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Anyone here own a Farer or knowledge on them?  I’d heard the name before but saw one last night for the first time.

it looked & felt really well made, seems to have a decent movement but I was surprised at how reasonably priced it seemed to be.

This model:

https://farer.com/products/resolute


 
Posted : 29/06/2024 4:51 pm
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@edd Liking the GS.


 
Posted : 30/06/2024 11:31 am
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Finally got my first dive watch in 40 years. A Citizen ecodrive "Pepsi" style. Bargain price new and although I was worried about the size on my skinny wrist it feels great. Just need to get a shorter strap.

I used it wingfoiling in Weymouth last work and it survived multiple wipeouts.

It's the Eco-Drive Promaster 45mm Mens Watch.


 
Posted : 30/06/2024 11:46 am
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@eddiebaby - I bought something similar on sale a few months ago. Think mine is a 40mm tho. Really like it. Very light, easy to read and defo waterproof to ''pool depth' 🙂

@nobby - I keep seeing those on IG as well. There's a couple I really like, but I'd never heard of them before either. This one https://farer.com/products/lander is my current fav but I'm a sucker for that dial colour.


 
Posted : 30/06/2024 12:04 pm
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Sounds great @eddiebaby - any pics?

Further to my request for diver recommendations, I've researched further:

I narrowly missed out on this Squale Matic on Ebay for a great price. In hindsight, I think it was a bit shiny and retro for what I want:

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I discovered the Damasko Sub50

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I love the simplicity paired with unseen top quality features such as submarine steel, ceramic bearings in the bezel, and an in-house movement (rare at this price point)

Probably a bit too utilitarian and doesn't fully press my 'timeless design' buttons

I've loved the Ball Skindiver II for years:

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I love everything about it, but they are pricy. There are a couple on Chrono24 for £1400 which I could stretch to, but they are in China or Japan, and the VAT and duty makes it too much.

Finally, a curveball from microbrand Aera:

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Just within budget, and a wonderful balance of form and function Imo. The odd angle pic is to show the continuous curves inside and out. Domed sapphire, one-piece curved dial with hand-applied lume, Selita SW200 movement (par for the course in this price range) and 904l stainless steel (same as Rolex). Two straps. Masculine but not macho, distinctive but not flashy,  simple but not boring.

Based in UK with no quibble returns if it doesn't meet expectations.

Do you sense I've kind of decided?

I fully appreciate that everyone has different tastes and many will not like these, but such is the interesting world of watches!


 
Posted : 30/06/2024 12:22 pm
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I like the Squale.

I don't like the Damasko.

I like the Ball.

Of all of them I prefer the Aera - nice looking 'diver' from a brand I'd never heard of until now :o)


 
Posted : 01/07/2024 9:42 am
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I like the Aera - my favourite of the ones shown.


 
Posted : 01/07/2024 10:40 am
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Yeah, the Damasko is proper German well engineered, but quite industrial looking. You can use the crown underwater!

As much as others' opinions are not the main driver, it's nice to hear other positive opinions. Pulling the trigger on the Aera this week


 
Posted : 01/07/2024 12:34 pm
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The aera is clearly a blancpain of homage.  Looks nice


 
Posted : 01/07/2024 1:05 pm
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3403That is so cool!


 
Posted : 03/07/2024 8:14 pm
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Hmm that watch is not my idea of cool or stylish but each to their own!

well done Cav’ :o)


 
Posted : 03/07/2024 9:01 pm
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That's a pretty bonkers watch to race a whole stage with... 😮


 
Posted : 03/07/2024 9:27 pm
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Yeah but if he leaves it home in Ongar the crooks smash they door in an nick his watches anyway.


 
Posted : 03/07/2024 9:35 pm
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Cool on so many levels, but as @chipps said, not just riding a stage but sprinting with that on your wrist ... utterly utterly bonkers, and so cool!

Perhaps if gravel rash messed it up it would be even more minted!


 
Posted : 04/07/2024 6:06 pm
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Also, I hope Cav reads Watches N+1...


 
Posted : 04/07/2024 6:16 pm
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Cav wouldn’t be much use as an RM brand ambassador if they lent it to him and he left it at home and wore a Casio instead. It’s literally photos like this that he gets paid for.


