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A huge thank you.
Because if this thread, I've just run 10k for the first time ever....
<span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">I went for a run this morning, aiming to run a slightly longer than my usual route that's 5-6km. And just kept going.</span>
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I'm off to flex my buffness at mrs_oab, and probably get short shift as she's run a few 10k's...
400ft of climbing in that as well, nae bad!
Everything around here has climbing in...
Bloody great - I bet you are well chuffed! What a brilliant way to spend a Sunday.
Trail_rat, the fenix 3 has an indoor run function and just estimates distance on data from outside stuff and step counter. Mine usually drifting a bit on distance but think that's due to me running differently outdoors.
If pick indoor run it doesn't attempt GPS lock at all.
Well that was unexpected, throwing down with rain, cold, grim and a horrible headwind on the way home. But somehow I seem to have got a 6 minute PB at the Birmingham half with a fairly respectable 1:40. It once again reinforced that I love running in the rain and the cold, I really, really enjoyed that.
After having another crack at running again I think I’m finally getting my head around it!
I started slowly back in August and was determined not to get injured. A month later my left shin was beginning to hurt and my right knee was killing me! I’d started slowly but neglected to do any kind of stretching / foam rolling (something that I’d done all year throughout bike race season).
I eventually reaquainted myself with my sports maseuse that I hadn’t seen for a few months and as expected.... mild shin splints and tight IT band ☹️ I couldn’t run for more than a few minutes without having to stop.
So for the last few weeks I’ve had a love / hate relationship with my foam roller and given myself some daily TLC. My pain has reduced by about 80% and continues to improve.
I’ve also headed off road into the Peak District to run some of the trails and I’m loving it. I find it much more interesting than the roads and it seems to be much easier on my legs and knees. There’s so many more trails to explore compared to riding.
Pissed through at the York 10 mile today. Great course, set new PB of 1:04 for the 10 mile despite the rain.
<span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">Would have been 30 seconds faster if I hadn't taken a drink in the last 2 miles and given myself a massive stitch. First time I've had a stitch since school. </span>
Excellent course though. Would like to be sub-60 mins next time.
northshoreniall , we couldnt find it in my mates fenix 3 last night - its not in the menus like it is in my 735xt - nor is is it in the *activities settings / add activity profile* settings .
he did buy it used so possibly someones been messign with it prior to his getting it.
Well done Flaperon ... I ran the marathon today and I’m still drying out! So much rain 🙂
quite enjoyed the rain to run in ... at least it wasn’t windy!
Trail_Rat:
Settings - Apps - then add/ remove/ reposition them from there. If not in there may need connect to computer and Garmin connect to add it in but it should be on the device as a core activity/ App. My Fenix 3 was 2nd hand and just did default reset type thing and it was in there automatically.
Hope that makes sense?
I’d promised my boy I’d take him for his second junior parkrun today. Woke up and it was hammering down and a bit cold in Bristol. But he came down the stairs shortly afterwards more or less saying, “Rain? Who cares?”
So off we set - but the time we parked up it had got even heavier but he insisted on it. I threw on a waterproof while he whinged about wearing his. So off that came too. Went off like a train trying to keep up with the faster kids so had to take a bit of a walk for a few seconds around 0.5k but he took off again, high-fiving the marshalls at each turn.
A few more short breaks to get his puff back but he went for it big style in awful conditions finishing his 2k in 12.43, 1.17 faster than last week. I couldn’t be more proud. It should be the dad saying “don’t ditch because of the rain son”, not the other way round right? 😀
Love it!
Brilliant Darcy! 👏🏻😊
If it aint rainin, it aint trainin 🙂
Nice one Flaperon. sub 60 imminent!
I've never seen the point of treadmills really, apart from on an oil rig/ship, and the likes of a lass I work with who lives on a farm, nae street lights etc and she doesn't fancy running herself in the middle of nowhere.
I can see the turbo working, when it's minging outside, saves washing kit and bike, wear on drivetrain etc, roads in the dark, and is a more direct use of time - no faff etc. It's also mildly similar to pedalling on a bike.
Treadmills? just go out and run, worst case is wet feet, and running on a treadmill is nothing like actually running, it's only bouncing on the spot. Used to work with a guy that went to the gym and did 10 miles on the treadmill, 3 times a week. Managed to get him to run the 2 miles to the gym. He walked home, gubbed.
Nobeer - unless it's really icy or 3 feet deep in snow and you're training for an imminent race, in which case going out could result in injury, or you just wouldn't get the training you wanted. Other than that though - perhaps just going out for a run is the way to go.
