Based on one game (yeah stupid I know but sod it) I’m gonna stick my neck out
I think I agree with you. But I don't want to "jinx" it!
Tonali and Barnes look excellent additions.
Gordon looks like the player we thought we had got last season.
Isak will only get better.
Saturday night will give a real indication, then off to Liverpool after that.
Its Keano's birthday so in honour of the great man, shall we just take a moment to have a bit more of the on screen chemistry between him and Daniel Sturridge ....
https://twitter.com/HLTCO/status/1690991321622687744?s=20
😂
<p>Predictions for tonight? I can’t see anything other than a stroll for United. Wolves seem in disarray, have lost Neves and a decent manager in Lopetugui. Relegation candidates I think. </p>
You'd like to think it would be a stroll, but never underestimate our ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory
Wolves do seem to have been on a downward trajectory since Nuno Espírito Santo left though
In other news it appears West Ham have come to their senses and neither Maguire or McTominay are now headed there. Just what we need... another two Phil Jones's on our books, sitting with their feet up, seeing out their contracts on 200 grand a week 🙄
ETH is trying his best to push Maguire out of the door, while saying he is welcome to stay, it is absolutely hilarious to see him trying to bite his tongue and not just scream "will you just **** off".
Maguire just isn't reading the room.
He's not a bright lad, is he? I don't know about reading the room, it really doesn't get much clearer than this.
He might as well have just said 'don't let the door hit your arse on the way out slabhead'.
https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1690983631928336385?s=20
Predictions for tonight?
Martial to start and subbed off injured inside 15 minutes.
Its Keano’s birthday so in honour of the great man, shall we just take a moment to have a bit more of the on screen chemistry between him and Daniel Sturridge ….
it's the collab we never knew we needed but absolutely deserve! Daniel's lack of spacial awareness is so so good as well 😆
Committed ABU Mrs Binners has put her customary bet against us on and might as well have a Wolves top on
This playing it out from the back lark looks about as confidence-inspiring as it did when TH tried it at the start of last season, and we all know how that went
How is that not a penalty? We have been robbed!
On that performance, I’m pretty sure we can stay up, just need to take our chances.
Ah, those pens are always hard to give, you can see both sides, but it's old trafford so even less chance of getting it 😂
Think ManU need to work out how they stop players walking through their midfield, that was unreal watching them just let Wolves players go through so easy and unchallenged.
Oh yeah, Garnacho and Antony are a pain to watch as well, fall over, complain, blame everyone else, repeat, the manager needs to sort their attitudes out a fair bit.
* knows how we got three points out of that. We didn’t deserve one. If Wolves had anyone who could hit a barn door with a shovel then we’d have been three down by half time. Played us off the park.
Ten Hag has started this season like he started last one. Attempting to play a style of football where nobody knows what the * they’re doing or where they’re supposed to be. Absolutely dire! I hope he ditches it as quickly as he did last season. We just can’t play that style of football . He can’t scapegoat Dave any more.
Good start by Mason Mount though. The only time I saw him touch the ball, he actually fell over it 🙄
Wolves made a mockery of my relegation fodder comment. Although if they can’t score playing so well and having so many chances then they will go down! United lacklustre but early days. Casemiro looked pretty alone in central midfield, missing Fred?!
Seriously, I can’t understand how VAR can look at that and decide it isn’t a penalty.
Seriously, I can’t understand how VAR can look at that and decide it isn’t a penalty.
We suffered plenty of the same corrupt VAR decisions last year. Remember Anfield in the cup when they said the cameras had not worked!!
Teams like Wolves will never get decisions against the big clubs, the officials make sure of that. If Sa had taken out Rashford at the other end, what do you think the decision would be?
Not sure whether this has been done elsewhere, but it's relative to the new season, Mason Greenwood and his potential return.
Personally, it was stories like this that pushed me away from the sport many years ago before my son got me back into watching it again. There's no way I'd allow him to wear a Greenwood top, not a likely situation as he is a Citeh fan, but the feeling stands.
Looks like Man Utd are setting him up to return going off the we'll have to consult the womens team story that came out over the weekend,,,
How do you Man Utd fans feel about this?
How do you Man Utd fans feel about this?
I never want to see him in a United shirt ever again. And every other United fan I know feels the same.
But given that all our owners care about is money and he’s still under contract, I’ve also noted that they seem to be ‘rolling the pitch’ for his return. Apparently he’s training, but not with the team. It won’t play well with the supporters, that’s for sure.
Let’s all cheer the wifebeater, eh? No… let’s not.
