DH world Championship this weekend

I’m not even seeing anything about Danny Hart in the local paper where he/we live – The Evening Gazette, it’s a massive shame really.

Beeb website sometimes has a story, sometimes doesn’t. Not always the most prompt at getting the story online.
Busy weekend though, what with the Vuelta, ToB, and Paralympics results too.
One would imagine that getting both stripey jerseys might make a story some time in the next day or so.

I suspect Danny was giving advice to Laurie, as they’re team mates.

I find it quite interesting as well the way the men’s downhill is. 2 years ago at this stage of the season rat boy was on another level that no one could touch. Only lost out on the worlds because he over jumped the last jump. Still finished 3rd tho I think. Last year it was bruni, this year it’s hart. Given how close the racing is most of the time what have these guys got to be able to take seconds out of the opposition?

honourablegeorge – Member

AlexSimon – Member
Just caught up.
Real shame not to see full pulls from Bruni and Gwin.

Yeah – you want to se ethe best guys, hard to know just how good Danny was without those guys to gauge against

Well Gwin was 1.5 seconds down at the first split and Loic was nearly 4 seconds down but no idea where he punctured. No coming back on a short course with those time gaps.

http://www.uci.ch/mountain-bike/ucievents/2016-mountain-bike-uci-mountain-bike-trials-world-championships/351392716/widgets/start-lists-results-standings-177170/

scandal42 – Member

I ride with dannyh, hes only a few seconds off Hart

Absolutely correct – in a 20m race down a straight fire road I reckon I’d only be a few seconds behind.

The reason that many (me included) have a pop at Brendan Fairclough is the sheer talent he possesses, yet refuses to capitalise on by getting into decent shape. As a mere mortal, it vexes me that someone with such amazing talent will not do the extra 5%. Claudio just sighs when Fairclough is on a run.

I know he sells loads of bikes for Scott and the ‘slacker’ image is great for that, but selling bikes for someone else and being in loads of magazines comes a poor second to winning titles – at least as far as I am concerned.

tomlevell – Member

Well Gwin was 1.5 seconds down at the first split and Loic was nearly 4 seconds down but no idea where he punctured. No coming back on a short course with those time gaps.

http://www.uci.ch/mountain-bike/ucievents/2016-mountain-bike-uci-mountain-bike-trials-world-championships/351392716/widgets/start-lists-results-standings-177170/

Gives you a rough idea, yeah, but I’d like to have known that Hart was six seconds (or whatever) faster than Gwin. Also, I think Gwin had flatted early, so it was probably already costing him time when his rim failed.

I find it quite interesting as well the way the men’s downhill is. 2 years ago at this stage of the season rat boy was on another level that no one could touch. Only lost out on the worlds because he over jumped the last jump. Still finished 3rd tho I think. Last year it was bruni, this year it’s hart. Given how close the racing is most of the time what have these guys got to be able to take seconds out of the opposition?

It tends to ebb and flow doesn’t it – Sam Hill, Gee & Stevie Smith (RIP), Ratboy and others, they reach a point in their career when they’re just on fire, the planets align for them somehow and they seem unbeatable, and then for some reason it seems to go as quickly as it came and they’re left wondering what happened, most of them stick around near the top, but they lose whatever it was that gave them that 1% over everyone else.

Dannyh gets it. I have never said Fairclough can’t ride, quite the opposite. He is probably the most natural talent out there. If he put in half the training that Gee, Danny and Nico used to be would podium.

He needs to either shit or get off the pot. Or have a season where he is 100% World Cups or 100% Rampage and properly train.

Claudio is often embarrassed by how little he try’s. You can hear it.

Gee and Minnaar have been consistently at or near the top, so I’m not sure that theory stacks up. Even Hart has won the worlds twice, so I’m not sure that theory makes sense.

The theory that if he trained like those guys he would be up there with them? Wins wise?

OK, so how about a different angle? Which rider has been genuinely consistent year in year out? For me it’s only Minnaar. He’s had spells within the season where he’s not been on it, then turned it around and got some good results and always looks capable of doing some damage, each and every season.

