Help me understand the lights on this junction please (when driving). There's a solid green up front next to a red, then a green ahead arrow and a left arrow on the left pillar. I want to turn right, so the solid green would mean I can cross the white stop line and proceed in any direction (RTR Act schedule 14 8a), but the red light tells me to stop.
Has the highway engineer got the lights wrong and it should be a green ahead arrow not solid green? Do the traffic lane arrows on the ground make any difference?
looks like green for left and straight on, red for turning right?
Looks to me as if the overhead green is for the middle lane and the red is for the Turn Right lane.
No idea legally but it surely means if you’re in the right lane stop.
Left you can go straight on or turn left.
It looks very clear from your picture, maybe less so when you actually try and drive it.
Its a council trick. Whatever you do a fine drops through your letterbox 3 weeks later.
If your on a push bike who cares? 🤷♂️
Seems fairly straightforward to me?
Left lane light, turn left/straight on
middle lane light, straight on
both of which will phase together
right light is for the turn right lane only.
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looks like green for left and straight on, red for turning right?
This. But maybe the solid green next to red should be a green ahead arrow as per the light on the left pillar (as that's the only direction you can go). That would be clearer.
I know that junction well. Right turn lane (to Tesco & Cheltenham VW) controlled by its own lights. (Agree that the solid green would be clearer as a direction arrow.)
Please don't take offence, but how is that difficult to understand?
There's a light for each lane. Right-hand lane, right-hand light.
While it is obvious what to do, I do think the solid green up high should be an arrow. It should be unambiguous.
This. But maybe the solid green next to red should be a green ahead arrow as per the light on the left pillar (as that’s the only direction you can go). That would be clearer.
Maybe, but it's been like that for at least 10 years going by streetview so pointless to change really.
Please don’t take offence, but how is that difficult to understand?
3 lanes. 2 sets of lights directly next to each other with little indication of which lanes they refer to. It only makes complete sense when also looking at the other lights. Poor design if you ask me. Lights directly above each lane would be much more intuitive.
Please don’t take offence, but how is that difficult to understand?
😂 I know what you mean, however I went right through this junction the other night when it was empty of traffic and I fixated on the solid green and only after did I realise I'd jumped the red 😳
I suppose the issue is that lights need to be 100% obvious even for numpties like me, so it needs to be a green ahead arrow not solid.
It’s not just for numpties, it’s for people unfamiliar with that junction who are making an on the spot assessment/decision.
I've given up trying to find a Google image I can direct link, but each head can have a blue mandatory direction arrow beside or below it to clarify which direction the lights are for.
I don't know if it's mandatory to have it but I would have thought the central head should have a blue ahead only arrow and the right hand head a blue arrow to the right.
This one near me has made me doubt myself a couple of times when turning right.
Turning right at the front of the queue, there is a green straight, but no, ignore that because although you driving forward initially you are actually turning right, the right filter light comes on, but wait, is that for the buses to your right (blue bus sign) Or you are further back and you see a right turn green, and green for straight, but there's a random red in the middle and the right is lit for buses.
It makes perfect sense in the image below, but on a rainy dark evening, unfamiliar with the roads and it certainly causes some uncertainty and hesitation!
(And the green straight on arrow is permanent, never goes red. Can't help but think the left lane should be curbed off with no stop lines, and the right two lanes have their own stop lines and staggered so the buses stop either ahead or behind the cars)
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Easy once you assess all the lights but I can imagine if you're not familiar with the junction it's very easy to get confused when making a split second decision