David Icke at Wembley last Saturday

The victim testimonies (there were well over a hundred) seem mostly to suggest that the abuse was taking cold showers, a clip round the ear, being flicked with a wet towel. that sort of level.

What about the ones who mentioned Jimmy Savile?

Strange that the Zandvoort stash has been linked to Jersey as well.

Let me ask you a question. Your “experts” are OK, right? but any other “experts” that have a different view from yours…they’re in on it, right?

I’m not saying they’re all in on it, many are likely not aware, or are too scared for their profession/otherwise occupied to engage in getting their views heard.

He’s either an idiot or a genius

A genius making money from idiots?

What about the ones who mentioned Jimmy Savile?

one case investigated in 2008 mentioned Jimmy Saville there was insufficient evidence to proceed. Had they known in retrospect what we now know about him, perhaps things would have been different.

Do I find it odd that Saville first denied he’s ever been there? No not really. Here’s a scenario: In the Seventies at the height of his fame he goes to Jersey, as his front is “charitable works” it’s then plausible and possible that he arranged to go to the home, great publicity, and the chance to get one of the kids alone…It’s how these guys work. It doesn’t need complicity or connivance or the assistance of shadowy secretive societies, it’s just the sad, repulsive story of how one man worked out how to get to kids to do what he wanted with them whilst hiding in plain site. It’s largely how all they all do it.

It’s the one where Jimmy Savile denied ever visiting, then a photo of him there turned up.

Does that surprise you then ?

An (as yet undiscovered) predatory sex offender is asked if he ever visited a place that was, at the time, under investigation for child abuse, and he denied it.

I don’t see why that would be a surprise to anyone really.

An (as yet undiscovered) predatory sex offender is asked if he ever visited a place that was, at the time, under investigation for child abuse, and he denied it.

There’s another even more mundane explanation – 35 years after the visit he could genuinely have forgotten, he was after all nearly 80 at that point.

It’s possible, but Savile was also a compulsive bullshitter, fantasist and liar, too.

I’m not saying they’re not hoaxed, but there are interesting parallels between what’s written and world events…

Well, if you’re a dyspeptic antisemite, then yes.

How does Savile never having been arrested intersect with the fact that practically none of the other legion of abusers that existed were arrested at the time, despite not having the fame or (in truth) fairly tangential relationships with royalty that Savile had? Is it a) because there was a global conspiracy to protect illuminati sex abusers or b) because the police and prosecutors were bleeding abysmal at investigating and prosecuting child abusers regardless of who they are? Is there actually a significant difference in the rate of nonprosecution for child sex offences between the powerful and the meek?

What about domestic abuse? Practically no one rich, famous or powerful was ever convicted of domestic abuse before the last decade, and even then those that have been are surely only the tip of the iceberg. Why not? Is that because there is a global illuminati conspiracy to protect domestic abusers* or because police, prosecutors and courts are only now getting half decent at prosecuting them?

And how, going back to the purple bellend triangle power structure diagram, can the UK monarchy and the pope be at the top? What happens in the parts of the world – Africa, the Middle East and the rest of Asia for example – where the Catholic Church and the Windsors don’t actually play a significant role?

* there is a global conspiracy to do this – it’s called patriarchy

It’s possible, but Savile was also a compulsive bullshitter, fantasist and liar, too.

Definitely, and personally I think it’s more likely he lied, but forgetfulness is also a possibility. And far more likely than a lizard-based cover-up.

The lizards MADE him forget, obviously.

Let me ask you a question. Your “experts” are OK, right? but any other “experts” that have a different view from yours…they’re in on it, right?

Herein lies the major problem with many such conspiracyloonery. Anything that doesn’t tally with the perceived truth is instantly a part of that which has led to the belief in that perceived truth, and so it goes round and round…..

What happens in the parts of the world – Africa, the Middle East and the rest of Asia for example – where the Catholic Church and the Windsors don’t actually play a significant role

Though to some extent you have a point about the influence of the Catholic Church in some locations, (even though roughly 1 in 7 people in Africa come under the Catholic faith, a higher ratio than the UK) it does have many branches across the Middle East and Asia.

History shows Britain has been active across Africa, the Middle East and Asia since way back.

Slavery, the Crusades and the Opium wars are examples of this.

Of course, along with Operation Ajax in Iran in the 1950s, more recently, we have the invasions into Iraq and Afghanistan, not to mention the covert drone activity in other countries which escapes media attention.

It’s no coincidence it’s known as HM Government, not ‘The Peoples’ Government.

Does anyone know how many countries still have the Queen on their banknotes?

(I don’t know the answer myself, but it will doubtless show the power of the monarchy still spreads far beyond these shores)

not to mention the covert drone activity in other countries which escapes media attention.

Are they part of the peadophile cover up then ?

The one that’s central to the power of the political and religious elite ?

Are you getting confused.

Might help if you could focus a bit.

Are you getting confused.

I’m not confused, are you?