I don't use a treadmill, instead opt for the just going out approach. A treadmill may have been useful in March when we had the snow/ice, but I managed a few cross country runs in the snow and did a mad session under Tinsley viaduct for a long run I had planned (24 miles - 48 lengths!!). There was no snow or ice under the bridge.
This weekend has been mainly affected by the weather - Saturdays gruesome twosome half was cancelled and replaced with a 10K instead due to the high winds. However, it was a balmy 24 degrees and sunny. Sunday, SY cross country was a wet affair with a max of 8 degrees.
running on a treadmill is nothing like actually running, it’s only bouncing on the spot.
-26 outside will see me on a treadmill. To be fair I use them fairly often in hotels where I'm pushed for time or it's dark outside, but rarely for more than 5k.
Paired with a Stryd you can get really consistent training done.
just did 10k on the one here this morning. Was almost as exciting as watching them trip drill pipe.
as mentioned earlier in thread necessary evil as its a bit frowned upon to run out side here .
running on a treadmill is nothing like actually running, it’s only bouncing on the spot.
Rubbish, I did most of my interval and tempo runs while training for my first marathon on one and it was fine. I prefer running outdoors, but at the time the treadmill in the gym next door to work was far more convenient.
Paired with a Stryd you can get really consistent training done.
I have been looking at the stryd units, are they as useful as a cycling power meter for training, do they fully understand varying terrain and going uphill?
Rubbish
We'll agree to disagree. 🙂
Obstacle Course Racing World Champs this coming weekend in sunny Brentwood and the course map has been published.... 100 obstacles over 15km,
Some of the obstacles are super technical "rigs" .... more like ninja obstacles !!
Not sure that there will be many age groupers left, me included, still wearing their bands at the end (if you can't complete an obstacle, refs cut off your rubber wrist band and you will not be able to podium).... makes me glad I've only 5 mins to travel to the site and have not come half way around the world like some... There are people coming from Europe, States, Canada but also Oz, New Zealand, Argentina and Peru !! .... Seems rather harsh that "official" many will not complete the course having travel so far and paid so much ??
And in other news
The lad, just 8, took almost a minute of his Parkrun time ... 28:07 ... over a hilly 5kms... (winner was 18:XX).
I don't push him, just ask him if he fancies it on a saturday morning once in a while. Then when running I let him set the pace (he'll not stop or walk) and only ask him who he's going to chase down in the last 500m
Yep. Power is a bit of a misnomer, it's a derivative of acceleration corrected for weight and power just happens to be the metric chosen.
However, it does mean that you can be incredibly consistent with effort levels in a race. I know that my target power for 10 miles is 260w, so I stuck to it like glue. On reflection I could have gone for 265w, but not more. It'll generate target powers for 10k and 13.1 miles, but not 10 miles, so I guessed at bit.
You end up behind the pack at the start and then you gradually reel them in. Uphill tends to be noticeably slower pace than you would normally expect, then you more or less sprint down the other side.
The accuracy is uncanny - I tested mine on a 400m track and after 4 laps at different paces it was less than 5m out. Better than GPS.
Just done my first proper trail run as I have a trail half on Sunday. Got bitten by a lab on the thigh, deep joy. I slowed to almost walking the owner had hold of it as i approached then it just leapt and grabbed me. Worse bit I was only a mile in and had 6 to go. Felt and looked worse initially with it bleeding but it looks alright now just a bit swollen and sore, run was ace though apart from that
That's unacceptable from the dog and owner. Quite literally, what if that is a child next time?
Aye, shocking, just because a dog is being held, would make you think the owner has control. I'll bet it's not the first time it's done that. Probably the reason owners grabbed a hold of it.
Well done going on and finishing, worth getting bite checked out though, you don't want an infection.
Yeah I figured she had control of it glad i had slowed down. Im smeared in savlon but I'll keep an eye on it.
But apart from that loved running on trails I've only ever ridden on, looking forward to my half
Today I ran up the amusingly named Turtlehead Peak above Last Vegas. The search is now on for a Mount Moleatthecounter.
Talk to me about shoes again.
I bought some Brooks Cascadia's cheap on Start Fitness and they are brilliant. I think my feet that for two decades have been very Salomon and Adidas are widening - especially in forefoot.
Brooks are chuffing pricey though.
What else is the narrowish rear and wider forefoot, available in waterproof flavour and a bit less disco slipper?... And under £60/70...
Brooks are very,very good though.I quite liked Mizunos as well, and I have wide feet.
Nike for me, the Pegasus fit my feet which sound similar to yours.
Accidentally did a half marathon yesterday as the forest (Billund, Denmark) was a bit further away than I thought! I positively HATE running, but sometimes it’s handy when I’m away.
