posting this on various FB post is quite entertaining
Oh, I’ve just spotted face masks are available again at screwfix
those who were truthful have no interest in returning to work while the govt pays them out at 80%… but thats not going to last, we just cant afford it.
We'll all be home again in around 6 weeks when the next spike trundles through and lays waste to another 20000 lives.
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audio on that comes from another video of a guy shouting at romanians down in allison street about a month ago I'm sure.
Tis a fine message mind! 😆
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Oh yes definitely qualified
I don't know why but:
Oh hell yes, can we get someone shouting 'i am cornholio' when he goes outside
Nice fireplace and chandelier!! What a ****!!
It's not his though. Technically it is all of ours.
**** all of detail so far though
He's putting it off until tomorrow, basically so he can judge public opinion and tweak things to suit.
In other words he doesn't have a ****ing clue what he's doing.
Thursday, Suns out guns out.
So we can drive places for exercise?
Does that mean we can go on holiday to bike park Wales?
He just said you can go drive somewhere for unlimited exercise, really?!? Did I hear that right?
Reception, year 1 and year 6 as the first ones back?
Are they ****ing stupid, year 1 and reception would be impossible to social distance
Herd immunity it is then
He just said you can go drive somewhere for unlimited exercise, really?!? Did I hear that right?
yes, he did say that.
15 minutes of windbaggery.
He truly is utterly useless; potentially dangerous.
R number on it's way up.
You lot in England are screwed! Do us a favour and stay out of the other bits of the UK, everything's closed anyway.
Boris is going to have a lot of blood on his hands come the end of this.
Why from Wednesday? What's different about tomorrow and Tuesday?
His plan for Great Britain (except Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland). So, England then.
It’s down to employers then. Good luck!
It is going to be very revealing as to who the shit ones to work for are.
my place isn't looking at anything close to normal until next year, reduced occupancy and wfh for the forseeable.
He's shot his bolt a bit early.
I can practically hear people packing their bags to set off our for 'unlimited exercise' right now, tomorrow morning will be carnage!
+1 Graham
Reception and Year 1 .... Madness.
So nothing changes immediately except unlimited outdoor exercise.
The rest is a plan, subject to things being under control.
So the important question is, did all that mean I can or cannot take my KTM out?
How many bosses are watching this wondering what the **** tomorrow will look like having this sprung on them.
subject to things being under control.
Or we are back in lockdown. If it goes up, we get locked down again. A human experiment.
Won't be long until the infection rate goes up again then I suspect.
already seeing tons of posts on Facebook from people saying they are off paddling and driving places to do exercise
So - driving to the mountains for unlimited exercise from tomorrow or Wednesday?
He just said you can go drive somewhere for unlimited exercise, really?!? Did I hear that right?
yes, he did say that.
Looks like DH is on for sure
https://twitter.com/TheSmackDaddyUK/status/1259548415630946309?s=20
Can we exercise with family members not from our house?
Can we exercise with family members not from our house?
No. But I bet people will
No I think not
Unleash the people - it's going to crack the resolve of small businesses if they see crowds of people milling about. For the ones that are open - how are you going to manage to prevent locusting local stores. Is he trying to force a polite revolution against his own controls?
Omni shambles.
Has he now downgraded the over all impact of the virus - think he said in his life time.
Nice touch putting the get back to work emphasis on the employees - continuing the workshy narrative. Wonder how many small businesses are going - erm - oh heck.
Why does that graphic show R=1 as the peak? Wasn't R at well over 3 or 4 at one point and we've got it back down to ~1 with all the social distancing and restrictions?
So everyone is going to flood to national parks this week I guess.
He just said you can go drive somewhere for unlimited exercise, really?!? Did I hear that right?
Yes, but not Wales or Scotland, dont go there.
Hope lots of people have their tyres pumped up to go to work in the morning!!
Not looking forward to the commute tomorrow with all those people encouraged to be out in their cars, the 55 minute journey was down to 25 mins due to lack of traffic
Stay home, let me get to work and back more quickly
Well imho Boris has made a right **** up tonight .....
unlimited exercise .... I don’t have a problem with that
BUT
Allowing folks to drive unlimited distance to do it 😡... God help the Lakes, Dales and Coastal resorts etc
Encourage folks to go to work if they can’t work from home and it’s safe to do so ....O.K
But
What about all the small business owners who don’t get a mention 😡
And don’t even get me started on the new ****in slogan
Stay Alert 😡.... **** Off
Stick with
Stay Home
Protect the NHS
Save Lives
Not looking forward to the commute tomorrow with all those people encouraged to be out in their cars, the 55 minute journey was down to 25 mins due to lack of traffic
Guess we'll now get an answer to how much of an impact air pollution has on people developing more serious symptoms.
