Boris Johnson!

It’s somewhat ironic I suppose,  that Tory MPs got want they wanted at their work by withdrawing their labour.

I’d put money on a Johnson contact having registered a new party this week, and him officially joining it in the last week of him being PM.

I was just mooching around one of the more…. different…. forums. The sort of place with plenty of turn the refugees back in the sea/deport them/cancel all foreign aid/EU are the enemy posters.

Theres certainly support for him out there, and its all the medias fault, they hounded him out if power. So I suspect hed get enough membership sign ups to make a decent amount of money.

Just read a piece from Peston that suggests that the website to pledge support/get information etc for Rishi Sunak’s bid to become PM was registered last December.

Just read a piece from Peston that suggests that the website to pledge support/get information etc for Rishi Sunak’s bid to become PM was registered last December.

And to think he was drafted in by Johnson as a yes-man 🙂

Has Johnson definitely actually submitted his resignation? I know he ‘said’ he was going to do it in his speech, but I’m wondering whether he would delay the letter to try to push the initial part of the leadership contest past the beginning of the summer recess.

Has Johnson definitely actually submitted his resignation? I know he ‘said’ he was going to do it in his speech, but I’m wondering whether he would delay the letter to try to push the initial part of the leadership contest past the beginning of the summer recess.

As I understand it, it’s out of his hands now

1922 committee set the timetable and once they’ve picked a new leader he’s automatically fired

Hopefully they have something in writing. He’s a slippery ****.

He’s manifestly angling to still defeat his party opponents and remain as their leader.

I think this is what he’s attempting(in his head) short term but i’d be surprised if plan B isn’t to establish a new party closer to the election if he can’t over throw his opponents and remain PM within the Tory party

The problem with the tories chucking him out is that it plays to the ‘will of people’ narrative used by him to gain him the premiership.

If they’d have called an election(0% chance)rather than letting a small number of people decide the next pm then the ‘will of the people’ would not be so effective.

I don’t think BJ’s particularly worried about the Tory party they are just another thing to f*** over on his journey in life doing what he wants.

Even if his new party fails he will pocket the membership fees and carry on living his life on expenses.

Hopefully they have something in writing.

LOL

The only useful thing in having it on paper is that if you run out of Andrex you have something on hand to wipe yer arse.

International treaties and the law don’t apply here anymore.

Which will be some of the BJ land mines/booby traps the new PM will have to skilfully negotiate or not they may just run with it but more foot to the pedal.

We will just have to wait and see.

I sort of hope he stays in No10 by force and does as much damage as he can to whatever he can as it can all be laid at the feet of the Conservative Party for not removing him immediately. We need to think of the long-term picture now, making it virtually impossible for the next generation or three to even think about voting for them in the future.

Can you imagine the scenes and headlines if at the next General Election the Conservatives don’t even manage to get enough seats to be the opposition? It would be amazing however very unlikely.

The problem is that Johnson playing the will of the people nonsense channels those that fall for it down the gutter into the trump/qanon conspiracy space

There’s already plenty of the far-riggt, antivax, covid-denying, pre-brexit overlap

Culture war is very effective but long term it’s corrosive

I can’t see sunak’s comment that ‘tax cuts must wait’ playing well with most tory mps.
Furlough support will be seen as…that was then, this is now as most people are concerned about current and future circumstances not the past.
Reports that his campsign website has been ready for months will be used against him.
Add into the mix his personal wealth which will lead to accusations that he has no understanding of the increasing financial pressures facing more and more people.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t make the last two.

The problem with the tories chucking him out is that it plays to the ‘will of people’ narrative used by him to gain him the premiership.

See my earlier reference to “stab in the back”, Germany 1930’s.

If Johnson create another party he loses a voc in the hoc and thus is no longer pm. Unless he takes enough mps to remove the tory majority the tories just pick another leader who becomes pm

BBC now quoting “Downing Street” and “Number 10” throwing shade at possible future PMs. Time for them to grow some balls and tell us WHO is saying this stuff. This deniable briefing approach needs to end. Who said it. What is their role. Why should we listen to a word they say.

Might dilute the Tory vote a bit a the next GE as Ukip once did. Be ironic if the man they thought would unite the party ends up destroying it’s position in the polls.

If Johnson create another party he loses a voc in the hoc and thus is no longer pm.

He’s PM till he goes to the Queen to resign.

But my new party thought wasn’t about holding on longer as PM, it was about the record showing that Johnson finished his time as PM under that new party’s banner… giving it a big launch event… their PM is “undemocratically” ousted, and the campaign to return him to his throne begins. Just an idle thought yesterday, but it’s an option for him. The whole “that party” line when he was talking about the Conservatives wanting him to stand down had me thinking about it, that’s all. A new party could be a good grifting opportunity, and a way to build and show off his public support to the party that rejected him. A “you can’t win without me” ego trip.

