No love for Yamaha on here though, the most reliable motor I’ve had, out of warranty now though so Sod’s Law is being implemented as I hit post 😂

4 prototypes and 3 failures. Shimano suck

2018 Vitus E-Sommet here, will be 5 years old in March. 2 mates have the same bikes, we’re all on our 3rd motors. All done under warranty, they are supposed to have a rolling 2 year warranty which has been honoured but never had it in writing, think there’s a fair chance of getting told to do one if mine craps out again in the next 12 months.
It’s been the most fun thing I’ve ever bought but don’t think I’d have another one with a Shimano system. Shame Bird seem to be stuck with them. Wonder when next gen is due out, anyone heard anything?

There was an update on fb the other day

4 prototypes and 3 failures. Shimano suck

Nothing I can see on Bird or Ethic’s FB. I guess it was a story so I’ve missed it? Thanks for sharing as my medium-term hope was (and might still be) that they’d get a half-fat eMTB out say a year after this one.

Also I found this post about their Shimano vs. Fazua selection https://www.bird.bike/ethic/

On the FB post he said there was a 75% failure rate so maybe it was 3 out of 4 bikes or just 3 out of 4 different motors.

Can anyone provide a link to these posts?

@bikesandboots info didn’t come from FB

https://www.facebook.com/groups/birdmtb/permalink/3331737293771006/

You won’t see it unless you join the group.