[Closed] Thinking of buying a RANGE ROVER Evoque

project? in an Evoque?

Whut?

It might have too many toys that will distract you.

People will laugh at you.

Mate of mine builds them* and he is a top engineer 😀

*he may get some help

his should be enough reason not to buy one ...

http://www.****/tvshowbiz/article-2133440/Victoria-Beckham-unveils-exclusive-baby-Range-Rover-Evoque-Beijing-woo-communisms-super-rich.html

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Something to keep your spare petrol in?

I assume it would be a white one

It's a Nissan Juke for people with too much money.
🙂

And no sense of style.

Tit, pathetic car for the I'm a tosser generation, of which there seems to be far too many. Great car to see on the road, you know when a tosser is around the same space as you so you can easily spot/avoid/goad/point/s****.

Have to ask, are you one of the following or have the following conditions:
A) bald with a goatee, silver obvs? ( Male or Female)
B) female with huge sunglasses that cover your face?
C) female on her phone whilst driving?
D) female on her way to drop off the kids at skool/nursery/parents/tennis club?
E) male and in need of some testosterone?
F) car salesman who has one as "company car"?
G) wear an old skool Ralph Loren stripy Pink or powder Blue shirt with a white collar?

Go for a ride, come back when you've grown some manly genes 😆

Edit: I'm struggling to understand why you chose to use Caps for those words ^^, is you trollist ? 😆

Range rovers of any sort are driven by ****s.

Project, don't become one, please.

I have two mates who work in the factory that build them, I should really plead with them to defecate behind the dashboard before install.

If you like them, ignore the sweeping generalisations from the weirdo's on here and have a go in one. Not worth asking for approval on here.

I wouldn't turn one down

Daddy..............why did you buy an evoque ????

I enjoy male pattern baldness with a full beard and drive a panda all over my manly genes. Apropos of notalot.

Try one but also try a FL2.

Both are good cars but very different and aimed at different markets.

I am not sure I really see the point of the evoke to be honest and would never own one as it's basically a sports coupe 4x4 like the BMW X6 and the likes of the Juke etc (cheaper but same kind of car) but there is a market so they make it. I have to admit I did quite like the M version of the BMX X6 😳 but like the evoke I would never buy one and get a Disco 4 instead.

What a horrible place to spend some time driving around in 😕

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If I could afford a nice one, I'd have one

The "Range Rover" Evoke. A massive triumph of style over substance.

1) It's not actually a range rover. It's a Freelander underneath, and you can buy one of those, with more interior space, better off road ability, and less "trinkety" looks for around £10k less.

2) It's not even slightly "sporty". Despite this, you will find them all jamming up the outside lane of the motorway, convinced that their "sports SUV" can deal with anything, pretty much including a 458 or 911 GT3. Unfortunately, as no one buys the petrol version (due to it's catastrophic mpg) you'll find you have a weasy diesel engine in a car the size of a house that weighs around 2 tonnes. Fast, er, no, and then some.

3) You will find them "abandoned" all over supermarket car parks the length of the uk. Due to the stupid low roof line and chunky pillars, they are pretty difficult to see out of, and the sort of people who buy them tend to have, lets say, poor, spacial awareness.

4) I can think of a LOT better ways to spend £45k if you want a decent car

/rant

Just get a SH Range Rover RANGE ROVER...

It's not even slightly "sporty". Despite this, you will find them all jamming up the outside lane of the motorway, convinced that their "sports SUV" can deal with anything, pretty much including a 458 or 911 GT3. Unfortunately, as no one buys the petrol version (due to it's catastrophic mpg) you'll find you have a weasy diesel engine in a car the size of a house that weighs around 2 tonnes. Fast, er, no, and then some.

They aren't blisteringly quick, but the 2.2 SD4 has 190bhp and 0-60 in 8s and does 124mph. How fast do you want to go?

c. Reasons not to buy one?

^^ MrPatriot speaks lotz of senze, or a Disco.

I have no taste, I drive a Doblo.
😀

But it's useful, it's odd in a good way and it's cheap.

I don't like the Evoque because it's crass.
It's the ultimate expression of style over efficient function.
It's neither beautiful or useful.
It's an over engineered, wasteful expression of bad taste.
It embodies everything I dislike in modern car design.

Just my opinion, no more valid than anyone else's.
🙂

I like the look of them but the FL2 would get my money instead, for more bike warez space in the boot and huge cash savings.