“Time for them to grow some balls and tell us WHO is saying this stuff. This deniable briefing approach needs to end”

If they did that then Newsnight would be over in 10 minutes and Newscast would have no content at all.

This deniable briefing approach needs to end. Who said it. What is their role. Why should we listen to a word they say.

Yup it is poisonous. It was quite telling that Lord McDonald could have just given some pointers about the case to a friendly journalist but instead wrote the letter since he disagreed with this anonymous source approach and felt it should have his name clearly attached.

But my new party thought wasn’t about holding on longer as PM, it was about the record showing that Johnson finished his time as PM under that new party’s banner… giving it a big launch event…

That’s not how it works though.

Tories are the majority party, their leader is PM. The PM can’t change party and remain in office. It’s not a presidential system, we don’t (technically) elect a PM.

The PM can’t change party and remain in office.

That is the convention. There is a reason why I suggested he could do it “in his last week” as PM. He wouldn’t be “caretaker PM” for very long at all if he pulled that move. Everyone would be made aware of the new party name though, it would be a huge world event launching the party.

It’s possible in a Trump-style desperate ladt throw of the dice but I think unlikely.

He can try it, but Sri Lanka is demonstrating the potential risk quite nicely

He’s PM till he goes to the Queen to resign.

Or a new leader of the largest party in parliament is elected leader then he’s out by automatic operation of the constitution!

I’ve seen more elegant prolapses.

We’ve missed an opportunity

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-62108597

Or a new leader of the largest party in parliament is elected leader then he’s out by automatic operation of the constitution!

You’ll have to point me to that bit of the constitution that happens “automatically”.

Yes its up to her maj, who will invite the new leader of the largest etc. to become her Prime Minister. It doesn’t require Johnson to resign, but I am not sure if her maj needs to sack him or just appoint someone else. Maybe he has some fancy seal or something in his possession which he needs to hand over.

Yup, the Queen can appoint a new PM anytime, and then the current PM loses their position. That is supposed to occur after a PM resigns or is made unavailable, but if Johnson didn’t resign she could still act. Not a good look for anyone that though. In this fantasy new party scenario, which I wish I hadn’t openly pondered about now… Johnson could be PM under the banner of this new party ‘till he resigned or the Queen appointed a new PM. Would be big international news, and a big attention grabbing way to launch a new party. Would probably also result in people calling for a more formal constitution to be put in place, to protect the country/monarch from such embarrassment in future.

Sorry if already posted …

“everybody needs to shut up”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-62100209

A councillor who says he was groped by former deputy chief whip Chris Pincher, says he was told by a colleague to hold off talking about it after an instruction from Conservative Party headquarters. https://t.co/s1RcNsWeWF

— Ione Wells (@ionewells) July 8, 2022

In this fantasy new party scenario, which I wish I hadn’t openly pondered about now

Dunno we really don’t know what’s going to play out, but it was weird what he said when he didn’t resign.

I don’t think he has to do it whilst In office, there is no election due until a few years so it can wait a while,whilst the poison chalice takes effect on the the replacement PM/Tory party.

Gives him a while to get the graphics done on the new bus.

I think he’ll be off for a free months holiday in someone’s Caribbean house when he finally goes 🙂

Did we do this yet?

I think he’ll be off for a free months holiday in someone’s Caribbean house when he finally goes

I’ll be on his freebie holiday island at the end of the month.
Please tell me he won’t be ruining my holiday.

I think he’ll be off for a free months holiday in someone’s Caribbean house when he finally goes

Italian luxury castle shirley? 😉

Nah, he’s a lame duck now and an embarrassment to be seen with so he will be dead to Two Beards. He got his title in any case, so doesn’t need to be nice to Johnson any more.

Although the blackmail potential might still be useful.

Plenty of party kompromat from the Ledbeddedevevs I’m sure.

Both of these things are so on brand

EXCLUSIVE: Boris Johnson lobbied for a public role for a young woman who says he abused his power to have a sexual relationship with her

The PM was confronted at the height of the #MeToo movement in 2017, when she told him she was still “shaken and upset”https://t.co/FZtujTL2D1 pic.twitter.com/h85BlqHRNw

— Gabriel Pogrund (@Gabriel_Pogrund) July 9, 2022

Crikey – Boris is planning to put Nadine Dorries in the House of Lords according to ⁦@ShippersUnbound⁩ pic.twitter.com/8rcEUGi9UO

— Tony Diver (@Tony_Diver) July 9, 2022

We’ve missed an opportunity

Still time for the economy here to get us to that stage

Italian luxury castle shirley? 😉

You do know Evgeney Lebedev’s dog is called Boris?

You do know Evgeney Lebedev’s dog is called Boris?

Lapdog?