 
Posted : 04/07/2024 7:00 pm
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Yeah I don’t think Cav is paying for his Richard Milles. Pogacar is sponsored by them too I see.

Anyway, I don’t think they cost £200k at trade prices - I would love to see the RM mark up - x50 maybe? Maybe not for some of their mad sapphire case ones but anyway…

Speaking of high quality integrated sports watches I’m selling an immaculate ice blue Chris Ward 12 40mm if anyone is interested. ?


 
Posted : 04/07/2024 7:15 pm
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I found this languishing in a cupboard. Think it's about 16 years old.

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Nice looking watch I think.


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 12:01 pm
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Linked images don't seem to be working, I can't see Derek's picture and one of mine in the dogs thread isn't showing either. Shall flag it up on the sticky. Last image I can see is Cav's RM.


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 12:55 pm
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I can see it.


 
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Yep, I can now too. On my phone,  hmm, hang on.

But not on my work laptop. Must be our IT police blocking the host.

Yeah, nice that Derek. I shall update the issues thread.


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 3:52 pm
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I’ve had an interesting day.  Coffee in a couple of ADs trying on a Panarei Luminor then the new Aqua Terra  lack lacquer dial.

With a 6.75 wrist I was surprised how good the 44mm Luminor looked on wrist therefore kicking the 40mm off the desire list, but it’s a statement for sure like BAM! I’m wearing a Panerai don’t you know.

Then after asking it turned out the new AT still boxed and sealed had arrived an hour ago, so I was the first to try it.   What a stunning watch for sure, but it felt a bit “normal” emotionally compared to the Panerai.  The AT can be worn in many more scenarios and is a classy watch, but the Pan really is a statement.

Both put a GS Snowflake at the very back of my mind.

It’s nice to dream / aspire and it was an enjoyable experience. 🙂


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 6:04 pm
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Pam, not pan.   I understand it's an acronym (panerai 'something' model)  not a misspelled shortening.


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 6:29 pm
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That one was an autocorrect.  I’m aware of the Pam thing.


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 6:55 pm
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Don’t you lot start again.  I’ve been obsessed with a PAM00112 for a while now and had just about forgotten about it, now I find myself looking at pictures again.  Good job they’ve been discontinued and not so easy to find a nice one.


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 7:12 pm
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Would it help if I know where there are two in a second hand AD? ?


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 7:33 pm
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Only if they’re less than £3k and mint/unpolished 😉


 
Posted : 05/07/2024 7:36 pm
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@pisco

I bought a Longines Legend Diver a few yrs back, based on their 60's supercompressor. I really like it, it's a bit different and less in your face than many other divers and I now have it on a NATO strap.

Most ridiculous sized box though... one here in your budget...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225975644370?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=710-53481-19255-0&campid=5338749371&toolid=20006&_ul=GB&customid=GB_281_225975644370.138022800130~1869344525733-g_EAIaIQobChMI9NemnJmShwMVA5VQBh3HVwb6EAQYBCABEgJHzPD_BwE&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9NemnJmShwMVA5VQBh3HVwb6EAQYBCABEgJHzPD_BwE


 
Posted : 06/07/2024 11:34 am
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Looks like I’m about to test Christopher Wards 60 month warranty again.

The C60 Elite has got something wrong with the hand winding mechanism, clicking instead of winding.  The movement has felt pretty stiff for a while now, so been dying for a while I think.

It’s been back to them before when it was 3 months old and wasn’t seen again for 6 months.  This time I’m 6 months short of it being out of warranty, so kinda glad it’s broken now!  Let hope it’s back quicker this time.  I was thinking about moving it on anyway, so at least it will have a fresh service ready for the sale.

To be continued…


 
Posted : 06/07/2024 3:42 pm
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Thanks @burko73 but I'm sorted now! The Aera D1 diver arrived yesterday and I'm very happy; the build quality, materials and finish are all superb. Thankfully I have had no reaction to the high nickle content in the 904l steel, and it has not dropped or gained any perceptible time in 24 hours. So it looks like it's a keeper! Shame the picture uploader is out of action.


 
Posted : 06/07/2024 5:06 pm
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Can ayone recommend a battery replacement service? I have a quartz TAG Heuer Senna and a Tissot T-Touch which both need a new battery.