My feet end up in pieces though, what good shoes to recommend?
Something light and comfy, some swear by getting fitted properly by a shop, some say it's bullshit. I reckon some folk have such exaggerated running styles that it can be worth it for them, if your getting bother, could be of use to you too.
That’s a cracking parkrun no beer, I did it in the snow between Xmas and new year last year. One of the few park runs I will miss with the new sponsor. I did the Loch Kinord trail 10k today...54 mins was only good enough for 84th place out of 151.
My feet end up in pieces though, what good shoes to recommend?
Go to a decent shop and get some that properly fit you. Try at least 3 pairs on, when you try the right shoes on it's like Harry Potter and his wand - you'll just feel it.
New sponsor? you or the park run?.
This weekend is the Festival des Templiers in my home town
Biggest trail running festival in the world . 12500 runners spread over 15 races . Longest is 103 km with 5000m élévation.
This weekend is the Festival des Templiers in my home town
Chatting about that race just today to a guy from my club - sounds awful, far too many people leading to bottlenecks all over the place. The kind of race you do just to tick it off the list, basically.
Anyway good run today, 23km up a mountain near my house with my club. Despite not having done any mountain running for ages I didn't do too badly... although I suspect I'm going to be feeling it tomorrow in my quads 🙂
No beer; “happy” eggs is the new sponsor. I’m a vegan.
Ah, right.
I'm back runnig again after my injuries have cleared up. Went out this evening for an hour on some local trails but didn't realise quite how quickly it was going to get dark out there!
So, any suggestions for head torches to use for winter running?
Ideally I don't want to spend a fortune and should need anything with much more tham 1.5h battery life.
Any suggestions?
Made it round the Abingdon marathon in 3:29, happy with that as a first time result, and last too, since I’d targeted sub 3:30 and I’m keen to get back on the bike!
looking forward to a few halfs next year and maybe smashing parkrun to try and drop my 20:16 down sub twenty!
how did the other Abingdon stw-ers do?
edit: re lights, I have an alpkit gamma that works well for me
So, any suggestions for head torches to use for winter running?
I've got a Decathlon one, works fine and I've used it for ultras so 1.5hrs would be fine. AAA batteries which is a plus or a minus depending on how you look at it - easily available, but not rechargeable (OK, you can get rechargeable AAA batteries but they're not as convenient as a USB charger....) Good for the aforementioned ultras as you can take replacement batteries for little cost, but probably less ideal for your use.
TBH though you're spoilt for choice, there's so much competition in the area these days that it's hard to go wrong. You'll probably want to spend 30-40gpb on a light, but at that price you'd be hard pushed to find something crap.
Well done sockpuppet sub 3:30 was my aim too, kept roughly on pace until mile 15 then started to die, came home in 3:38 with an 8 minute positive split.
seems I need to work on my endurance.
Well done sockpuppet and mossimus! Cracking times!.
Plans being hatched here for a wee marathon abroad with the good lady, reykjavik looking the favourite so far.....
So joined a local club, meeting tomorrow for the first time. It is going to be like a group bike ride, isn’t it?A few flyers out front and plodders behind with the majority being in the middle. Will there be a cake/ cheeky pint stop half way round?
Went for another trail run yesterday late afternoon. Starting from Hayfield then up and across Kinder Downfall- Jacobs Ladder and then back via South Head.
Longest run to date for me at 19.3k and 600m ascent. I took my headtorch and did the second half in the dark which was fun!
It’s pretty tough going to keep a reasonable pace in places. They should grade these trails like a trail centre! 😂 my legs are in bits today. Satisfying bits
So joined a local club, meeting tomorrow for the first time. It is going to be like a group bike ride, isn’t it?A few flyers out front and plodders behind with the majority being in the middle. Will there be a cake/ cheeky pint stop half way round?
They should tell you at the start and it depends on the club. Unless it is quite elite you should be fine. If you get in the fast group just make sure you know the route in case you get dropped.
Did my first ever event yesterday a trail half pretty flat but on mud, grass and gravel . Went aiming for a 1.50 as my pb at half in my regular runs was 1.53.11 so figured I could do that at a push, even dreaming of the impossible 1.45, I got 1.40.56 so very pleased but wish I'd been 57 seconds faster haha does it ever end lol. Got a nice first medal and a hat too , happy days
Well nowhere near as good as some others, but I got a PB at my local ParkRun on Saturday - 24:21. Well chuffed with that 🙂
What's people's views on weight loss and how it effects performance? I'm probably 3-4km heavier than I was a couple of years ago, when I was riding (and Zwifting) a lot. To be honest, I'm surprised I've not lost more since running circa 4 times a week instead. I guess a small amount of that may be more upper body muscle through running as a more all round exercise and I'm definitely quicker now than then. I wondered if anyone else has experienced an inability to shift weight - although I appreciate having just turned 44 it might just be a fact of life. The other thing is that I see heavier runners than me who are quicker so I'm wandering whether to have a concerted effort to shift the flab and if I'll see improvements in my times. I appreciate it would help with injury prevention of course.
