i reckon he is spot on.
Yeah, but you just make things up
prove it
imnotverygood
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That was while she was bailing out her non sweaty son…you know; the thing we don’t mention now. But you are right, generally the average is that 55% of Scots don’t “want and love the royal family.” Surprisingly that isn’t SNP policy, although royalists seem to blame the SNP for Scottish apathy towards the monarchy.
prove it
Can't prove a negative
cop out. you are rubbish.
Ton and a_a sitting in a tree K I S S I N G
yeah, bored myself now. off for a hand shandy and a cup of green tea. night.
Well I reckon you are wrong so there!!!
Christ it’s like a play ground in this thread.
Certainly is
But you are right, generally the average is that 55% of Scots don’t “want and love the royal family.”
Or maybe 64% don’t want a republic
off for a hand shandy and a cup of green tea.
It's what she would have wanted.
I’ve been to Versailles since – it makes Buck house look like a third rate outhouse.
Buck palace is an odd fairly new building though. About the main appeal would be the art collection and would probably lose out as an attraction overall.
St. James and Kensington might be okay but have been heavily remodelled so maybe not.
The retired Tower of London, Kew and Hampton Court palaces are better as historical sites though.
Windsor would probably end up being a good attraction.
What's the royal connection with York? Marching men up andbd3own a hill? Whats that got to do with royalty?
What’s the royal connection with York?
Constantine was proclaimed there. Bit of a stretch though as connections to current royalty goes.
ton : regardless of what the sad deluded anti royal brigade believe and want, truth and reality is that our royal family is and will be always wanted and loved by the masses.
I stand proud to be considered a member of the sad deluded anti royal brigade by stw’s own forum royalty, can I get a flag to wave and a country estate? (or two), start by removing the royal family then work our way down the ranks of inherited entitlement throughout the UK then we can begin the work of reimagining our 400yr old political structures.
Yeah, good spin notverygood, you yourself posted the survey about 55% of Scots not wanting the monarchy, I am curious how that supports tons statement about ordinary people wanting and loving the royals?
One of us! One of us!
One of us! One of us!
On 26" wheels?! Nah.
Yeah, good spin notverygood, you yourself posted the survey about 55% of Scots not wanting the monarchy, I am curious how that supports tons statement about ordinary people wanting and loving the royals?
Well. One of us posted that Scotland wanted a Republic… despite the fact that more people support the monarchy than support a republic. Having a King is more popular than having the alternative. You seem to be taking the ‘don’t knows’ as being pro republic. There’s spin going on here sunshine but I don’t think it’s from me.
Here's a thought. Perhaps if the hundreds of thousands (maybe million plus) deluded souls paying their respects were to pop a quid each in a tin (metaphorically) would soothe the savage breast of tj et al as a donation to homeless charities or hospice care? Not too late to organise it I'd expect and some good would come out of it for all.
despite the fact that more people support the monarchy
So what would you file 55% of Scots not wanting the monarchy to continue under?( from YOUR survey😀) What’s the name for a country with no royal family again?
Doesn't the 55% include the undecideds?
However the poll, by the British Future thinktank, found that only 45% in Scotland said they wanted to retain the monarchy – with 36% saying the end of the Queen’s reign would be the right moment to move to a republic. Some 19% either rejected the choice, or said they didn’t know.
That's quite strangely worded though.
Personally, I would tax them; including inheritance and have a no more than immediate family rule. Just fed up listening to pish about them being universally loved and finally bit. Another thing the Europeans mostly manage so much better.
Duckman: Can we just do a simple maths test:
45% support the monarchy
36% support a republic
19% don't know.
Which is more popular: A monarchy or a republic?
Personally I'm tending towards agnostic about a monarch, but this thread is slowly driving me towards being a loyal subject notwithstanding the media barrage.
PS you still haven't shown me a poll which demonstrates any point at which 61% of scots favour a republic. I would still be interested to see it.
That’s quite strangely worded though
I agree. I don't really see what 'rejecting the choice means'. But if you don't have a monarchy then you have to have a republic, unless its Rangers supporters wanting an Empire or the wee frees looking for a theocracy.
I AM searching for it, it was before the big one in May,and was when paying Andrew’s damages came to light. I have been guilty of misreading that survey. However I stand by the point that even that doesn’t support tons claim about how people love the royal family. And as for tourism; Harry Potter probably brings more tourists to Edinburgh than the royal family.
I don’t really see what ‘rejecting the choice means’.
I presume it means they have an opinion but it isn't covered by retaining the monarchy or moving to a republic. Fascist Dictatorship perhaps?
I think "rejecting the choice" might mean ending the monarchy, but not automatically on the Queens death. In that case, the 19% would include those who wanted it to end before then and also those who wanted it to end at some future point, plus the "don't knows".
As a resident, I can tell you that people don’t come to Windsor for the shopping, restaurants or the Thames
Legoland
They moved Legoland onto the castle! Did the queen find out 😉. I’ve visited one of tho two and we used to get free entry to the castle, and I still couldn’t be bothered.