 
Posted : 10/07/2024 2:35 pm
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"Pogue" inspired Seiko Speedtimer has caught my eye...

https://timeandtidewatches.com/seiko-prospex-speedtimer-pogue-ssc947-hands-on/

Pogue inspired Speedtimer


 
Posted : 10/07/2024 2:46 pm
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That’s a tough one for me.  It’s not really a Pogue, it’s a speed timer with a
Pogue coloured dial, it’s got the usual cheap bracelet and the only thing to justify £800 in any way is the Sapphire - you can get better for cheaper but YMMV.  It’s very lazy of Seiko, small seconds are a bit of trend currently so to have remade the original Pogue dial probably would have then flying off the shelves.

It’s like the new Tissot TdF.  I quite like it, it’s the right size for a change (for me) but ultimately it’s a £400 quartz PR100 with a yellow Chrono hand.


 
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Oh yeah, very much "inspired" rather than "reissue".

Good job they aren't asking £800. 😉


 
Posted : 10/07/2024 9:48 pm
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A PSA from anyone in London over the weekend, I have an invite from Watcho in Richmond which I can’t use to attend their “Grand Seiko” day on Saturday 13th between 10am-7pm, with goodies drinks, exclusives and offers.   If anyone wants it PM me with your email address and I’ll send it on for you to enjoy some watches and Seiko execs from Japan.


 
Posted : 11/07/2024 7:50 am
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@Blazin-saddles

sounds like the reverser has stripped teeth.  My Visodate has the same problem but I’ve not sent it off to be repaired yet.  Anything based on a 2824 like the Selilta in the CW will eventually do this if you hand wind them.  It’s a notorious issue with the 2824 design.  Not hand wound my Atoll because of it, I spin it up like it’s an old Seiko haha


 
Posted : 11/07/2024 7:59 am
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Bah. The date on my 22 year old Seamaster automatic has stopped advancing. Thoughts anyone?


 
Posted : 11/07/2024 8:58 am
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A PSA from anyone in London over the weekend, I have an invite from Watcho in Richmond which I can’t use to attend their “Grand Seiko” day on Saturday 13th between 10am-7pm, with goodies drinks, exclusives and offers.   If anyone wants it PM me with your email address and I’ll send it on for you to enjoy some watches and Seiko execs from Japan.

That'd be right up my street... if I didn't live in Ireland!

Talk of the new Aqua Terra further up, I saw a couple of reviews of them over the weekend; it's an interesting move from Omega - and an "interesting" price they're trying to charge for them! I'm a big AT fan, particularly as the bracelets have evolved into more robust and reliable ones; but the plain black lacquer just looks a bit... plain. It doesn't have the appeal of, say, a Rolex Explorer I (which it's clearly pitched against), and the quality of the movement really doesn't make up for that


 
Posted : 11/07/2024 8:59 am
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The date on my 22 year old Seamaster automatic has stopped advancing. Thoughts anyone?

Only wear it once a month? Or get it fixed by our favourite Scottish based servicer; Calibre.


 
Posted : 11/07/2024 9:42 am
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Right I’ve had a missed call and now an email this morning from Mappin and Webb offering me an Air King.

I like the watch but if I was to buy it realistically I’d have to move on my Seamaster and Speedmaster to balance the books and there is my reluctance to immediately call them back, as they are watches I love.

so if any of you are interested in an Air King at retail I’ve got 24h to get back to them.


 
Posted : 11/07/2024 10:14 am
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Kato I have a friend who wants an Air King, I’ll ask and get back to you - which model no?


 
Posted : 11/07/2024 11:32 am
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Gave myself a talking to though Kryton.  Off to pick it up at 5pm

Really have no self control.  New bike will have to wait


 
Posted : 11/07/2024 12:52 pm
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Really have no self control.

@Kato - there’s a song for you!


 
Posted : 11/07/2024 1:01 pm
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Gave myself a talking to though Kryton.  Off to pick it up at 5pm

Really have no self control.  New bike will have to wait

😀

pics when it arrives….


 
Posted : 11/07/2024 3:02 pm
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Chris Ward have re-imagined my C65 Compressor….


 
Posted : 11/07/2024 3:06 pm
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It’s a hard no from me!