Some mighty fine achievements going on in here 👍💪👏
but I got a PB at my local ParkRun on Saturday – 24:21. Well chuffed with that
And so you should be. Most of us here are racing against ourselves really. Any Pb is a good thing. Good work.
Did the Dramathon half at the weekend (they also do full + 10k). Mostly follows the Speyside way, really nice at this time of year with all the autumn colours. I'd promised a friend trying for 1'40 I'd run along with him, wasn't fussed about competing myself just doing it for the craic, at 15k though got overtaken by a few wobbly arm flappers and thought I'd best put the hammer down, move forward in the field a bit and keep it respectable, ended up 17th out of about 380. Quite pleased with the race swag, a bit better than the usual.
What’s people’s views on weight loss and how it effects performance
Makes a huge difference and yes getting older doesnt help! Needs to lost largely in the kitchen although when I was younger I could eat anything that wasnt nailed down and still struggled to keep my weight up! At 54 its a challenge, particularly as you are unlikely to be able to do the regular, intensive stuff that really gets you trim. Trick is not to give up...
glad to hear that was good mike , a friend asked me if i wanted a last minute spot to do that this weekend - i coudlnt parttake as im west of shetland ATM BUT if it runs next year im well up for that !
One of the highlight of the running year for me - British Fell Relays in Grasmere. All the best runners in the country mixing it up with the 'enthusiast' end of the spectrum like me. I did the navigation leg over some pretty rough ground and a bucketload of climbing - 3000' in 6 or 7 miles. We made a decent job of it and route choices seemed pretty sound. Mist was down for most of it, so bit of compass work. Lovely!
One of the highlight of the running year for me – British Fell Relays in Grasmere.
Glad you enjoyed it - I was actually marshalling on the nav leg, patrolling below the fence on the descent to CP2 in case anyone was tempted to climb straight over instead of using the marked crossings. We didn't see any infringements, which was good news after last year's shenanigans on Moel Eilio although I think the RO was still secretly hoping we'd have someone to tar and feather 😉
It was a damp day to be standing around but as a bonus I did get to see the Keswick pair make their fatal error right in front of me - they hit the fence further north than most of you did, then turned the wrong way towards CP3 and disappeared off into the clag again. It took them nearly half an hour to sort themselves out and relocate back onto CP2. Of course we've all done similar at one time or another, you just pray it doesn't happen when you're leading a national champs race...!!
What’s people’s views on weight loss and how it effects performance?
Generally, lighter is faster, it certainly is the case for me. Like cycling, there will always be someone who is heavier/older yet still faster, but they are the exception and not the rule.
I'm 6'4" and 85kg ish, there are some cycling and running goals I want to hit next year and I reckon I need to be under 80kg to get them. I'm oddly looking forward to the process of getting there and the performance gains it'll give.
And so you should be. Most of us here are racing against ourselves really. Any Pb is a good thing. Good work.
Cheers 🙂 I have been aiming to get over 60% (local club standard for my age group) which I have now achieved. Was running like an idiot in the final 100m only to be overtaken by a 10 yr old lad like he was on speed - although this shouldn't have surprised me as my 9 yr old daughter can out sprint me over the last 100m of a 1500m run 🙂
Well, I suppose the good news is I know what to do to get faster. I'm 5'11 and about 81kg so reckon dropping to 77kg will see some decent improvement - more so in trail running and the hilly parkrun I do.
Glad you enjoyed it – I was actually marshalling on the nav leg, patrolling below the fence on the descent to CP2 in case anyone was tempted to climb straight over instead of using the marked crossings.
Oh brill, we popped out of the mist and hit that crossing dead on soon after ...small moment of satisfaction! The extra graft, or lack of, on Moel Eilio last year was noted - nowhere to hide on Strava! We were good boys and no tarring and feathering due.
Thanks for helping out - one of the tougher events to marshal no doubt 🙂
Absolute newbie here, both to this thread and running in general. Decided to start doing some semi regular running as a way to become a bit less of a single faceted athlete (normally I'm a XC MTB racer).
