[Closed] The F1 Thread...

"I think about Muhammad Ali," Hamilton told BBC Sport.
"He sat on the rope and let [Foreman] have the upper hand until he decided it was the right time to turn it around."

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Thing is, Nico's no dope.

hora -
Given up on him.

Well that was a big crash, the Ferrari looks horrifically unstable.

Try driving over a bump at 100mph+ and see how stable anything is. Hope kimis OK but I think this makes it more likely he'll call it a day soon.

look to be struggling to get the bolts off that armco

Anyhow Lewis going to hope he can cruise past the 2 mclarens in a couple of laps if he's got any chance of staying in touch with Nico.

would you really rather have the sort of dull corporate drone

I don't really see that Hamilton is any better than the others in this regard. Webber spoke his mind, Riccardo is always grinning from ear to ear, Kimi says little but doesn't care, not that we hear him or Alonso much this year. Ok Vettel is a bit dull but we must allowances for his nationality. Rosberg, just comes across as calm and rational to me. There isn't always something interesting or controversial to say.

Well this is looking fun! 48 laps and 4 seconds in it, let's see what happens 😀

I wish someone would gve Alonso a decent car. We need to see the top drivers fighting it out at the front on equal terms, not this two-horse procession.

Oh dear Nico.....

Yay Lewis!

Pah Schumacher did OK when he was stuck in 5th...

Finally!!!!! 🙂

Nice to see Hamilton get some good luck for a change!!!! 🙂

Yes. Hopefully he will close the gap to 4 and it'll be game on again.

That's more like it! Fantastic battle between Alonso and Vettel! Vettel clearly faster, but Alonso is so good at defending (rember him v Schemacher all those years ago). If only this were for the championship though.

Yes. Hopefully he will close the gap to 4 and it'll be game on again.

Exactly. Super happy about this so far!!

Great race, good show down the entire field. Glad to see the championship getting closed right up.

Good result for Button as well, shame he didn't have another lap.....

What have all the grid girls got on, is that the new british national uniform?

Hora can you give up on me too? I could use some luck 🙂

Dammit! That Nicole guy won.

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Wow. Thats me looking WRONG 😀

Looks good to me, they see me rollin' etc...

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Way more relevant to pirellis target road market, but they'd need to tweak something to fill the gaps between brakes and rims. Must've been pretty bumpy to drive too with current suspension set ups.

Ok heres my prediction (seeing as Im wrong once, who knows I might be right on my next prediction)..

Alonso in a Merc for 2015

Vettel in a Merc for 2015 or sabbatical

Hamo in a McLaren for 2015

I see the FIA have said that FRIC suspension systems have now developed so much that they could now be deemed outside of the technical regulations.
If the teams agree to ban them from the start of next year [not going to happen] then the FIA will let it slide for this year. If they don't, they are open to being investigated at all and any races.

I believe Mr Horner is currently sharpening his pencil 🙂

I see the FIA have said that FRIC suspension systems have now developed so much that they could now be deemed outside of the technical regulations.

I believe Mr Horner is currently sharpening his pencil

I do hope so as having one team completely dominate a season is not good for the sport; so given the dominance of Mercedes I see FIA banning FRIC from Belgium (Spa-Francorchamps) after the summer break

Interestingly Marussia Max Chilton driver told Sky Sports News: “I hear the Mercedes system is very complicated so it could affect them more.”

Box of tissues for boo hoo anyone (?)

EDIT: I do like the 18" alloys

The Merc has so much speed advantage that I don't think they'd lose too much lap time over the other big teams, tyre wear is going to be where there could be some issues for them.

Scarbs doesn't reckon banning FRIC will upset the top end order much I'm afraid. Guess we'll see.

Hora - IMHO i dont think there will be any driver changes for 2015.

There is no way Alonso and Vettel will drive for the same team.

Hamilton would be silly to go back to McLaren, Williams would be a better but but a big risk. Redbull a possibility if Vettel leaves, which I doubt. They are having a bad year, they will be back. McLaren possibly not back to form until 2016.

Alonso will only jump ship if he has a guaranteed best car to go to. Mercedes is a possibility if the new suspension rules don't mess them up but I can't see it happening with Hamilton there.

18" wheels are silly. 18" wheels on road cars are silly too.

That said there are technical advantages to tyre makers from a lower profile tyre and it does mean they can fit bigger brake discs. I can see them using the move to allow them to ban carbon brakes though and go back to larger steel discs which will affect the weight a lot so I hope not. We could see more reliable brakes though which will be a good thing.