 
Posted : 11/07/2024 3:36 pm
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these Waterford crystal champagne flutes are well nice


 
Posted : 11/07/2024 7:14 pm
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Here it is

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Posted : 11/07/2024 7:15 pm
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However I made the massive mistake of trying on a no date Sub.  A watch I’d always considered boring, but in the flesh just works.  Massively taken by it and went straight on the list   I’d sell all my watches for that and maybe my wife too!

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Very nice.   I think that’s the problem with the internet, it flattens and takes the life out of watches.  The Panerai Luminor I tried on sprang into life in a - obviously - big way.  I’m considering a second hand one now.

So, the verdict on the Air King, keep or not?


 
Posted : 11/07/2024 8:50 pm
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Buy the Sub


 
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I'd go for the Sub.

Here's the D1 diver I'm so happy with. As stated above, pictures don't compare with real life; it's so vividly legible.

I'm so used to my 50mm Suunto 7, I sometimes think the D1 is a bit small at 44mm! Then I tell myself I'm being silly:


 
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That’s very nice.  I like the attention to detail that is the circles on the minute/hour hand aligning


 
Posted : 12/07/2024 9:14 am
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Fun Friday here:


 
Posted : 12/07/2024 9:26 am
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@Kryton57 yeah it’s staying for the moment.  At least until I get to the top of the Sub list.  Haha


 
Posted : 12/07/2024 9:28 am
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I love numbers/field/fliegers watches and the older Air King was my favourite Rolex but the new Air King = too many #5's and it just doesn't make sense to me to have minutes and the 3,6 & 9 hours.


 
Posted : 12/07/2024 9:56 am
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The 3,6& 9 look really odd compared to the other numerals as well. Buy the sub.


 
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I used to really like the AirKing.  Now the dial looks a bit cluttered to me.  I’m on ‘the list’ for a 40mm explorer or no date sub, hopefully for my 50th, which gives them 2 years to make one and decide to sell it to me.  Doubt I’m that patient though…


 
Posted : 12/07/2024 10:38 am
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.  I’m on ‘the list’ for a 40mm explorer

I am too (explorer I)

We can have a race!


 
Posted : 12/07/2024 10:54 am
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Same here. 40mm Explorer 1 as well as the Sub


 
Posted : 12/07/2024 11:07 am
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also 2 years to my 50th


 
Posted : 12/07/2024 11:09 am
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I like the Air King. Granted I think the 369 is an odd look.  As for cluttered it’s only got a extra 0 compared to the old one and IMO looks more symmetrical for it


 
Posted : 12/07/2024 11:11 am
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Same here. 40mm Explorer 1 as well as the Sub

To make us all jealous, a friend has got a sea dweller, a date sub and an explorer 2 in the last eighteen months / two years from the one AD. He’d never bought one before the sea dweller but built up a rapport with one guy which seems to be working .


 
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Not tying to be antagonistic but I’d love to understand why you lot are on the lists.  Granted YMMV and Rolex reputation, it’s an overly expensive buy from a company that’s kinda pushed its clientele near the edge with its self driven exclusivity, and there’s plenty of videos about with either QC issues, or mechanical gaps in capability not worthy of the equivalent gap in price.

So a genuine question, are they really that good, worth the money and a peak of horologoly for you all, and have i missed something?


 
Posted : 12/07/2024 12:36 pm
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I’m on the list because I tried the explorer on, on a whim, and really liked it so decided to buy one - it is being paid for with an inheritance too. I also like nice watches, they’re the only jewellery, bar a wedding ring, i wear.

At retail it won’t be that expensive and i’m not really fussed about concerns around self driven exclusivity, isn’t that more a limited production capacity v global demand rather than rationing supply. Lots of desirable things have wait lists, Mrs kilo waited about a year for a one of her road bikes to turn up from order to completion

I also have other nice watches and i’m not entirely sure it’ll actually replace my current rolex which has strong sentimental attachment for me , so the wait list doesn’t really bother me. My current rolex, i’ve owned for thirty plus years, it’s accurate, reliable, I worked hard to get it and I love wearing it. (I also drive crap cars, usually costing under 3k, have cheap motorbikes (although seem to have four of them now) don’t spend a fortune on clothes, not fussed about luxury holidays etc so watches are a bit of an exception for me.).

Perhaps strangely i’ve never got the love for Omega Seamsters.