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I'm With STR

It's not 10k more expensive then the freelander. Once you have added leather to the freelander its about 5k more expensive, which if buying new on pcp will make no difference to the monthly payments due to the difference in resale value.

The 190hp is fast enough. Through the gears its quicker then my mates fiesta st which again is fast enough.

I like the higher driving position and it is a well isolated cabin. there is not much engine noise and the 9spd gear box is very smooth.

If you are careful you can spend 33k and have a lovely car. quitter and more cossetting the a 320d msport or many other 30k exec barges.

Fuel consumption is around 40 so you won't need an oil tanker.

And IMO I think they look good. You do otherwise you wouldn't be considering one. I specked up an xtrail and rav 4 and the Honda one and top spec they are getting on for 33k and not as nice as the rr. Bigger though.

The RR is very small so make sure it will be big enough.

TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsSTR

They aren't blisteringly quick, but the 2.2 SD4 has 190bhp and 0-60 in 8s and does 124mph. How fast do you want to go?

In 2014, 0-60 in 8sec (flattered by the 4wd) is practically pedestrian. Once you get to about 80mph, the aero drag means putting your foot down just makes more noise and hardly any go. Unfortunately, they are driven by people who think they are "sports cars" and hence you will find them holding up the outside lane of motorways the length and breadth of the country. If you spent the same amount of money on say a decent diesel estate car, you'd have a car that was sub 5 to 60.

(and that estate car would have more space inside as well. Freelanders/Ewokes, RR's and Disco's are really like a reverse tardis, because all the chunky 4x4 stuff and massive wheel wells (required to allow those massive tyres some articulation off road) all eat into the cabin volume.)

the thing to remember is no-one on here has any style, at all, whatsoever.

so buy whatever you want.

the thing to remember is no-one on here has any style, at all, whatsoever.

I could be mistaken, but most of Max's points are to do with the technical aspects of the car. So style only comes in to it when it's seen as affecting the functionality, as opposed for aesthetic reasons.

Oh, and project, you are a very naughty man.

round our way they are known as a range rover clitoris, you'll have to guess the rest.

personaly I quite like them, bit of a chicks cars tho.

On the subject of "style" I'll just leave this here:

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Contrary to popular belief, the only way ISN'T essex!!

Max I'm struggling to come up with a diesel estate for the same money as an evoke that can do a sub 5 second dash to sixty maybe a tuned RS6 hardly comparable. Buy what you want, I quite like the look of them in a kind of Judge Dredd comic book kind of way. Think the looks might date quickly though!

I'd have one. If you want speed you shouldn't be looking at Land Rovers.

Max I'm struggling to come up with a diesel estate for the same money as an evoke that can do a sub 5 second dash to sixty

Somebody local has one I thought it had shrunk in the wash, they are tiny (and probably even smaller on the inside)

I'd have one. If you want speed you shouldn't be looking at Land Rovers.

😆 yes 0-60 in 8s. That's getting into eco-car territory isn't it?

This thread was always going to be messy.

I don't understand the need for such big vehicles in the UK.

I think a TVR Chimaera would be far more pratical. Imagine the repair bills and fuel consumption might be similar too 😆

Inbred456
Max I'm struggling to come up with a diesel estate for the same money as an evoke that can do a sub 5 second dash to sixty maybe a tuned RS6 hardly comparable

Ewoke SD4 3dr. 0-62 in 8.5sec and £41k basic

BMW 330d Xdrive. 0-62 in 5.3sec and £36k basic
BMW 335d Xdrive. 0-62 in 4.8s and £41k basic

Put winters on either BMW and it'll be as good off road as an Ewoke (within the useage that people will actually want to use, ie a wet grass field or snowy road) It has similar interior space (actually probably more rear seat room ime) and fuel economy and performance the Ewoke could only dream about.

But of course, then you'd be driving a BMW, so you'd still look like a cock...... 😉

Conqueror

yes 0-60 in 8s. That's getting into eco-car territory isn't it?

No self respecting electric car is going to be THAT slow......... 😉

I don't understand the need for such big vehicles in the UK.

Max I'm struggling to come up with a diesel estate for the same money as an evoke that can do a sub 5 second dash to sixty maybe a tuned RS6 hardly comparable

You'd be struggling as they're not comparable at all. A faux 4x4 Vs Diesel estate.