Legoland visitors tend to come in cars and get funnelled around the town or directed from the M3. You see a few of the shopping bags in town of an evening. I lived in the road next door for a year. Chucking out time is terrible.
Cinnamon cafe
You’ve been stalking me! Discount for residents if you know who to ask. The last remaining independent cafe. I’ve not seen a royal at the kiosk but it is their local.
Speaking of Scotland and the Monarchy 😲
No defending the chip shop owner but that sounds like a fairly terrifying bit of mob mentality going on there! Am actually curious if that was just a Muir of Ord thing (particularly unionist/Monarchist up there?) or if this could have happened anywhere.
Predictably the TripAdvisor page has been swamped with negative reviews, all of which fail the basic test of at least being a little bit funny 🙄
I think Charles will slip into the role nicely. There currently seems to be a glut of mineral rich dictatorships to send banquet invites out to.
Perhaps if we can negotiate an end to the Russia/Ukraine war he can have Putin over for tea and talks.
I assume the ERG cadre now in power will and have also done the same.
I have an idea to really gauge the support for royalty, based on the German church tax. We can have a voluntary extra 1% royal tax based on income, we could even skew it in their favour by making enrolment automatic so that republicans have to opt out.
If they really are so popular that should provide the budget for the country to be even more royal, while those that don't support them can at least be pleased that they are not forced to financially support their privilege.
Or we could just follow the Bolshevik approach?
Or we could just follow the Bolshevik approach?
Сделаем это товарищ.
I am listening to Radio 4 this morning and when they do the "Royal" reporting it's absolutely a cult.
Yesterday they were telling everyone it was going to be a 30 hour wait to pass the Queens coffin, as it is it's 6 - 8 hrs, what will they do do if by Sunday there are no queues?
I am listening to Radio 4 this morning and when they do the “Royal” reporting it’s absolutely a cult.
Well then, let's abolish the licence fee, there's a good starting point to breaking a cult, its primary comms means.
Well then, let’s abolish the licence fee,
Like everything worthwhile in the far right Tory UK, it's being deliberately broken, so they can say get rid.
The BBC is going to get a backlash over this coverage and probably from people that would usually support it.
The ERG nut jobs have played a blinder.
We are ****ed.
and what is wrong with inequality ?
I think some people should perhaps take a step back from this thread, and take some time to reflect quietly on how recent events are affecting them. Because lashing out by saying stupid things isn’t really going to add anything to the discussion.
No defending the chip shop owner but that sounds like a fairly terrifying bit of mob mentality going on there!
We’re seeing just how much ‘freedom of speech’ people really have, what with people being arrested for such, and having their businesses and properties attacked. This is quite disturbing.
This is quite disturbing.
Every one is free to behave how they want, if you act like a dick (and by any measure, opening a bottle of champagne to celebrate that some-one has died is acting like a dick) then other people might take offence. Rather than being disturbing, it seems to me that he could have foreseen that his actions may have consequences?
I think people talking about Police states, and not being able to say what they want are being more than a little melodramatic. We've had a pretty healthy debate in this country about the monarchy and it's place for literally centuries now, and I don't doubt that some folks have strong feelings either way. Holding a placard up while folks are mourning, or opening champagne are both petty acts that got their 15 minutes, exactly - I'd imagine, what the folks who did them wanted.
Maybe the handful on here who don’t quite get it need to just open their hearts a little?
Molgrips
It’s not that. She was just a celebrity I didn’t follow, so whilst I thought she was a nice enough old lady I just don’t care that much. It’s not out of spite or resentment, I just have no deep feelings either way.
That's a fair perspective.. but who are we meant to open our hearts up to?
It's not like I know or am ever likely to meet anyone who is immediate family or was a close friend.
You and I are far far more likely to meet someone who's hospital appointment / GP has been cancelled... or someone who's ability to pay the bills has been affected .. essentially for a celebrity they didn't follow.
Some places have been/will be closed the entire 10 days... "out of sympathy" or similar words yet I haven't seen any of them say "but our staff will be receiving full pay".... or sympathy for their staff. On the other hand for anyone getting a free bank holiday.. sure - who turns down a days free pay?
Moreover it is the pressure and coercion being exerted on those for whom she was at most a minor celebrity in whom they have no interest. The obvious STW being the BC "don't ride bikes"... our local riders group being anyone fancy the bike park Monday turning into "they shouldn't be allowed to open" (by a serving member of the military) as if those of us said "Yeah sounds good" were actually doing something wrong or a group ride last Saturday someone who wasn't even going saying we should have 2 minutes silence before the ride??
MSP
I have an idea to really gauge the support for royalty, based on the German church tax. We can have a voluntary extra 1% royal tax based on income, we could even skew it in their favour by making enrolment automatic so that republicans have to opt out.
If they really are so popular that should provide the budget for the country to be even more royal, while those that don’t support them can at least be pleased that they are not forced to financially support their privilege.
That's actually a very pragmatic approach. It may miss the actual underlying issues but it will draw attention to the fact "it doesn't have to be this way".