Gwin is similar, but had that complete flop of a season (by his standards) after his first World Cup overall. I would have put Gee up there too but he’s gone off the boil now. Hope he can pull it back.

Just Minnaar then or do the results suggest some others are also year-on-year consistently and competitively in the mix for a win?

It’s up there now.. spooky!

BBC more into DH than the Singletrack homepage shocker!

That is an awful report, not even a mention of Laurie Greenland, assuming that the BBC has no reporter covering the DH, that can’t just be the press release from british cycling can it?

Anyone got a link to Laurie & Danny’s runs?

Anyone got a link to Brendan’s training schedule?

Some of you have obviously seen it.

that can’t just be the press release from british cycling can it?

More likely a press release from Team Atherton.

I wouldn’t call it an awful report, it’s not meant for us armchair experts.

Anyone got a link to Brendan’s training schedule?

Some of you have obviously seen it.

Apparently dirt jumps, moto & (shr)edits around the Surrey Hills with the S4P crew.

Clearly the slackers route to being a top DH (free)racer.

stilltortoise – Member

OK, so how about a different angle? Which rider has been genuinely consistent year in year out? For me it’s only Minnaar. He’s had spells within the season where he’s not been on it, then turned it around and got some good results and always looks capable of doing some damage, each and every season.

Gwin is similar, but had that complete flop of a season (by his standards) after his first World Cup overall. I would have put Gee up there too but he’s gone off the boil now. Hope he can pull it back.

Just Minnaar then or do the results suggest some others are also year-on-year consistently and competitively in the mix for a win?

Minnaar is certainly, you can never write him off, he’s everyone second favourite rider I think.

There are a few more riders who are pretty consistent, but not quiet as close to the sharp end.

Outside of DH I think Rossi is a lot like Minnaar, different character certainly, more dominate, but a long career, only really ever had one major injury and it’s rare to see him do something rash. Aside from that disastrous time with Duccati

Some of you guys LOVE you some Fairclough.

You don’t need to see his training schedule to see he isn’t as physically fit as Atherton and Gwin etc. If he peddled more he would place higher. Fact.

He is a throwback to the Rob Warner days. What happened the one time Warner actually peddled? He won his only ever medal at Kaprun.

Don’t think there was much pedalling at Val di sole….

OK, so how about a different angle? Which rider has been genuinely consistent year in year out? For me it’s only Minnaar.

It can only be Minnaar. His podium ratio is bonkers.

I’m here nor there on Fairclough, I just think its much more complicated than “training + skills = winning”.

There hasn’t really been anywhere to pedal on most of the courses this season anyway.

jmatlock – Member

Some of you guys LOVE you some Fairclough.

You don’t need to see his training schedule to see he isn’t as physically fit as Atherton and Gwin etc. If he peddled more he would place higher. Fact.

He is a throwback to the Rob Warner days. What happened the one time Warner actually peddled? He won his only ever medal at Kaprun.

Love is a bit strong perhaps, but I really like the guy.

I don’t know what’s going on in his head, but IMHO he’s living the life he wants – lord knows I’m jealous – he’s a ‘Pro Rider’ a World Cup Racer, a very good Freerider, even if he’s not a Slopestyle rider (which seems to be what some people think is a freerider) he’s on-par with someone like Thomas Vanderham for ‘big mountain’ riding – but TV was never as good as BF at racing World Cups.

What he doesn’t seem to have is a burning desire to be a World Cup winner, I don’t think he’s a dismissive about it as he might seem to be – I certainly recall some slightly snide FB/Insta posts from him when he’s failed to qualify for the team before now.

He might change his mind this winter, 28 now I think, he might go all Atherton, get serious (and a bit boring) spend 6 months lifting weights and eating kale, clip in and start chasing tenths instead of throwing whips. I’ve no doubt he could if he wanted to, but perhaps like Ratboy seems to have done, he’s already worked out what makes him happy rather than what he’s ‘supposed’ to do, so he’ll keep doing it.

OK, so how about a different angle? Which rider has been genuinely consistent year in year out? For me it’s only Minnaar.