Just one more reason to despise the morality free parasites that are the Glazer family, who (as was always obvious) have no intention of selling the club. This whole charade has been a scam to leverage more debt to load on the club while they rip more hundreds of millions out for themselves
Reassuring to hear Binners, but the way the women's football team have been targeted on social media has worried me. At least it sounds like it's the silent minority or an army of bots as opposed to a feeling that he's not been convicted so he's innocent t and he can play again.
He'll no doubt surface at another club even if Utd let him go, such is the dreadfull morality vacuum at a lot of clubs. I'm not sure you can just blame the Glazers for this, although symptomatic of weak leadership.
Hopefully last night's protest helped.
as opposed to a feeling that he’s not been convicted so he’s innocent t and he can play again.
Surely he is innocent until proven guilty?
He seems to be a very unpleasant person but the police dropped all charges when "new material came to light".
The evidence that first showed up would suggest he was absolutely guilty, however, the police dropped the charges.
Is it fair that he isn't allowed to work again, in his profession, on unproven allegations?
My understanding is that the complainant has withdrawn cooperation with the CPS and they have reassessed the case and realised they would be unlikely to secure a prosecution.
Agree he is technically innocent until.proven guilty, but the stuff in the public domain would surely give anybody or organisation pause for thought about employing him or wanting him around? Really disappointed that 'senior' players are said to be okay with him returning, none them have female relatives?
but the stuff in the public domain would surely give anybody or organisation pause
This 100%, the audio recording is disturbing to say the least.
This 100%, the audio recording is disturbing to say the least.
Agree 100%.
However, he is "innocent" and all charges have been dropped.
Where does it end?
My understanding is that the complainant has withdrawn cooperation with the CPS and they have reassessed the case and realised they would be unlikely to secure a prosecution.
Agree he is technically innocent until.proven guilty, but the stuff in the public domain would surely give anybody or organisation pause for thought about employing him or wanting him around? Really disappointed that ‘senior’ players are said to be okay with him returning, none them have female relatives?
The complainant has had a baby with Greenwood since this began, got engaged and are living together as a couple, honestly, there's probably a lot of teenage behaviour as well as bad stuff, but they're together, they appear happy, he has not been charged with anything, i think he needs to go abroad to avoid all the backlash, but that's probably the worst thing for his soon to be wife and child!
It's a weird one, but probably a move somewhere in the UK, not far away from her support network is the best thing for the family.
Wouldn't give Keane the time of day if I met him as it's possible as he also catches the boat over. Fabricated and constructed a set of issues in Saipan. Insulted non Irish players and management and directly led to the loss of potential talent through the diaspora we rely on. 62 caps and only our third best player.
I’m not sure you can just blame the Glazers for this, although symptomatic of weak leadership.
They own the club. They are presently his employer. They could terminate his contract this afternoon if they wanted to. I don't give a flying **** if he's been convicted of anything or not. He's a nasty, violent abuser and I don't want to see him in a United Shirt ever again
This Guardian article sums it up and points to the ethical vacuum at the top of the club
https://twitter.com/jonathanliew/status/1691344733627645952?s=20
Let’s all cheer the wifebeater, eh? No… let’s not.
Right up until he scores the winner against City with injury time. He'll then be the golden boy again.
Not with me he won't. I doubt he would be with anyone except a minority of idiots. Read that Guardian article and it pretty much sums up my opinion on it. I don't think he should ever put on a United shirt ever again. Simple as that
Heres another article for you on the whole sorry farce
https://twitter.com/danielstorey85/status/1691336947162390529?s=20
Even though the CPS decided the evidence against Greenwood was insufficient to mount a criminal prosecution, here is a quick run through of what we do know, for the “he wasn’t convicted” crowd. There is audio of Greenwood shouting abuse and allegedly threatening to rape a woman, despite her protests. There were pictures of bruises and fresh blood wounds. If there is a watertight argument on grounds of morality, this is it. How much consulting does it take to work that out?
Utterly spineless of United to announce they're "consulting the women's team" before reaching their decision. They've created a handy scapegoat if his contract gets ripped up, and those poor women have already been targeted on social media.
Here's (hopefully) how the majority of United/football fans feel:
https://twitter.com/UnitedStandMUFC/status/1689940298334412800
That guardian article is bang on. Substitute Greenwood for say, Scott McTominay, and it’d have been dealt with months, years ago.
Luton Town Season Ticket Holder here. Along for the ride, its going to be an interesting season.
Well the Berkshire Behemoth is off and running now with a with a complete annihilation of Cheltenham (Pop 200).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66502508
Chelsea sign yet another player. Even as a Chelsea supporter this whole situation is just unreal. Bonkers
Even if you ignore the actual amount spent (which is dodgy state level) the wholesale spend in January was mad, the unloading in the earth suggested a reality check, which has been completely negated by the last few days. Mad and depressing
Even as a Chelsea supporter this whole situation is just unreal. Bonkers
The net spend over the last 12 months is utterly insane! I just can’t work out how you can possibly even hope to stay within the FFP rules.