People will laugh at you.

I will laugh at you.

a few questions.

Do you consider proper parking something that only other people should do?

Do you consider yourself to have MORE right to the road than other lesser mortals?

Are you special, better, more deserving than other people (and do you express that in your driving)?

If the answer to any of those is 'no', then don't waste your money as Range Rover will only come and take it away from you. They have an image to uphold.

Overall design is very different to a FL. Chassis may be the same but the suspension isnt and the interior and general feel of the vehicle is different and aimed at it's target market (and aimed very well).

It is small inside. A Golf is more practical and cheaper in every way.

The windows are tiny.

The 3 door version is even more pointless than the 5 door.

They should never have ditched the concept vehicle hybrid system as it would have made a lot more sense if they had made a futuristic looking luxury compact sports 4x4 (SUV?) with very good economy.

But we have a FL TD4 and I have to admit it's a guilty pleasure driving it instead of my estate. The high up position is lovely, it has full leather, heated seats etc and I don't have to worry about it over rough ground or fields (we also use ours to tow the sheep trailer). So I can see why people buy these types of cars. For me it would have to be a 4x4 with more function over style but LR do make cars that are nice to be in and I have no doubt the Evoque is much more luxurious but a lot less practical.

I can see why people buy the Evoque but I think it would be better no company made cars like that in the first place to tempt people who can afford them. If they had made it nice and high up but light and with a hybrid powertrain and using the styling to attract buyers then I would be a fan. That kind of car will come though.

If you do decide to get one then it has to be in white with cream upholstery. It won't look dirty and naff the moment you leave the dealer, honest... And if you ask nicely they'll throw in a tube of orange fake tan for the missus.

If you want tone just get one.
Ignore the bloody idiot comments .
Mrs Iolo nearly bought a RR sport but got a really good deal on a 2012 Disco.
It's your cash.

Obviousl trolling by the OP aside, I struggle to understand why anyonewith a modicum of self-awareness, commone sense and consideration for the environment would ever want such a ghastly thing. I can also understand that there are sadly people who lack such qualities. It's an imperfect world.

Ignore the bloody idiot comments .

I think, if you exercise such poor judgment when aquiring such a status symbol (for let's face it, it's nut much more than that really), then you need to accept you will be judged by your peers. And that you must accept responsibility for your poor decision making and inability to exercise any sense or deceny.

iolo
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Mrs Iolo nearly bought a RR sport but got a really good deal on a 2012 Disco.

Mrs Iolo is sensible. The D4 is the pick of the range imo. No pretentions of being sporty, decent amount of room inside, looks good without being "in your face", good off road and on.

Ignore the bloody idiot comments .

OP is surely trolling excellently?

I reckon but it brings out the good old oil burners

You can go places like this in its far more practical sister:

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Though occasionally its clearance lets you down when it's fully loaded with water, fuel, a fridge etc...

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If I lived somewhere you didn't need to do this to get to the back and beyond, I'd buy a car, not a 4wd. Having driven Evoques as courtesy cars whilst my Freely is being serviced, they seem to be vehicles that don't know their own purpose - not great at being a car, and stupid big alloys (and brakes beneath removing the option of smaller wheels) making them severely compromised off road

Normal people will think you are a twunt, but from what I have seen most 4x4 owners don't care what other people think.

I was given a 1 month old £60K+ ML350 AMG sport as a courtesy car when my estate was written off. It was the worst handling embarrassment of a car I have ever driven. I took it back to the rental company and asked to swap it for a VW Sharan which was much better in every respect + I didn't feel like a massive bell end every time I drove it. Each to their own.

Buy one if you like them. Reasonably practical, reasonable economical, reliable (for a Land Rover) and a low depreciation 4x4. Not for me but each to their own.

I find it ironic that you can say "looking to buy a Discovery" and get a reasonable response compared to this thread.

If you are careful you can spend 33k

😯

If you want to support UK jobs (which is a wonderful if sadly all too rare choice) then to chip in with the diesel estate comments I'd also look at Jaaaag. Diesel XF estate is about the same cash and a much nicer drive if you don't need 4 wheel drive. And Evoque drives VERY differently to Freelander. Had one of the latter and didn't care for it too much (though Mrs Fopster loved it). Borrowed Evoque was much better. Hope you enjoy whatever you buy - I know some nice people who drive Evoques, are not Orange and can park in a bay. I'll get banned for that sort of comment...