I'd tried doing this in previous winters but suffered from hip pain and never really got on with the shoes. This time I did it properly and went to a proper running shop, and ended up with some zero drop Altras. Combined with a more sensible build into the distances the hip pain seems to be a thing of the past.
Fourth run of the year yesterday and got a bit carried away, the trails stretching off into the distance were too enticing! Ended up doing 27km at around 5:20/km, and actually felt alright until the end, although my calves are complaining today!
I'm now eyeing up some trail 15km races, fully caught the bug!
After a few busy days working I did 10km on the dreadmill watching countdown in 7.2m heave. Felt like a trail run with the constantly changing gradiants 🙂
If I get off of here Im probably gonna end up at Aviemore parkrun on sat morning.
Things looking good for the target early duathlons in December and jan
So s anyone coming round to visit me on the weekend for the OMM? Conditions are looking perfect though it is going to be cold at the overnight camp for sure. If so I look forward to having a beer with you. Just look out for the obvious farmer looking bloke 🙂
If I get off of here Im probably gonna end up at Aviemore parkrun on sat morning.
Mucho envy.
I'll have to make do with Eglinton park again on saturday, just a gentle one with my daughter though, Jedburgh half marathon on sunday.
Ruddy hell Paddy that's good going for your 4th run of the year! Sounds like your in a similar position to me - wanting to mix it up away from the bike a little. I've got little interest in running on the roads but have really been enjoying the trails. I've been running up and around Edale near where you did your Hill Climb at weekend recently, it's ace.
Just keep on top of the foam rolling / stretching / massage whilst your body adapts to something different is my best advice. I neglected that and it eventually caught up with me!
Likewise i've got my eye on a few trail races. There seems to be plenty to go at
Don't be too envious yet . ..I'm still 140kms west of Shetland in some nasty heaves.
You don't see many bulky fast runners, so weight is certainly an important factor. I'm quicker now at closer to 60kg than I was at 64, although that's only one of several factors.
Hi - new to this thread and new to running. Wondering if something is achievable or if I've set the bar too high. I currently don't run regularly and never have, when I do run (once every few months) I never do more than 5km and can do that at 5:00/km pace / 8 min miles. It's quite hard but I feel that I'm just getting into my stride.
I typically do endurance road riding and can comfortably do long distances (200-300km) at a good pace 25kph if that helps. I'm 40.
I 've registered for a half marathon in May 2019 and want to do it in 1hr30m so 4:30/km / 7 minute miles. Do you think that's achievable? I'd be ok with 1hr45m but not with anything slower. I'm prepared to train a couple of times a week but no more than that.
Not much chance really
It sounds like you need to put more training in to get where you want to go than you are prepared to invest. Also quite a short timescale so I'd be inclined to agree with Surfer.
As part of my recovery from prostate cancer surgery 12 weeks ago, I've set myself some running goals. The first of which is Run Every Day in October. They are only short runs, the longest has been 6.5 miles, but I've done a minimum of 2 miles every day so far. I know it's no big deal or owt in the great scheme of things but I'm quietly pleased and will be chuffed if I manage the whole month.
Brakes: Sounds like you might be setting yourself an impossible task but respect if you have a crack. I started running a few years ago after being invited to a 10km fun run at Silverstone and whilst it hurt, thought that it could be a useful addition to my riding/substitute when I cannot ride. I only ride off-road for the most part, and mostly trails when I can, but I've found I can fit a 5km or 10km run over lunch when in the office once or twice a week. For 5km I average 23mins, and PB at 21'something, but going any faster is highly unlikely. Even if i knocked off a few kg's, which I probably should, I wont go under 21 without proper training; sprints, intervals, hill reps etc., as this is a bloody huge leap away from where I am now: put my gear on, put a podcast on and just run out the door! I run 10km's quite often now and having done a 13km trail run am thinking a Half XC run might be do'able.
Chapeau Mr S, chapeau!
Brakes I only started recently , when checking my Strava actually properly in May after a couple of injuries from the c25k and jumping to 10k too soon. In May jun and July I ran about 35 miles in each month Aug 65 Sept 70 and Oct 80 ( i dont learn do i too much too soon lol )I've just done my first event an off road trail half In 1.40 so on road I could go faster so i reckon its totally possible you sound like you have a better base fitness than me too and your 4 years younger.
I went out trying for a 1.50 pb but I'd only ran 13 miles 4 times at that point so my 5th one was the race and I got the 1.40, I ran faster than I ever thought I could now to run more and beat that 🙂
Good luck
Edit. Hats off Mr sparkle
Brakes, I've made the mistake of trying to extrapolate my 5k times to greater distances, a few years ago. Disnae work really!.
Mrsparkles, best of luck sir! 👏🏻