I do wonder if a 16" wheel would be a better compromise and not look so chavvy.

Hamilton will finish his contract with Mercedes next year and drive for Ferrari in 2016. Vettel will replace him in Mercedes for an all German line-up.

Alonso will either win his third with Ferrari next year or leave mid-season next year after having a big bust-up, there will be no more waiting. He will end up at Le Mans in 2016.

Williams to start being contenders with Bottas next year.

I was wondering about Button going to Williams. I could see Alonso heading there though if Bottas starts spanking him regularly.

I'm not an Alonso fan but until the radio whining about Vettel he was doing a cracking job on sunday.

I think Button will be out of F1 at the end of this year. Lotus may be an option if Pasties money dries up (due to politics in Venezuela) - but other than that I can't see where he'd go. His only saving grace could be if Honda see him as an experienced development driver.

Top teams - all will remain the same IMO.

I was wondering about Button going to Williams.

Now my take on the Button situation is he'll stay at Mcl
He's big in Japan [very big] and with Honda coming onboard, they may prefer him? - I dunno

as an aside, do Williams still own any of JBs contract?

yeah that is my other thought.

He could quite easily be classed along with Ricardo Patrese, David Couthard, Webber, Massa etc - ie good drivers but either overshadowed when on form by a team number one or just not good enough. But unlike those he does have a world championship to his name.

He should be doing better and I hope he stays as he's a nice guy to have in F1. He just needs to get some 1st places quickly and stop being, admittedly near the top, of the 'also rans'.

The problem at McLaren - apart from the so so car - is they haven't got a talented charger [like Bottas] to go with Button's methodical approach.
No doubt they hoped MAG would fill that role, he may still but he's either being held back - possibly by team pressure not to bin it etc. - or he hasn't got it. He has loads of speed just lacks other stuff.

If McL were to announce Button and Vandoorne for 2015, I wouldn't be suprised.

I do wonder if a 16" wheel would be a better compromise and not look so chavvy

16" wheels could be the answer and become the 650B of F1

Now there's an idea we could have 3 different wheel sizes, 13", 16" and 18" and two tyre manufactures 😯 with regulations to run both tubes and tubless

Jenson-san will be staying firmly put at Mclaren for 2015.

I don't think we will see any driver moves for 2015 either.

Alonso has too good a thing going at Ferrari, he almost runs the team. He isn't going to give that up unless he knows he is getting a quicker car. that means Mercedes and Hamilton and Rosberg aren't going anywhere.

Same situation with Vettel.

I'm sure Mclaren would like to tempt one of the top drivers into the car but with the 2015 Honda engine being an unknown quantity (i'm sure it will be awesome) I don't think we will see any moves in the top teams until 2016

I know it's early days, but it looks like the FRICs ban has affected Mercedes more than the other teams (as people predicted). Ricciardo only a tenth down in second practice.

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And a great effort from Susie Wolff this morning to be only 2 tenths off Massa's time.

I wonder if Christian Horner will have to eat a large dose of Renault humble pie in coming weeks!?

After all his whinging and moaning at Renault, it's looking like it was the Mercedes FRICs system that was it's main advantage and not the Mercedes engine alone.

well if quali is anything to go by... off the pace by a second, not 10ths. It is this race where the FRICs rule change starts isn't it?

Ouch at that spack in to the tyre wall in Q1.

The bulls were about 0.07/km faster Vs Merc than they were at Silverstone

As you were then, nothing changed at the top of the pecking order

It's rare that one change to something widely used affects the order that much eg. All the flexi wing stuff with rb was a red herring. Tyres last year were a bit of an exception and then there are things like mass dampers and dual chassis that were only really developed by one team.

Lewis will probably be sneaking a bit of sugar into Nico's gearbox oil again...

Looks like Hamilton will have to start from the pit lane unless Merc can persuade the FIA that they need to change to CI discs purely as a safety measure.
TBH starting from the pit lane is probably better than mid pack in amongst the desperate and crazy in damp conditions

Odd that Hamilton has a disproportionate amount of mechanicals than the german fella at the german team.

Odd that Hamilton has a disproportionate amount of mechanicals than the german fella at the german team.

Odd that Nico suffered a strange failure whilst in the lead at the British GP, with British driver Lewis Hamilton behind him, in a British based team car... 😉