650b+ (and other plus sizes if you like) – rim, tyre, frame, fork combinations,

If anybody is thinking about a NN 2.8 you might want to have a look in the classifieds 😉

What forks are ppl running these 2.8″ to 3″ on? Does it need to be plus specific or will 29er forks work?

The narrower tyres run on standard RS forks and Fox are a bit wider. Rim width affects them obviously, but a 45mm Dually with WTB TB tyre fits easily in Revelations. Have you read further up this thread – lots of info.

Ryu – why are you getting rid of the nic………assuming boxelder has already sent you the money naturally 😉

I’ve sent nowt……..dish it

So before i had the NN on ,ive always tried to have matching brands when it comes to tyres. Previous to the schwalbes i had a purgatory and a ground control 3.0 but didn’t feel happy with the clearance but did like the grip of the purgatory which i think is a better option for a front .so what i have done is ordered a 3.0 NN from merlin in trailstar compound. just got back from a quick blast and im happy with it ,so i have a 2.8 NN spare .Hope all that make sense

@boxelder haven’t received any mail

bungalistic – Member
What forks are ppl running these 2.8″ to 3″ on? Does it need to be plus specific or will 29er forks work?

I’ve yet to find a 3″ tyre on a 25mm id rim that wont fit in a standard 29er pike.

As a very random thing but since the NN looks more like a mud tyre than most other b+ tyres, has anyone got a Bonty Mud or similar that they could picture next to a NN?

ryu1720 – it bounced back from the address in your profile (maybe I edited incorrectly). I was asking if it was one or a pair, but see it’s one, so I’ll leave it (thought I sniffed a bargain pair :oops:). Got a pair arriving from Germany.

Have you read further up this thread – lots of info

I have now 🙂 how are folk finding the tight clearance in the muddy conditions?

I’ve got a 2.8 trailblazer and a 2.8 vee Trax fatty that’s surplus to requirements now.

alexhayes1981 at gmail .com

Apologies for minor hijack.

Hey Guys

I’ve got WTB 2.8 trailblazer’s on My Charge Cooker which is 2 months old and just had my first puncture on the front.
I had hell of a job getting the tyre off and then back on again with my Specialized EMT MTB tyre levers which when used on my 2.2 29er tyres are a piece of cake to get off.

What do you guys use??

My 2.8 Nobby nic just arrived. It’s a fair bit bigger than a trailblazer IMO. Here are some pics mounted tubeless on an i35 in a 2012-ish revelation. It is pretty marginal, and if it stretches it will definitely rub. The side knobs are slightly higher than the narrowest point of the fork. I can stick it in a pike if anyone is interested. Looks a decent tyre, but I think it is going to be too big…

Untitled by Soph and Ian[/url], on Flickr

Untitled by Soph and Ian[/url], on Flickr

Here it is in comparison to a trailblazer on an i29:
Untitled by Soph and Ian[/url], on Flickr

Tyres measures, bead to bead laid flat:
Panaracer FBN, 3.5″ (used and stretched) = 190mm
N Nic 2.8 (new, unstretched) = 168mm

N Nic comes up bigger than TB, but fits the Rev forks better than the FBN (on 45mm rim)
N Nic went up easily tubeless too, unlike the Panaracer.

N Nic comes up bigger than TB

Nobby Nic 2.8 by multispeedstu[/url], on Flickr

69mm. by multispeedstu[/url], on Flickr

Both mounted on a Scraper.
TB has now stretched to 71mm so I’d say they’re pretty much the same size as each other on a 45mm rim.

OK, but I was referring to tread width. The bit that gives the contact patch. Volume/height are very similar.

Volume/height are very similar.

Agreed.

Just finished my 650b+ build- Zealous Division Mk2 with i35s on ProIIs with WTB TB tyres. This setup up has masses of mud clearance at the back. The revelation has plenty of clearance too.

Out on mine tonight

I reckon the FatBNimbles aren’t quite up to handling the current level of slop.

Ordered a NN 2.8 last week from http://www.bike-components.de
Emailed today to say no stock until well into next year.

Anywhere else got stock of NN 2.8?

looking good Cokie.

Bad luck Variflex. My 2.8 Nic (ordered 3rd) has shipped. I’ll report clearance on Pike and Yelli Screamy when I get it.

Slam69 had some posted on their FB page

Super thanks BigH – Slam69 came up trumps 🙂

I didn’t feel the love for plus in the current conditions. I’ll try again in the spring but I’ve reverted back to 29″ for now.

