- Anybody ridden the 650b Five yet?
I’d be surprised if it rides just the same. They’ve shifted the bottom of the seat tube forwards (with a shallower angle) and made the chainstays a bit longer to accommodate the larger wheel (so much for there being no difference between 26″ and 650b). So, even if the wheels themselves make no difference those changes must have some effect. But it would be good to hear from somebody that has actually ridden one. That Monday morning debrief is a start (thanks). So, it climbs better than a Patriot 66 ! That’s a relief 🙂Posted 4 years ago
You’re a marketing dept’s wet dream
On the contrary, I’m highly suspicious about the 650b wheels themselves making a difference. It wouldn’t surprise me if the 650b Five feels a bit more stable than the older model, but that’s just because the chainstays are a bit longer. Actually I don’t have a dog in this fight at all. I’m still trying to decide whether I prefer 26″ or 29ers 🙂Posted 4 years ago
Orange did good work on making the 29er ride, basically, like a Five should. So I reckon the 650b one will be similiar, instead of obsessing about chainstay millimetres etc they’ll have just made an overall package that does the same job as the 26er one in a slightly different way.
b45her – Member
why else would dan atherton choose not to ride the new tweener GT force and instead ride a 26″ wheeled prototype?
Eh, Affy’s proto is a 650b, according to Pinkbike and Steve Jones anyway… The main differences are the geometry, he doesn’t like the production model. It’s his teammate that’s on the 26er.Posted 4 years ago
So I reckon the 650b one will be similiar, instead of obsessing about chainstay millimetres etc they’ll have just made an overall package that does the same job as the 26er one in a slightly different way.
Although, in order to do that, they probably had to give some thought to how long the chainstays should be 🙂 But I take your point. It’s the overall package that matters and no one number is that important. In fact, the more I test and ride 26″ and 29ers the less interested I become in the wheel size. It always seems to be the least important thing when comparing two bikes and only matters at all because of the other changes that are made to accommodate it. Regardless of what size wheels it has the new Five is just the latest evolution of the model. I’m just interested to know what direction that evolution took.Posted 4 years agofodmtbguidesMember
I have ridden the 650b and compared to my five I found :
When you first get on feels very much like a normal five.Posted 4 years ago
Climbs better, it is 3lbs lighter then my 2012 model.
Rolling speed is quicker ( slightly)
As with the five, when this go downhill or technical it comes alive.
Loved the 1×11 setup
Hated the avids
Stealth dropper is a nice touchwlMember
I’ve heard very good stuff about them, and I believe it. Didn’t stop me buying one of the last 26″ Fives though, just because chuckability and fun-factor were a priority for me, not just speed. Plus, on some of our more techy local trails even a 26″ wheel can seem like a very tight squeeze. The 26″ Five is amazing, and the 650b almost certainly is too, just slightly different. Think I’m right in saying there’s a great-looking 650b Five demo bike available for hire at Blazing Saddles in Hebden.Posted 4 years ago
Eh, Affy’s proto is a 650b, according to Pinkbike and Steve Jones anyway… The main differences are the geometry, he doesn’t like the production model. It’s his teammate that’s on the 26er.
GT themselves said he was on a 26″ prototype for the WES races in the new force launch article.
“Dan Atherton, the spear point of GT’s Enduro team, swore off 650B wheels at first, but after helping to dial in the geometry and ride of the new 150-millimeter-travel Force, he changed his mind. Atherton says, however, that he will continue to develop the 26-inch wheel prototype enduro GT he uses on the racing circuit.”Posted 4 years ago
I like the swingarm stickers. Not sure about the rest. But man, that’s an unflattering photo (orange seem to have dropped the ball a wee bit with the official PR shots too, lots of boring colours etc. Neon orange or GTFO.
(ok, my Orange is boring blue and white but that’s still better than John Major Grey)Posted 4 years agoesselgruntfuttockMember
I’d assume as Orange (despite their profile) aren’t the biggest bike manufacturer on Earth, if there’s demand for 26″ bikes, they can soon make them.
Spot on! ‘Oy Bert, get them old 26″ jigs out the cupboard will ya, the 650’s & 29ers are out this year, & tell Joe Barnes & Guy Martin just so they know’Posted 4 years ago
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