Madness. How on earth can they police unlimted drive for unlimited exercise at the scottish and welsh borders. Are we going to see places like glentress being besieged by people from south of the border? Its all still shut!!
Nice of Boris to offer England up as an experiment to watch the infection rate rise again.
Glad Nicola came on just after that in Scotland and said....don't be daft and very little of that applies to Scotland.
How long till we have people from England turning up to ride glentress. Glad there's little reason for them to head this far north.
Interesting to follow and seems they’re offering conditional hope at the same time as caution, also from the top of my head mirrors France.
Different to Wales, we’re still “Stay at Home” only go out if you have to, no unnecessary journeys, but at the same time if you fancy a couple of potted plants or an over-priced BBQ you can go to the garden centre, because apparently whilst I thought they were social clubs for the Middle Class Elderly, they provide a vital service that somehow cannot be provided by the Super Markets.
I don’t know how to feel, on one hand I’m glad we’re (at the moment) on the down slope, I did fancy a ride at Cwmcarn next weekend but on the other I know it would be a total cluster at first.
Great....Britain.
Thanks Boris, I'll be working on ITU for another few months then.
I expect a lot of emails will be flying about telling people NOT to go to work tomorrow!!!
We've endured a half-arsed lockdown that wasn't strong enough to significantly impact deaths but was strong enough to tank the economy.
Now people are fed up and I think basically the lockdown is effectively over now and will become unenforceable. I think constantly changing goalposts won't go down well with the public.
The tabloids have basically declared lockdown 'over' while the message from government is vague. I think there's going to be hell to pay.
Why does that graphic show R=1 as the peak? Wasn’t R at well over 3 or 4 at one point and we’ve got it back down to ~1 with all the social distancing and restrictions?
Full lockdown threshold, above R1 and its back to the beginning
I was trying to process all the guff coming out his mouth but didn't hear him say we could drive wherever we wanted to exercise. I just heard him say we could exercise as much as we wanted, with family.
Is a transcript available anywhere yet so we can verify the different versions we all think we heard?
Not claiming to be right, just saying what I thought I heard.
How many bosses are watching this wondering what the **** tomorrow will look like having this sprung on them.
I daren't go & look at my phone.
I expect a UK board & leadership team meeting will be in full flow by 8am 😆
Never a dull moment.
that wasn’t strong enough to significantly impact deaths b
It was half arsed ...but you think it didn't impact the numbers ?
but didn’t hear him say we could drive wherever we wanted to exercise.
He did, I missed it but rewound the Sky live feed after reading it here to confirm it.
I can ride my MTB from home, so will continue to do so. No need to drive. We wont be back in work until late August. It apparently will take upto 6 weeks to get all the building systems clean since being shut down.
Looking forward to johnson being eviscerated in the commons tomorrow by Starmer and Blackford.
Infection rate is up again in Germany and South Korea has ggad to reimpose some restrictions. Two countries generally considered to have done a good job.
God knows what the logic around reception and year 1 going back is, or year 6 for that matter. Would have thought year 5 should have been a priority along with 10 and 12 followed by 9.
Worst of both worlds, completely destroyed any coherent message about the lock down without properly reopenning the economy, so we'll have higher infection and ongoing damage to the economy, both feet, both barrels.
I'm welcoming the bigger fines for the tosspots though, although what are they and how will they be enforced?
For all the people saying they're doing it wrong, how would you have done it instead? What are the pitfalls? Benefit?
Driving to exercise is a mess up.
Police must be thinking mmmmmmm.
I did fancy a ride at Cwmcarn next weekend but on the other I know it would be a total cluster at first.
Cwmcarn, Afan, FOD etc will be rammed from the second they re-open until winter. I'll be avoiding them like the plague and heading to the remotest parts of the Beacons when we're allowed out again. Which a shame as I love hitting Cwmcarn, Afan and the FOD on a regular basis.
For all the people saying they’re doing it wrong, how would you have done it instead?
First....Not tell people to go to work in the morning, give at least a few days to plan.
I don't think they are doing it wrong really, just that his messaging is so confused that everyone seems to be interpreting it however they like.
I totally disagree with the reception and year 1 potentially going back in June
So, to summarise:
Get back to work, you plebs!
Everyone ready for the huge second spike in infections.
I’m going to do the polar opposite of what he’s suggesting, because all the bell ends are going to take that load of old bollocks as a green light to do what the **** they like.
how would you have done it instead?
Ummm, not 'leaked' to the right wing chattering monkey shit flingers in the press that we were going to change things before a sunny Bank holiday?
Just as a start...
Cwmcarn, Afan, FOD etc will be rammed from the second they re-open until winter. I’ll be avoiding them like the plague and heading to the remotest parts of the Beacons when we’re allowed out again. Which a shame as I love hitting Cwmcarn, Afan and the FOD on a regular basis.