Gee was incredibly consistent till the last couple of seasons.

P-Jay – Member

for some reason it seems to go as quickly as it came and they’re left wondering what happened, most of them stick around near the top, but they lose whatever it was that gave them that 1% over everyone else.

Look at Minnaar’s career though. Incredible how he’s been right at the top – apart from 14/15 which you can forgive, fiven the years previous, and still came abck with a win this year. Some boy.

2001 – Won in Austria, won the World CUp, 3 in Champs
2003 – Win in Switzerland
2004 – 2nd in Legs Gets
2005 – World Cup winner 2005, 3rd in Champs
2006 – 2nd World Champs., 3rd in World CUp
2007 – 4th in World Champs with a dislocated shoulder
2008 – Just the World Cup overall
2009 – Won in Canada,SA & Fort William, won the World Champs
2010 – 2nd in World Cup, 3rd in Champs
2011 – Won Fort William & La Bresse
2012 – Won South Africa and the World CHamps
2013 – Won South Africa (he does that a lot) and Leoganf
2016 – Won Fort WIlliam

jmatlock – Member
Some of you guys LOVE you some Fairclough.

Well we did have a laugh at the mega years ago, he was late to the start and me and a mate were yelling for him at the lift, caught a beer after top lad. (long story about a German and his mech hanger – you had to be there) then honestly his mega run this year was so sweet and bold it should have scored more for balls alone. And some other stuff that tells me he’s a top guy.

And Greg
G. O. A. T.

Still nothing on the front page? Pretty shabby guys.

Oh wait. There’s loads of Eurobike stuff. So that’s ok.

Start with the obvious that Rachel’s win is so deserved and what a truely incredible season. Danny Hart had a quite time after his Champery win but has been right back in the hunt this year so surpeb. Greenland arriving on the big stage in style.

So to Josh. Not a big surprise he is leaving Santa Cruz, all the rumours about emails flying around from the factory “demanding” results. You get the sense Josh has just said “wtf just do one”. Maybe he does need a rest – he’s young enough to do it and come back.

Who is to say we won’t see a Steve Peat Racing team with Josh or even a new “Syndicate” with Minaar too.

What a great race on a truly brutal track. Only just watched it – glad I managed to avoid any spoilers! Can’t wait to see what 2017 brings with Gwin vs Hart!

Anyone got a link to Laurie & Danny’s runs?

Can still watch it on Redbull TV, they even have markers for the riders so you can skip to specific runs.

http://www.redbull.tv/live/AP-1KRDTX1YN2111/uci-mtb-world-championship

What happened the one time Warner actually peddled?

What was he selling ?

I’m getting quite intrigued by the lack of a mention of this on the home page whilst the Eurobike stuff keeps on going. Any bets on what time Danny and Rach will get a mention?

It’s also weird that none of the MTB media have had enough initiative to do a piece on Bryceland.

Maybe they’re waiting for someone to start a thread on here so they can just link to it?

😉

It’s also weird that none of the MTB media have had enough initiative to do a piece on Bryceland.

As there has not been any public statement I guess it means he isn’t in a mood to talk to people. Waiting to see what the last syndicate video holds as in some ways they like to say it their way.

It’s possible that SC has requested media not to cover it, but it’s not necessary to get quotes from someone to do a story about them. Otherwise the newspapers would be a lot thinner.

Very true but unless you want to write a complete speculation piece about somebody you probably know that great think called being a nice person cuts in. I’m not sure many people are holding off on big life decisions based on the future of the syndicate. At times the newspapers could probably exercise some of that judgement.

Coverage has been abysmal of the entire event Imo.

You have to ask why the BBC would bother covering it when a site like singletrack can’t be arsed to even mention it.

2 Brits win the world champs and nothing.

BBC?
Rachel Atherton and Danny Hart win mountain bike world titles – http://www.bbc.com/sport/cycling/37338450
Stw? The editorial staff are all away?
Coverage? Try one of the main dh sites pink bike, vital or others. Loads of coverage everywhere