Great running JGJ! Amazing what a bit of regular running can do...
So that was a raging typo then! No, 10k in under 45 minutes. 25 would be be going some wouldn't it?!
Afternoon. I've just joined the Strava Group. Kind of opposite for me, I've just got back into MTB since giving it up for running 2+ years ago.
If anyone is in Shropshire and wants to run in some good hills and maybe some fell races I can recommend the Summer series organised by High Sports in Shrewsbury. The fell running scene is great, so low key and some great folk.
Anyway, hope you all have fun this weekend. I am off to Wales to do the Siabod Challenge - 20 miles and 8,800 ft of climb. OK its a hiking challenge but it would be rude to not run bits of it 🙂
BTW I will appear on Strava as me, Simon Rollason 🙂
The fell running scene is great, so low key and some great folk.
This.
I’m currently at 49 minutes for a 10k. Want to try and knock 2 minutes off that by the end of the year.
Just got in from what was supposed to be an easy 7km. I really hate running in the warm! Respect to those on the SDW this weekend, looks toasty.
Not complaining about the weather; I’ll go riding instead. But I’d far rather it was below freezing if I could choose the weather for my run!
yeah I had a sweaty jog this afternoon, feeling a bit worn out by the end though that might have been something to do with yesterday's bike ride. Anyway it certainly doesn't make me want to do a summer of marathon training.
Bad week this week with work and kids being ill. Would the general consensus be to go back and redo week 2 of the 5k plan or move straight to the first day of week 3? I’m genuinely unsure of which to do. Any advice appreciated.
Depends a bit how confident you're feeling but there's certainly no harm in repeating a week.
Bring it on !
Love the sunshine ..

Best of luck sir, that’s a proper bit of hill running!
Cheers. Looking at the weather I think they might be running a bad weather course.
Likewise, I’m doing a couch-to-5k, apparently my cycling muscles are irrelevant to running
I'm the opposite, first MTB ride of the year tomorrow, lost my mojo over the winter, first time in 15 years. Be interesting to see how the running helps or otherwise!.
Did the clumber sprint duathlon yesterday, 1hr 25.
Did the 5k in 28min (pb is 27:11) and last run was quicker, pleased with that 15mins faster than last year though will have to train harder to get much faster.
As normal 10mins into the 1st run and throught the second run i was never going to run again, ten mins after the end "when's next years?". Good event though not sure how you can not draft when so many bikes are on the road with traffic.
Weather turned out ok for Stuc a' Chroin if a bit claggy. Another win for Finlay Wild by 11 mins over 2nd place. 2nd vet40 for me with a bottle of whisky and a Pete Bland voucher as the prize. The benefit of being a vet is you can be a bit shit and still get a prize!
Pretty gubbed now after two hard races on consecutive weekends.
Edit: in fact, having had breakfast I've just gone back to bed!
Well done spin, great result, top effort! 🕺
Well, turns out running transfers pretty well across into biking (haven't ridden at all really since early november) tickled up climbs that would usually have me struggling no probs, and really felt the power improvement when up out the saddle cranking a big gear on the flowy stuff.
I only tired toward the end, which is expected on a 5 hour ride, as I only rarely run over an hour.
Guid.
Well, turns out running transfers pretty well across into biking
Its easier to get the intensity running I think, too easy to coast cycling. We were musing in the car on the way down about entering the 3 Peaks CX this year so I hope the fitness does transfer well as neither of us will manage much riding prior to it. I'll take Rob Jebb as my role model for that.
Chuffing hot for yesterday’s 15k at QECP, I’m going to leave it much later this afternoon up there before another hack around (expect it will be quite busy 🤣)
Can anyone recommend me some compression shorts that have no internal seams? I have some Decathlon ones which are brilliant but they don't seem to do them now. I've also got some Skins ones but they have internal seams which start to chafe on long runs.
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First run in absolutely ages on Friday. I fancied doing some exercise that wasn't sitting down, as I'm getting slightly worried about my posture (spend the day sitting in lectures, then all the exercise I do is hunched over a bike).
Steady (34 min) 5k, with the only goal to focus on being fluid and not get hip pain, which I managed. Felt fine that evening, went out for a few hours on the bike too, but woke up the next day with proper muscle soreness (hobbling around type deal), the sort I haven't felt in years of bike racing. I suspect a bit more regular running will lessen this, or is it something you lot just put up with?
is it something you lot just put up with?
If you're pushing into new territory whether that be a 5k or a 100 mile ultra you're going to hurt at times. If you're just doing the same distances then it should get easier.
Brum 10k done, really hot, badly paced and so really hard. I think I need to accept that I’m not as fit as I think I am and so either need to train harder or aim at slower times. With hindsight going for 42 mins was a silly idea and I paid for it.
So it’s back to the drawing board, some better training, better food choices and then hopefully some better times.
More racing might help lunge, it certainly improved my fitness and made me better able to judge pacing. And when you say 'better food choices' what do you mean?
Days like today are a useful reminder that there's really quite a fine line between a bit on the cold side and too bloody hot!
When it's hot like that, best not chasing times IME, hindsight is easy though. Well done all the same.
Can anyone recommend me some compression shorts

I’m not sure if you’ve looked at these 2xu’s, they’ve got seams but mine seem not to rub.. but I’ve just bought these and first run in them today..
They’ve got an inner liner, that you can run in separately if you like.. or just the shorts.. today I ran in the combination and hardly knew they were on..