They were talking about this on the Monday Night Club last night. Apparently if you’d have been in the champions league this year you’d have been in contravention of the latest UEFA rules which the FA haven’t implemented yet
You’re apparently getting round it by Boelly structuring players contracts to get round the existing FA rules, but then Citeh have been making a mockery of ‘the rules’ for years anyway
I’m just jealous, obviously, at the concept of having owners putting money into a club, rather than taking as much as possible out of it
As for the players you’ve signed… are you employing Jurgan Klopp as a scout? 😂
The thread is about 2023/24 season but it is deeply depressing and concerning that the few posts about mason greenwood didn't gain more traction.
As for his employers - amoral, emotionally cold, money before principle, duplicitous, despicable, panderers to the lowest common denominator who are racists, misogynists and bigots.
A football club with no moral compass.
As for the thread and the season, my team is and always has been NUFC; first time at St James' was when Wyn Davies was playing centre forward so I go back a very long way.
Money corrupts - and allows those in possession of it to make 'difficulties' go away.
few posts about mason greenwood didn’t gain more traction.
We all know what a disgusting individual Greenwood is and maybe this is worthy of its own thread as a deeper societal issue with some young men and exacerbated if they are famous, an asset and very wealthy but i see this thread as being a more lighthearted football banter one, similar to the rugby thread but with a big sport.
On a positive note, 3 of the people who will apparently decide his fate are playing in a World Cup semi-final in a couple of hours. A lot more than he's ever managed.
We've already covered how disgusting it is that they've been put in that position in the first place, but I hope they win this thing, come home victorious, then say "Mason who...? Tell him to * off, the vile wife-beating *!'
I’m just jealous, obviously, at the concept of having owners putting money into a club, rather than taking as much as possible out of it
Uh huh...
https://www.football365.com/news/transfers-premier-league-five-year-net-spend-man-utd-man-city
Spending money badly still counts.
Oh god, not this again.
*sigh*
Yes, I'm well aware they've spent inordinate amounts of money (really, really, really badly).
The point is that you're hardly likely to find Manchester United's owners being pulled up for potentially breaching Financial Fair Play rules. Why? Because a huge chunk of the enormous revenues generated by the club are paid in share dividends and consultancy fees to our absentee owners and in servicing the enormous leveraged debt that they loaded onto the club, which stands at exactly the same now as it was when they 'bought' it.
The latest ruse of pretending to sell the club was just a way of establishing a valuation, which they can then use to essentially remortgage the club and load it with even more debt, while pulling yet more hundreds of millions out for themselves
So.... yes, I am a bit jealous of clubs who's owners not only want to plough ALL their revenues back into the club, but more besides
My god. I'm trying, I really am, but women's football is verging on the unwatchable. The problem is that the gap in quality from what we're used to in the men's game is massive, so watching it is just all a bit meh..
What men's football do you mean/do you watch? If you mean Champion's League or Premier League then of course. OTOH I've seen Reading twice recently at the bottom of the Championship and now in the EFL1, and while the pace and power is different class, the technique and precision isn't much different, and because it isn't being played at a million miles an hour it's an easier watch for me. Lower league stuff can be dreadful. For sure, Reading would probably put 10 past either of these sides, but that's not the point....it's two evenly matched sides playing a decent, structured game.
Tell me James' goals against China aren't quality.
My god. I’m trying, I really am, but women’s football is verging on the unwatchable.
Whilst I agree there is a difference in quality between the men's and women's games, I wouldn't say it is unwatchable. There's been a few really nice long balls from both teams early on in today's game (no idea of players involved as I have sound muted and it's a small screen) and throughout the tournament, there's been some cracking goals, great 'keeping and great spirit shown by all teams.
"The point is that you’re hardly likely to find Manchester United’s owners being pulled up for potentially breaching Financial Fair Play rules."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66203315#:~:text=Manchester%20United-,Man%20Utd%20fined%20%C2%A3257%2C000%20by%20Uefa,mino r'%20Financial%20Fair%20Play%20breach&text=Manchester%20United%20have%20been%20fined,place%20between%202019%20and%202022.
Manchester United have been fined 300,000 euros (£257,000) by Uefa for a "minor" breach of Financial Fair Play (FFP) rules. They were one of a number of clubs sanctioned by Uefa under FFP rules in place between 2019 and 2022.
Maybe check the facts before posting? United proven to have breached FFP. City cleared of doing so by CAS.
Nice goal.