Does anyone know how many countries still have the Queen on their banknotes?

about 15-20? maybe…Including some horrifically powerful countries such as the Isle of Man, New Zealand, Canada, Austrailia Fiji? (I’m guessing)

….they have something in common….common, common…..wealth

I’m done, going to hoover my car, Henry doesn’t give me this sort of grief.

I’m not confused, are you?

Well yes actually, I’m confused what these covert drones have got to do with your pet theory about global peadophile cover up being central the power of the religious and political elite.

Can you explain please.

Does anyone know how many countries still have the Queen on their banknotes?

(I don’t know the answer myself, but it will doubtless show the power of the monarchy still spreads far beyond these shores)

So, are you saying that Jane Austen is also in on it? Dickens, perhaps?

Or, what about Nellie Melba, eh?

More twaddle, I’m afraid.

Dickens, perhaps?

Dickens almost certainly visited the victorian equivalent of care homes while researching Oliver Twist, so there’s definitely a link there.

…..the power of the monarchy still spreads far beyond these shores

That really did make me laugh out loud ! 😆

Keep them coming honeyjive ! 🙂

‘m confused what these covert drones have got to do with your pet theory about global peadophile cover up being central the power of the religious and political elite.

Well look at this, what does it remind you of?

That’s right, it’s based on JHJs schematic:

This drone is powered by a solid core of pure pederasty.

Edit, maybe that’s what they did with Jimmy Saville’s body!

Well yes actually, I’m confused what these covert drones have got to do with your pet theory about global peadophile cover up being central the power of the religious and political elite.

Can you explain please.

Gladly, easy peasy

Coercion and blackmail by the intelligence services and party whips steers policy to authorize these actions.

Religion helps create an us and them mindset to help justify such actions

The media avoids drawing attention to these matters due to dubious moral grounds.

So, are you saying that Jane Austen is also in on it? Dickens, perhaps?

Or, what about Nellie Melba, eh?

More twaddle, I’m afraid.

Nice to know you’re self regulating, saves me calling you out on your twaddle 😉

Funny how many Tax havens are under the jurisdiction of the Crown…

2 that spring to mind are:

Cayman Islands

and

Jersey

(the wealthiest, which has many links with the worlds no.1 financial centre, the City of London)

I wonder how many others are under the crowns jurisdiction?

Funny how many Tax havens are under the jurisdiction of the Crown…

Is it? I don’t think it is, really. I think it’s just a fact. Which, coming from you, might be a first.

But, what about Nevada, Wyoming, Delaware? Or Switzerland, perhaps?

I’m sure they’re all nonces as well, aren’t they?

I’m a bit confused by the masons happily taking orders from the Vatican. I don’t know about other parts of the world, but in Scotland masonic lodges are generally regarded as protestant affairs and Catholics are not welcome.

(This bigotry has calmed down over recent years, but you still don’t see many Celtic shirts!)

Also are you really suggesting that Iraq and Afghanistan were invaded so people could abuse children??

I’m a bit confused by the masons happily taking orders from the Vatican. I don’t know about other parts of the world, but in Scotland masonic lodges are generally regarded as protestant affairs and Catholics are not welcome.

They’re a sneaky bunch and no mistake!!

Also are you really suggesting that Iraq and Afghanistan were invaded so people could abuse children??

Not at all, I’m saying that the profitable actions of instigating and committing to war in those Nations were set in motion with the help of coercion on abusers.

Coercion and blackmail by the intelligence services and party whips steers policy to authorize these actions.

You will have evidence of that I presume ?

That child abuse related blackmail was used to steer the decision to authorise the use of covert drones.

You must have surely, otherwise you wouldn’t state it as a fact.

They’re a sneaky bunch and no mistake!!

And the Pope probably isn’t even a Catholic.

The Orange order Masonic lodges are really paedo networks for the Pope – Like graham I remain a wee bit cynical on that one- comedy gold mind.

And the Pope probably isn’t even a Catholic.

His wife is, though.

Wow there Flashy, a heterosexual catholic priest, is a step too far, even for Jive

Well, I say “wife”, but his name is Bernard.

Nice reference to Nursie – keep it character eh

I’m saying that the profitable actions…

I read that as profiterole actions! I thought you were trying to implicate dairy filled baked goods into the grand conspiracy.

All about the detail, Junky. 😀

And the Pope probably isn’t even a Catholic.

No, but he does shit in the woods.

No, but he does shit in the woods.

Only with some alter boys to hold up his dress

some alter boys

Pre or post op?

bit of both really, I heard he like to mix it up a bit though don’t tell anyone I told you.

bit of both really, I heard he like to mix it up a bit though don’t tell anyone I told you.

I thought it was well known that there were well known rumours that it was well known that someone once heard that it was well known.

no the well known ones were about the other fellow, you know the one. In those photos with other people and the like

Interesting reference to Masons in this 5Live interview
Skip to 6:15 if you just want to hear the Masons reference.