Or maybe we could have a 1% tax to fund setting up a republic and see how popular it is.
Or maybe we could have a 1% tax to fund setting up a republic and see how popular it is.
A republic would be funded by removing and confiscating the Royal sources of income so no need.
(and by any measure, opening a bottle of champagne to celebrate that some-one has died is acting like a dick)
Tell that to the Thatcher haters 😉
Every one is free to behave how they want, if you act like a dick (and by any measure, opening a bottle of champagne to celebrate that some-one has died is acting like a dick) then other people might take offence. Rather than being disturbing, it seems to me that he could have foreseen that his actions may have consequences?
I think people talking about Police states, and not being able to say what they want are being more than a little melodramatic. We’ve had a pretty healthy debate in this country about the monarchy and it’s place for literally centuries now, and I don’t doubt that some folks have strong feelings either way. Holding a placard up while folks are mourning, or opening champagne are both petty acts that got their 15 minutes, exactly – I’d imagine, what the folks who did them wanted.
Yeah, sorry, but that's nonsense.
The right have been bitching and moaning about free speech for ages now without really understanding what they are talking about.
Stifling free speech means that the state either arrests you for expressing your opinion or allows others to commit illegal acts against you without consequences because you have expressed an opinion.
If people wanted to call the people holding up signs a dick then that's fine. If people want to not shop at your chip shop and leave 1 star reviews or say mean things about you on the internet that's fine. If they assault you or break windows they should be arrested which is not what is happening. Instead the victim is being arrested.
So yeah, free speech is definitely being stifled in the actual meaning of the term rather than the way right wing tossers normally use the term.
As much as it pains me, I agree with @BruceWee.
People always get this twisted. Likewise with privately owned spaces like Social Media platform/forums/etc, they can shut you up as they see fit. You've most likely agreed to it in the T&C's you didn't read.
what will they do do if by Sunday there are no queues?
Exepect LONGER queues at the weekend. No queues in Windsor during the week, right down the high street past the castle at the weekend.
If people wanted to call the people holding up signs a dick then that’s fine. If people want to not shop at your chip shop and leave 1 star reviews or say mean things about you on the internet that’s fine. If they assault you or break windows they should be arrested which is not what is happening. Instead the victim is being arrested.
On further reflection it is actually quite scary how the incident developed, especially if there AREN'T repercussions for the mob.
Doesn't reflect well on the village really, makes me wonder how the locals are going to react to a CX race being held there the day before the funeral 😬
To be fair, the brave commoners of Muir of Ord were probably defending the honour of their local dignitary, the Earl of Inverness:
Oops, apologies, that was simply some dignitaries associated with the actual Earl of Inverness:
Oh come on we all have our foibles! Andrew representing the country shows us at our best.
As much as it pains me, I agree with @BruceWee.
I didn't realise me being agreeable was so painful 🙂
dazh - love it 😂
Also another who agrees with Brucewee
Monday is international talk like a pirate day. That’d perk up proceedings
Every one is free to behave how they want, if you act like a dick (and by any measure, opening a bottle of champagne to celebrate that some-one has died is acting like a dick) then other people might take offence
The problem with that is, that there is no way of assessing dickishness; it’s simply a matter of personal opinion. One might think that someone claiming some absurd ‘divine right’ to rule is the very pinnacle of dickishness. And one might indeed have a fair point, seeing as how there would be no way for the dick to actually prove this.
And here we are.
Enjoying the surreal spectacle of seeing this incredible queue, from afar. Truly one of the most bizarre things I’ve ever seen.
Monday is international talk like a pirate day.
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dannyh - welcome back in your new configuration as...configuration.
Have you dropped your most recent alter ego of gardentiger?
Reading this thread makes me realise I really don't understand anything about all this. The Queen is dead and I thought there would be two groups, people who are sad and people who aren't. I probably should have expected strong opinions, but it has gone full STW.
Humph.
I think people talking about Police states, and not being able to say what they want are being more than a little melodramatic
How do you think fascist dictatorships start? You are aware that you now have less rights concerning ‘freedom of speech’ etc, than you did just a few years ago? And that our rights and freedoms are being eroded, not expanding (as you’d expect in a progressive democracy)?
‘They came for X and I didn’t speak up, for I am not X…’
Have you dropped your most recent alter ego of gardentiger?
Gardentiger wasn't dannyh's most recent alter ego, that was super_12.
They're opening all the 'spoons in central London from 8am(yes hes a grabbing bastard), that mixed with a load of patriots and pirates could be a heady cocktail. Ricky from the Kaiser Chiefs called this one...
ernie - thanks for the update; are you on danny watch?
Tricky little bugger I think; for clarity, I'm using that phrase as a 'term of endearment' without any other imprecations.
The question you, ernie, have avoided is...what do you know about the 'Lynch for PM' t-shirts from Red Molotov?
I think we should know - a la Private Eye.
Lordy. My wife has discovered ’Grievewatch’ on Twitter. 😲
https://twitter.com/grievewatch/status/1569798117436051457?s=46&t=9GR4N5uI2-w8QYc5Wrev7Q
are you on danny watch?