Expensive toy !

I once saw an Evoque with an "urban camo" paint job.

I'm glad that
A) they create employment in this country
B) there are marketing departments in the UK savvy enough to brand them successfully
C) there are finance deals available to punters

However I have driven one and it feels like a large car on sponges. It doesn't drive well, it is not nice looking, it's not quick, it isn't very economical & it's expensive. It does however have that important x-factor that the marketing people have cleverly given it, it appeals to a certain personality type that puts an AGA into a 'detached' red row new build, that also wears schuuuues and boasts about having a pedigree dog. As others have said they are now easier to spot on uk roads.

I'm glad it's a success. It's good for the country.

I don't understand the need for such big vehicles in the UK.

I believe the Evoque was in part designed by that great stalwart of the UK motor industry

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Best not to leave a copy of singletrack mag on ther seat then,

I think the back of them looks like it's styled after the new bat mobile.

For me, if it was a toss-up between the FL2 and Evoke for UK driving every time the winner would be a [url= http://subaru.co.uk/vehicles/forester/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=3.%20Forester&utm_term=subaru%20forester%20-e&atlassearch=paid&gclid=CjwKEAjw9-CfBRD8lt_w86zJiDUSJAADZA38kYiuDjn8Ivefsw-4AY1eiKjQOZiBw5uxUi4I4FuNuxoCn-7w_wcB ]Scooby Forester[/url]

Ok, may not be so fast off the line (who seriously needs that sort of performance in a 4x4 anyway) but in every other respect I'd far rather have one.

I read the Guardian and think they look stylish, my alter ego would drive one.

As someone said the STW style police think the Cotic Rocket is a design classic ffs, I wouldn't be taking fashion tips from the bed wetting liberals on here.

I once saw an Evoque with an "urban camo" paint job.

Depending on where you saw it, it was quite possibly a development/prototype car as they use an 'urban' camp for them. Or it was just someone with no taste.

Having had the pain/privilege of working with JLR the last couple of years, these things are annoyingly good. Don't like the styling, and the space is comically bad, but they are really very good to drive. Nothing massively exciting, but just solidly good. Same with the big ones - a Range Rover is phenomenally good taken as a big luxury car.

Still wouldn't buy one myself mind.

I find it ironic that you can say "looking to buy a Discovery" and get a reasonable response compared to this thread.

I was thinking the same thing. I got off lucky!

The biggest downside I have heard about them is the tiny rear window, and small side windows which make it difficult to see anything.

I think they are starting to look dated too.

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Right then Project...

What you thinking after a bit of feedback on your next potential vehicle purchase ...

Going for a test drive of one next week,hopefully the above comments want cloud my mind with negativity, and obvious jealousy of the lower clases

obvious jealousy of the lower clases

Obvious troll is obvious, etc.

I'm just interested in why an Evoque instead of a Disco or Freelander?

I'm just interested in why an Evoque instead of a Disco or Freelander?

Because he's trolling and the Ewok is more of a target for his particular shtick.

[i]I like the look of them but the FL2 would get my money instead, for more bike warez space in the boot and huge cash savings. [/i]

My better half has a 190bhp fully-loaded FL2, it's a nice place to be and quick - and I'm not sure where your 'huge' cash saving would come from; hers was north of £35k.

Bike-space-wise though the only way to get a (large) MTB in is with the back seats down - whereas with her FL1 I could just take off the wheels and open the back window and the bike would just sit across the boot floor with the bar sticking out.

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, why not wait for the baby Discovery was working at Halewood a couple of weeks back and had a sneak peek!

A lot of pre-supposing comments on this thread eh ...

Anyhows ... A while back I had a high-spec evoque for about a month whilst waiting on my XS spec freelander 2 getting sorted out. As already said, the evoque and FL2 share similarities in underneath design, but in use they are different.

The evoque cabin inside is nicer I think ... just a more modern design, nicer dash materials, funkier dials, better steering wheel and I personally thought that the left leg space was one of the best ... felt more specious than my full size range rover. The Fl2 is more plasticky ... its still nice enough though.

Driving position, the freelander has the better view all round ... windows are small on the evoque towards the rear ... and oddly, I much prefer the shape of the bonnet on the FL2 in front of me.