Liking the zealous division, but I’m not sold on the trailblazer as a front tyre

Late to the thread so apologies if this has been done already but someone on MTBR has done a Fattie conversion on a 2015 Spesh Enduro

http://forums.mtbr.com/specialized/official-specialized-enduro-thread-776419-68.html#post12307536

I didn’t feel the love for plus in the current conditions. I’ll try again in the spring but I’ve reverted back to 29″ for now.

I was in a similar position a week ago. I loved the B+ setup on my Solaris when I first tried it a few months back, but recently in the winter slop I’ve just not been enjoying it and had reverted back to my Smuggler 29er.

Then, last week, it really was too grotty for me to want to take the Smuggler out on a night ride, so I grabbed the Solaris from the shed. I hadn’t touched it for a while and the tyres had obviously lost some air. Checking it when I got back I was actually running around 7psi. But it felt really good in the slop at that pressure. Right up until I tried to loft the front over a pothole and felt the rear rim slam into the edge of the hole! I had to back off a bit after that, which runined the fun a bit, but I wonder if there is some magic pressure that would work in the current conditions.

Ultimately though, I’m thinking that procore might be a better solution for me. The B+ wheels are heavier than my 29er wheels so 29er plus procore shouldn’t be any heavier than B+. You can still run the low pressures but without the risk of damaging the rim and a 29er with a decent width rim would still give plenty of volume I guess. Plus, of course, you’ve got a full range of tyres to play with.

I’ll be interested to see how the trailblazers cope with the snow (which can’t be far off now) though.

Given my experience with fatbikes I reckon Plus will be fine once we get the right tyres. We need a 3″ Nate.

I am building a set of 29er wheels for my Pact too though.

Im no expert as Im very new to the whole thing, but I feel you just cut your cloth accordingly.
I ride in the FoD which has it’s fair share of mud to say the least. So what if my tyres aren’t optimum for slop, the moments when I get superb rollability on the good bits more than make up. Plus it gives me a good excuse to ride like a girl down steep stuff that should be better left for dryer conditions 🙂
I just love the way you can ride off piste over stuff that leave others struggling. Anyhow, im running purgatorys front and rear and they’re good enough for me..ehem..until maxxis release the rekon

Why on earth anyone would run the trailblazer as a front tyre for anything other than a bike packing style bike is beyond me. Look at the tread pattern on it?! That Zealous, although it looks nice, seems a bit pointless if the bike is ridden as it was designed. A higher volume tyre doesn’t suddenly defy all previously known grip levels. I’m going to guess that a tyre with a properly meaty loose condition tread pattern and carcass would weigh a ‘kin ton. Think there was someone on mtbr saying the dirt wizard, which appears to be the most aggressive at the moment as far as I can see, comes in at 1300g. Looking forward to getting the chubby nics on my hardtail but they’re not going to be holy grail of grip in all conditions.

I’d proved to myself that for the type of riding I use my ht for, it’s quicker as a 29″. It feels more lively and it digs into slop.

That said I always thought i was having more fun on the 27.5+!

I’ve just moved the wide rimmed wheels onto the bike I use for uplift/fun days out, so I still have the option to go back to this set up in the spring.

@alex
Same here, as much as I like my codeine in plus size format it is an awful lot of bike for the majority of riding that I do and coupled with the fact that the wheels are in a frame not specifically designed for them, and for that reason I’m going to put them in a frame better suited to them a long low slack steel hardtail!!

Given my experience with fatbikes I reckon Plus will be fine once we get the right tyres. We need a 3″ Nate.

Just received a 3″ Nobby Nic from Merlin and its not far off! I think these merlin tyres must be an early batch as quite a few of the centre threads on mine are a little under-formed (small depressions in the centre or edge).

Just need to decide which bike to run 27+ on, the fat bike, or the 29er. Not sure the 29er will clear 3″ tyres 😕

Cool! It was likely to be that or a Purgatory

Agreed. Received mine today and it looks like it could be just the ticket. All I need now are some wheels to mount it on 😕

^^ got wheels need tyres!

@gotama
Superstar components are doing a special on tesla/ryde trace enduro wheel builds today 29mm id rims for £235

Thanks but I have some i35 on hope coming from just riding along. I’m also waiting on the forks from Loco so in honest I’m short of more than just wheels 🙂 Once I get the wheels though i will probably stick them in my Prime for a giggle. That said I’m missing a 2.8 Nic as well 😉

Lol just checked your profile e-mail 😉 It should be with you today or Monday I reckon ,let me know if there’s any problems. Hopefully will be picking up my new bigwig frame tonight will post some pics if I get time over the weekend.

No worries, I was only joking. Bigwig should be a lot of fun.