I'm lucky to have a dry Epping forest nearby. I went yesterday with Junior and they had massive closely space concrete blocks at the entrance exits and across car parks, you can only get in by bike. I really hope it stays that way.
You lot in England are screwed! Do us a favour and stay out of the other bits of the UK, everything’s closed anyway.
I've formally declared my house an annexe of Scotland, will be following Nicola Sturgeon's advice.
*pours Laphroaig in tribute*
So, to summarise:
Get back to work, you plebs!
The depot I work in is going into furlough and being mothballed on Friday, they've told us it'll be a minimum of 6 weeks before they even think of re-opening it. Should be enough time for the second peak to make itself known and us all to be back at square 1.
So furlough payments stop tomorrow?
weeksy, it's the absence of clarity and consistency; plus an attempt to move from state imposed diktat to asking people to take personal responsibility.
Personal responsibility is open to interpretation and, by definition, will be inconsistent.
At an absolute minimum, johnson should have discussed and agreed a unified approach with the devolved leaders; he didn't.
On the plus side he didn't suggest drinking bleach.
For all the people saying they’re doing it wrong, how would you have done it instead? What are the pitfalls? Benefit?
A good question, frankly it seems a lot of people just think it’s wrong because Boris said it.
He’s just a figure head for a huge number of no doubt very talented people carefully tying to work out how to follow a line between half a million dead from Corona and a 21st century Great Depression and associated mental health epidemic.
Honestly I’d be more concerned about the line to the effect of “economically more dynamic” post-Covid. That rarely bodes well for the masses when it comes from a Tory. Expect reductions in employment protections and industry regulations.
A good question, frankly it seems a lot of people just think it’s wrong because Boris said it.
That seems to be the case
At an absolute minimum, johnson should have discussed and agreed a unified approach with the devolved leaders;
I'd assume in simple terms, they disagreed. But he's the boss so he gets the final say for 'us'
Nice of Boris to offer England up as an experiment to watch the infection rate rise again.
Petri dish UK - come the Brexit he'll be able to offer an expendable population with plenty of medical data and no pesky data privacy laws. It's a bold way to fill the nations coffers.
I’d assume in simple terms, they disagreed.
There seemed to be some stories circulating he hadn't or had deferred the meeting then let them know today. Allowing people to drive then gives the devolved governments a headache to sort out. Some might think that's trying to bring them to heel.
So a year to eighteen months of fluctuating lockdown restrictions and relaxings to push 'controlled' waves of patients through, then?
Basically herd immunity by another name?
Hoping to reduce the severity of necessary measures with testing if we can pull our fingers out and do it....?
Since this whole thing started, the answer to the question ‘well how would you have done it?’ Has been ‘well, not like that’
Not tell people to go to work in the morning, give at least a few days to plan.
He didn't say to go to work tomorrow.
I'm not sure if I'm more worried about what Boris said or what the social media world thinks he said
Driving to exercise was never banned, so this is just a slight relaxation of this.
Same with the 'sitting in a park' line - prior to today you could stop for a rest while exersising but going for a picnic wasn't allowed (although that didn't stop some people). Now that's being relaxed a bit too.
Given that the lowest risk area, and the easiest area to keep 2m away from other people, is probbably the outdoors, it makes sense this would be the first thing to 'open' back up.
Not much will change for me, I can still work from home so that won't change any time soon, I'll still do my local runs and rides, I won't be putting the MTB on the car at the weekend and going to ride an MTB spot 40 miles away.
How the general public will read this, is another matter - but I don't see the mass exodus to Snowdown/Cornwall/peak district etc like some seem to think will happen.
how would you have done it instead?
I would have done exactly what Germany did. I would have explained how serious the situation was, told people to avoid contacts and isolate themselves and devolved testing. I would have done this just as Merkel did on March 18, but we had the opportunity to do this at least a week earlier....
“It depends on every person. We are not condemned to passively accepting the spread of this virus…Whoever avoids unnecessary encounters helps all those who have to deal with more cases in hospitals every day.”
Boris’ Churchill moment was the second week in MARCH not May. He failed miserably.
I would have done exactly what Germany did
Which may have worked here, but may not? How will we know?
Since this whole thing started, the answer to the question ‘well how would you have done it?’
Got rid of Boris?
This weekend, with hindsight, was always going to be chaotic. When they shuffled the dates and the next 3 week review looked like falling on the eve of VE Day I thought it would be a recipe for disaster. Boris giddy on nostalgia goes off on one and a weekend of misunderstanding and social mixing ensues. It seemed perfectly reasonable to make the announcements after the weekend.
In reality shake it all about Boris turned up at PMQs causing confusion before the weekend. Briefing it out Boris did a stint before the weekend sowing more confusion. If you were dealing with a small child you might reasonable think they were being petulant. And then we get to today...
Short of removing team Boris it seems there was no to avoid chaos.