? Or given any indication that they’re not on a life support machine?

    I think I might watch Bake Off instead. It’d be more entertaining

    God help us at the weekend against Citeh. It might even eclipse the result against Liverpool last season. They could get into double figures

    Christ, they’re absolutely shite!

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    Philby
    Full Member

    Binners – your favourite player Maguire has just scored, so all is not lost!

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    MoreCashThanDash
    Full Member

    Binners – your favourite player Maguire has just scored, so all is not lost!

    I bet MrsBinners had a tenner on that!

    binners
    Full Member

    He’s just doing it to wind me up now

    dander
    Full Member

    Andre! Onana!

    binners
    Full Member

    We’ve finally found something Onana is actually good at! Other then punting balls aimlessly out of play around the half way line

    He’s like a crap Fabien Barthez

    dander
    Full Member

    I only saw the second half but United weren’t very good, were they? Pedestrian. Square pegs in round holes. Ten Hag not sure of what formation to play and who to play. He’s on thin ice I think. 

    binners
    Full Member

    I just can’t fathom why Garnacho isn’t starting every game. Mind you… Ten Hags team selections and formations just generally mystify me anyway. He appears to be picking both out of a hat 5 minutes before kick off

    We looked pretty good at the back end of last season. We look like a pub side, this one. We’ve gone backwards at a rate of knots

    We’re going to get absolutely mullered on Sunday. Robocop must be itching to get stuck in against that Sunday League defence

    dander
    Full Member

    I had a look at the results this season. Palace reserves in the EFL cup is the only game you’ve won by more than one goal. The rest have been 1 goal victories. Probably a good job you’re at home at the weekend.

    binners
    Full Member

    Maybe last season. Our home performances have been awful this season too. Not exactly the consistency we were after. Being as crap at home as we are away

    argee
    Full Member

    Never really rated ten hag, he just doesn’t come across as a manager that can do something at this level with a club like ManU, he’s not someone i see inspiring players in the squad, and weirdly the last week he’s been saved by players who he’s basically shunted onto the sidelines and having badmouthed them as well i believe, but now having to play due to injuries.

    I do wonder what someone like Ange would do with the squad at ManU, and so many under performers, i see teams with such vast squads of talent, but with ManU there seems to be a scorched earth policy with a lot of their squad players who aren’t in fashion, i can’t see them going the season without some big drama centring around this.

    binners
    Full Member

    You’re absolutely right.

    Drama? We were barely into the season when there was a Mexican stand off between Ten Hag and Sancho which has resulted in the highest payed player in the club (£340,000 a week) having been ostracised and sat at home on his PlayStation awaiting being offloaded in the January transfer window (probably at a huge loss)

    I have a certain amount of sympathy for him because he was pulling up trees in Germany, then courted by United, a massive, big money transfer, then just either left sat on the bench or played out of position.

    So what was the point? It’s just appalling management, which is just par for the course at Old Trafford nowadays. Ask Donny Van de Baak. I’m sure they’ll both leave and immediately return to their pre-United form while United continue flailing in its now standard rudderless, chaotic direction, getting worse and worse by the week. Does anyone in that squad look like they know what they’re meant to be doing? Or look like they even care?

    Never mind too 4 (5?), we’ll be lucky to finish in the top half of the table. It’s an absolute shambles and it’s painful to watch

    Saccades
    Free Member

    Tbf, we have an unfinished striker for the future (**** expensive mind), a lazy, injured gobshite and a streaky lazy winger who thinks he’s gods gift available to score goals.

    Sancho is a lazy **** who at city and in Germany acted like a **** manchild, needing the coach to make sure he wasn’t late for training. Have you seen the videos of him cheating in training? No wonder the lazy c unit was blowing out of his arse after 70 mins in a game.

    Place is a shit show (a bit like the formatting on this post wtf?), but going so deep last season has **** us with injuries now and then you get shit like Mason & and the glazers being atesholes

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    inkster
    Free Member

    “I only saw the second half but United weren’t very good, were they?”

    I was there tonight and in comparison to the first half, the second half was absolutely stellar.

    I’ve been a few times this season and can confirm that Rashford is rubbish, gets the ball, faces the opposition, does a bit of strictly come dancing and that’s about it really. The lack of physicality throughout the side is chronic, they can’t even be bothered to pit a few fouls in, the only thing they’re likely to win this year is the fair play award.

    argee
    Full Member

    Is Rashford rubbish, or is he just not played right, or being supported enough, it’s funny we talk about Sancho being pesona non grata at ManU for professionalism, but Rashford’s head goes down most games and he can disappear, but there’s no real move to bench him for a period, you have Garnacho, Pellestri, Eriksen, etc who can be used in and around that role Rashford is doing.

    It’s also weird that Mount, the big summer signing, is benched and ManU play a loanee (well two loanees) last night, it does have a feel like there’s something brewing, as stated earlier, what makes me laugh though is players who were binned publicly over the last year, are the ones coming up with the goods this month and keeping the results going.

    Again, i just don’t like the managers way with his players, the squad ManU has, a decent man manager should be getting improvement from a few players, look at Ange at Spurs, Howe at Newcastle, De Zerbi at Brighton, O’Neil at wolves and so on, they come in, buy a few, but get squad players improving into first teamers, you look at ManU, and what players already there, have improved to make it to the first team, and i mean those who weren’t already starting 11 or in through injuries just now?

    MSP
    Full Member

    Yeah, I think that Ten Hag has a touch of the Mourinho’s about him. He dealt with Ronaldo last year, saw that strengthened his position and now sees isolating and picking on players as his primary method of controlling the group. Klopp and Pep might call out players from time to time, but 99% of the time they are inclusive and inspirational alongside the demands, Ten Hag doesn’t look to have that side to his personality.

    I thought Rashford was poor in the last England game as well, rather lazy and didn’t really contribute much to the game other than his admittedly well taken goal.

    dander
    Full Member

    So glad Mount chose Manchester and not Liverpool. Wouldn’t have gone for Szoboszlai otherwise! 

    binners
    Full Member

    I thought Rashford was poor in the last England game as well, rather lazy and didn’t really contribute much to the game other than his admittedly well taken goal.

    He’s been awful all season. As have the entire squad, to be fair to him. A major issue here has been the absence of Luke Shaw out on the left, behind him. They very much operate together and when he’s out we’ve no player can do his job. He’s been playing Lindeloff in that position.

    Rashford is a confidence player though and when he’s on form, he’s unplayable. He couldn’t stop scoring last season. But if he goes a few games without scoring, his head goes down and he seems to totally lose his confidence in front of goal

    As for being lazy and not contributing much… that definitely applies to the full squad at the moment. The only ones who look like they can actually be arsed are the ones who seem to spend most of their time on the bench. Go figure? 🤷‍♂️

    neilnevill
    Free Member

    I remember watching a young sancho play for dortmund vs spurs at Wembley one of the years we had them in our cl group.  He was just coming on the mainstream radar and the papers seemed to be saying more about him than the game in the build up.  A guy behind us was on his back all game,  constant abuse,  and tbf if you’d not read a paper and known he was rated as an upcoming star you’d have not noticed him…. until after one well timed shout of abuse from behind us he collected the ball and went between about 3 spurs defenders to get a shot off. It was a glimpse,  that’s all.   When signed by manu a year or so later I was slightly surprised as I thought he had more development still to do to make an impact in that side.  I suspect the talent is there somewhere but the staff at united aren’t bringing it out.  He needs a move,  but on the absurd wages he is who would be go to?  If United pay him out maybe he can get his career going again but otherwise …. who knows.

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