Not really but "spot danny" is a fun and easy to play game, super_12 didn't last that long and was last seen about 3 or 4 weeks ago. I have no idea about configuration I haven't really paid attention to what he has posted.
stcolin
Reading this thread makes me realise I really don’t understand anything about all this. The Queen is dead and I thought there would be two groups, people who are sad and people who aren’t. I probably should have expected strong opinions, but it has gone full STW.
I don't think that's specific to STW.... and (even as a Republican I'd have agreed with you) ..
As a republican I'm sad as we missed the opportunity for a peaceful abolition whilst swapping a "not as bad as she could have been" for a "someone who shouldn't be given power" and his "someone shouldn't be allowed near young girls" deputy but I don't think that's the thing making you realise "I really don’t understand anything about all this".
So PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG .. but I think what is so bizarre is actually that not specific to STW I'd have expected some people to be sad and some not really care and those who were sad to be sad .. those who don't care to get on with stuff... but what seems to be happening is..
A whole load of people who don't care virtue signalling and a bunch of people who do care then jumping in/on and feeling like they have some right to criticise (often in quite extreme terms) those that don't care and tell them what they can and can't think, feel, do?
I mean before this all started I'd totally expect a riding mate who's serving military to be sad and if he had the day off to get a train to London even. Had he invited me along I'd have politely said "not my thing mate" ... now he's telling the other riding mates what they can and can't do and how it's unacceptable for a bike park to open Monday.
Personally I'll be a bit upset when say David Attenborough dies... someone I feel made a far more significant and emotional part of MY life and someone I'd consider a "national treasure"... but I'm not going to be telling people they should be upset, not ride bikes or have the right to go to work or see a GP etc.
This'll be the last big one, Charles willare a balls of it cos he cant keep his gob shut and that'll be that. Wills powers will be restricted to appearing on tea towels and opening leisure centres. Job jobbed.
and our country without royalty and our royal history would be absolutely screwed.
the majority of people who come to visit and holidayin the uk come because of the royal connection, nothing more.
Absolutely hilarious that you have been brain washed to such an extent that you come out with desperate and deluded flat earther fanny like this.
I've never met someone who has come to the UK because/to see the royals!
I’ve never met someone who has come to the UK because/to see the royals!
Its desperate drivel in a futile attempt to justify the unjustifiable.
Remove the scroungers and all their stolen palaces/land etc will still be there for tourists to view.
It could serve as a great reminder to future generations about how deluded and warped this country used to be. i.e. holding one family up as some sort of gods, as if they've cured the country of cancer and illness and are solely responsible for holding society together, when the reality is they've done the grand total of F all. Except take take take and position themselves above the law so they can do as they please ala that rancid tumour on the arse of society randy andy.
Well done to the protesters in Cardiff today.
Despite the media bombardment and hostility of police/state - a few dissenting voices making themselves heard.
Nice to see theres been a bit of a backlash over freedom issues, which seem to have come to the fore over a couple of 'breach of the peace' arrests by police who apparently don't know the law they're supposed to be upholding.
I would hope in those previous incidents the officers themselves would face disciplinary action, as its a civil rights issue and they stomped all over it.
We cant and shouldn't ever just let that go unanswered.
K
Full MemberI’ve never met someone who has come to the UK because/to see the royals!
France has more royal tourism than we have! And they have much better access to the royal tourist attractions since there's never any royals in 'em.
On “this is not the time”… the attempts to use this period of mourning for political ends are now in full swing…
https://twitter.com/mrharrycole/status/1570924455463120896?s=21
https://twitter.com/afneil/status/1570959146396299264?s=21
Give it back then!
https://twitter.com/michaelsheen/status/1570825183048470541?t=b4n9eZ_Dqu4RTYjRh3bZkw&s=08
Thanks.
An interesting (but windy) history lesson.
This has to be one of the daftest stories associated with the Queen's death I've seen so far:
And daft on two levels. Firstly that an airport in a staunchly republican country which accepts international flights should be named after a foreign monarch - because she once went there about 90 years ago.
And secondly that the new name will be : "Le Touquet-Paris-Plage Elizabeth II", a ridiculously long mouthful for the tiny airport. What's wrong with "Le Touquet" airport which presumably is what everyone is currently, and will continue, calling it?
I assume that it is in reality a commercial decision to bolster the image of what was once the third busiest airport in France. But I don't know if that cancels the daftness of the idea, or indeed how acceptable it is to use a recently dead foreign monarch for cheap publicity in a vague attempt to pretend that they would personally endorse the enterprise.
The renaming makes sense as it used to be the dirty weekend spot for the English 20's & 30's smart set. An attempt to get the English well to do to return.
Well I dunno. Some people I know tried to get an airport renamed ‘Nelson Mandela International’ back in the 80’s. Sadly the powers that be decided that they would keep the name ‘London Heathrow’ for some reason.
Probably an inside joke on the unlawful killing of Diana (and Jamal Khashoggi's cousin, Dodi)
A real sense of perspective from Lindsay Hoyle this morning 😂
https://twitter.com/zero_4/status/1571420076385136640?s=21&t=r5W2rNi7ooeO_XmS_M2mUg