Just been for a run.
I'm doing the Manchester 10K in two weeks so started training, erm, last Monday. What could possibly go wrong.
Today's lesson, 25'C + not fuelling properly = bonking at about 2km.
they’ve got seams but mine seem not to rub
Believe me, after 20hrs they will rub. That's why I'm looking for seamless ones.
Fairynuff
Believe me, after 20hrs they will rub. That’s why I’m looking for seamless ones.
Salomon make some great ones, and I think Decathlon (at least in Spain) also still sell/make some - just don't get the trail ones, at least IME they're uncomfortable... The Decathlon road ones I've used for ultras without problems, they're a lycra inner with a loose outer.
Here's a picture from today's "run" in La Pedriza, a very rocky park north of Madrid:
It's Mother's Day today so we had to cut the run short, managed about 17K in 3 hours - not bad going given the amount of scrambling involved 🙂
More racing might help lunge, it certainly improved my fitness and made me better able to judge pacing. And when you say ‘better food choices’ what do you mean?
More racing is fair but actually I think more, and very importantly, better and focussed training is the answer. Last 2 events I’ve done I’ve gone in undercooked and I need to get out of that habit. I need to work specifically to my goals rather than just running and seeing what happens when I get there
Re. food, more just not eating rubbish so much. I’ve got away with a very average diet by almost constantly exercising and so burning off the crap. I don’t think it helps performance and so need to get back to being sensible and eating better.
Well, less than two weeks to go until my first trail race, and I know it's going to be tough. Aiming for 2h30 to do 18km with 800m climbing.
I've been running three times a week, on the same kind of terrain. I've done a mixture of longer intervals and tempo runs with a long run at the weekend. I've run similar distances in training (but without the same kind of altitude gain as the race....) and I've done outings of about 80% of my target time.
Last Saturday morning I went and did a half-length version of the race circuit (missing out on the first big climb and last big descent), and as I expected I'm lacking experience in managing effort on long (1km) climbs and my knees aren't used to doing the long descents! I've recovered OK, so the fitness is there, but I think I'll go and do the half circuit again this weekend, as the experience gained should be more worthwhile than any final fitness gain from a flatter longer run... I hope. Bit of a shame to do the race trails as training, but there aren't many others with the same amount of up or down nearby.
Wow !
This weekend I'll be down at Enduroman in the New Forest, primarily crewing someone who's doing the continuous triple iron distance triathlon but I've entered the Run 2 Max 24 hour run so I'm taking part as well. 24 hours to run as many or as few laps of the 1.1 mile mixed terrain run course as I can be bothered with. Didn't have a target for it but one of my mates has helpfully told me that as I DNF'd at Country To Capital last year I should aim to cover 43 miles so I can put that distance to bed. Any less will result in merciless mockery. Should be fun after something like 30 hours of crewing duties.
Ohh thats sounds like the event my mate Jonny did a couple of years ago.. Is it in the grounds of the YHA where the Big Bike Bash is held (can't remember the name of it now) has a small lake then up through the gardens and over into the woods loop??
Any ways up...
Someone posted earlier that running was shite, sometimes it is.. today for instance. Did a normal flat loop down to the beach and along the cliffs and through the footpaths over the fields... flat like my body was tripping over my legs, my legs had no cohesive movement to them they just flung one way then the other, breathing was paltry and wheezy and sounding like the local Donkey sanctuary ... and it was hot, and I sweat like seal.
Some days are just like that.
It's at Avon Tyrell, which is run by UK Youth. Could well be the same place, as it does indeed have a small lake and woods
That’s the one..
Enjoy it, plenty of folk there when we were there. We left him to it and came back the following morning to see him still doing laps.. mental.
There was a fantastic support network there, all sorts of medical and conditioning folks and a real grounded support for everyone taking part..
If you can type after it, let us know how you get on 👍
I know quite a few of the people who'll be down there through other events, and quite a few mates are taking part so it should be a good laugh. My first time down there, primarily going to support someone in the Triple but figured it'd be daft not to do something to take part as well. Original plan was the 3-2-1 Swim but breaking my collarbone last year has set me right back with my swimming. Will update on how it went at some point next week!
I saw the recommendation earlier in the thread for Vassos Alexander's book Don't Stop Me Now.
I picked up a copy of it and it anyone wants it when I'm finished in a couple of days time then let me know and I'll post it on to you.
He's also got a new one out, Running Up That Hill
Loch Leven Half Marathon this coming weekend. I'm looking forward to it, but will be glad when it's done. Think i'm done with the tarmac and will focus on hills.
Notmyrealname, fancy a swap? I've just got Chris McDougalls natural born heroes, be happy to post onto you.
Nobeerinthefridge, that sounds good to me. If you PM me your details I'll get it in the post to you.
Will do mate.
As a relatively fit cyclist who's never done any running whatsoever, what kind of approach would you take to starting?
Did one 15 minute run at a steady pace and never found myself out of breath, but I figure that is the way to go for at least the first couple of weeks? Very conscious of the risk of injury, especially as I have quite tight calves and muscles in general.
How long until you should be running 5k with a steady but brisk pace?
I'd go with feel to be honest, if you can go a bit longer and not suffer any issues in the days after, I'd just keep adding a sensible amount of distance on. I'm definitely no expert btw!.
What was a steady pace in terms of numbers out of interest?.