Driving ... similar engines / drivetrain so its a case of take your pick. I would say that the auto evoque felt like it had more grunt ... i read somewhere that the autos have more torque lower down the rev range as the manual gearboxes are a little weak in 1st and 2nd ... but I've not read of manual gearboxes breaking.

I have a manual Fl2 ... in hindsight, I'd get an auto next time i think. The evoques command shift was good for overtaking.

At the time of the evoque, I have a 6month kid ... the evoque was just that bit smaller than the Fl2 that I noticed it on a daily basis enough to annoy me at the time. 2 main things ... the lower height of the rear doors made it more difficult to get the kid into the big padded seat, and the boot was a few inches shorter in depth such that where the buggy would fit front to rear in the Fl2, it wouldn't on the evoque ... so there was less space for other things.

Worth bearing in mind for bikes. That being said, the Fl2 boot isn't really all that great either for bikes ... I struggle to get them in without having the seats down.

Since the boy has grown up a bit now, those issues don't really apply, and even now we are talking about replacing the Fl2 with possibly an evoque.

Overall, its a nice car. I like them. I'd buy one. But for the money, you also get a lot of other cars that are maybe a couple of years old, but are a lot larger ... (Disco4, RRS etc)

If you do get one don't forget that you need a poxy private number plate with the letters and numbers rearranged and bodged to tell everyone your name. How else are you going to let everyone that you can afford a 'baby' RANGE ROVER?

b r - Member
I like the look of them but the FL2 would get my money instead, for more bike warez space in the boot and huge cash savings.

My better half has a 190bhp fully-loaded FL2, it's a nice place to be and quick - and I'm not sure where your 'huge' cash saving would come from; hers was north of £35k.

Bike-space-wise though the only way to get a (large) MTB in is with the back seats down - whereas with her FL1 I could just take off the wheels and open the back window and the bike would just sit across the boot floor with the bar stic

IMHO £35k on a car is ludicrous, you can get a more than worthy FL2 for £10-£15k depending how many miles you want on the clock 😉 😛

Apart from the image they are a poxy hateful vehicle. I work on lots of them and they are riddled with stupid electrical gremlins. And the build quality isn't that great either. Removing the front bumper are we sir? Well that's wheels off, liners out and skinned knuckles all round. My niece has one and bless her I do live her but she ticks the boxes perfectly when it comes to target market.

[i]IMHO £35k on a car is ludicrous, you can get a more than worthy FL2 for £10-£15k depending how many miles you want on the clock[/i]

Yep, and FWIW I've never spent more than £7k on a car in my life - but it's her car and that's what she wanted. I'm relatively easy with it as her previous car (a FL1) was bought new and run for 7 years (and 110k).

We also live in rural Scotland and she has horses - so can justify the vehicle 'type'.

If you like it and can afford it - get one. Wouldn't myself but there again you are not me!

I would probably go the Yeti route if I wanted a 'small' 4x4 or an Audi Q5 if I wanted a more premium model. If I was buying though I would go for something more robust that I wouldn't mind scraping like a Defender or even a Berlingo 4x4 if pure off-road capability wasn't really required.

The association with that Beckham woman means I'm out. 🙂

That & the lack of £45k to spend on a car.
I guess a lot if these get sold on lease deals anyway though.

I'm amazed at what £15k buys in terms of cars these days, if your not bothered by having a new numberplate.

b r - Member
Yep, and FWIW I've never spent more than £7k on a car in my life - but it's her car and that's what she wanted. I'm relatively easy with it as her previous car (a FL1) was bought new and run for 7 years (and 110k).

We also live in rural Scotland and she has horses - so can justify the vehicle 'type'.

I'm the same never spent more than £7k on a car and don't plan to any time soon. Never had high repair bills from not buying new, and always use decent indys for service etc.

What I don't grasp is take for example this

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201408136581686?atcide=emc-cars-EAF004

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High Spec Edition, sat nav, all the toys, heated leather etc etc 2010 68k on the clock.

Why would I spend another £20k? what would it get me? It wouldn't look any different externally (apart from beat the jone's 2013/2014 plate)

The above is one example there are plenty of sub 50k examples for £15k (eg. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201402221997193?atcide=emc-cars-EAF004 )

Why would I spend another £20k? what would it get me? It wouldn't look any different externally (apart from beat the jone's 2013/2014 plate)

I'm with you on that but most Evoque owners will be buying on lease. These types of people don't buy things outright and value for money isn't an issue.