 
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To be honest Kryton,  I think mine is an itch that needs scratching and a 50th birthday present to myself seems as good a reason as I can think of.   People have a bit of history of ‘gifting’ themselves a Rolex for landmark birthdays, qualifications, achievements etc.  and as a ‘watch guy’  I feel I should at least try it out.

Will the watch be as good as my Omega’s? I can’t tell you.  I hope so.   I agree the potential customer service/experience stinks a bit, but for being over priced, I’m not sure they’re that bad at RRP if you look at the competition and they certainly retain the price if you do decide to move them on, should get what you paid back, which is more than can be said of other brands, although a lot of that is linked to the difficulty in obtaining one in the 1st place.


 
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Interesting thanks.   Just the sudden flood of mentions intrigued me.   This comes right at the moment I’m still thinking about the Luminor having found some second hand ones, saving £1000 over new and wondering if the hit on the savings would ever be refilled if I had to sell it.  Then again,  new vs a 10+ yo watch for £1k seems worth it yet I don’t know enough about the model numbers / movements to understand why the high ish 2nd hand price.

So I was wondering if you chaps were “investing” to a degree or just had an interest, knew a Rolex “bargain”… or something else.


 
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I’m not investing in watches.  I’m buying ‘stuff’’ I like.   I get the enjoyment out of them, and if I sell them, I’ll get what I get price wise.  I like a bargain and will look for the best option I can find when I’ve decided to buy, so rarely lose much money when I sell.


 
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Yeah thanks.   I know watches shouldn’t be an investment in the main.   I get a bit too emotionally attached to mine, but that leads me to be thinking about a second hand Panaerai, enjoying it and maybe selling it on later - something I find hard to do and why I’ve now bought the Khaki king twice!


 
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If that AERA had a date window I would buy one. It's really nice.

Luming the brand name is genius.


 
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The mention of Magrette watches a couple of pages ago has spurred me into action. I've got an Erebus Ascent on order and as I never wear it anymore I'm putting my Magrette up for sale. In this case, I'm going for N = N.

It's an original Moana Pacific Professional and it's in the classifieds now if anyone's interested..

@Kryton - if you squint it looks like a Panerai... 🙂


 
Posted : 12/07/2024 9:34 pm
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I’m on a list for watches I want basically because I refuse to pay over retail, and don’t want to feed the grey market kettle dealers.

if a Sub is 8k but the grey price is 10k, I’m happy to wait..


 
Posted : 13/07/2024 7:35 am
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Christopher Ward just confirmed the repair on my c60 will be covered under warranty.  Should be back with me in… 10 WEEKS?!

In better news, Mrs BS just treated herself for getting a promotion.  From watch agnostic to this.  My work here is done.


 
Posted : 13/07/2024 12:51 pm
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I like that lots.


 
Posted : 13/07/2024 12:55 pm
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Love Farer.  Good work!

Mrs Kato went from not understanding watches to buying a mother of pearl Carerra for herself.  I was very proud haha


 
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Not tying to be antagonistic but I’d love to understand why you lot are on the lists.  Granted YMMV and Rolex reputation, it’s an overly expensive buy from a company that’s kinda pushed its clientele near the edge with its self driven exclusivity, and there’s plenty of videos about with either QC issues, or mechanical gaps in capability not worthy of the equivalent gap in price.

So a genuine question, are they really that good, worth the money and a peak of horologoly for you all, and have i missed something?

There's a thread on TRF about 32xx movement issues, 171 pages long and counting...


 
Posted : 14/07/2024 4:02 pm
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Mrs Kato went from not understanding watches to buying a mother of pearl Carerra for herself.  I was very proud haha

Excellent! Mrs Kilo is a JLC fan, this is her good reverso

ffs, obviously it’s too much too expect to be able to post an image


 
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Crikey, rather sooner than I expected I’ve had a call from an AD and have an appointment on Tuesday.   My brain is a whirlwind, Can I walk out without it? Does this mean culling my collection? If I keep them will I ever wear them again? Is it a step too far? Does it take the shine off the Seamaster? You only live once..? If I had to sell it, I wouldn’t lose on a second hand Luminor?

Not good to have the weekend to think on it for an overthinker… ?


 
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JFDI...


 
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