I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest he meant he left college at age 19 or something.
Regardless, the industry he was qualified for was far more stable than traditional heavy industry. Which was dying on its arse.
Junkyard - MemberWell not as disappointed as you have that your pages and pages of input have not raised that much response. I shall file you under W for whatever
I have no idea if you believe what you type - who knows you might just be that stupid but I doubt it and think you want to goad folk
I'm not goading anyone, other than in your words, the stupid. That is anyone that doesn't agree with me, otherwise known as the gospel according to Junkyard.
I admire Thatcher, she made it to the top of a totally male dominated world, even if she did have many failings, which I have never denied.
All I called for was a bit of respect, but the lefties wouldn't have it, and seeing as you too have chosen to be rude rather than have conversation, I'm out.
I was brought up to never speak ill of the dead and if i couldn't think of one good thing to say about someone then it was best to keep quiet.............. but seeing as i had a txt from my dad this afternoon stating "the bitch is dead!" i say to hell with what i was taught .........c'mon?..............lets party like it's 1999.
I see that a crowd has gathered in Glasgow's George square to mourn her passing 😉
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It's a long way to Glasgow. Do you have anything nearer me?
I can never be crass enough to revel in the passing of another person. ultimately it just reflects badly on your true character.
Hated her politics but I can't help feeling there will be a lot of people feeling strangely empty having carried such hate buried deep in their hearts for so long. Such a waste of energy and time that could have been spent on better things and a more positive life view.
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Has Morrissey spoken yet?
Has Morrissey spoken yet?
Why? How many people voted for him?
The amount of energy and passion the Left has thrown into hating an ageing, confused old woman, probably goes a long way to explain the complete and utter triumph of the Right.
Now, for proper Thatcher Porn - The way she says it...
The amount of energy and passion the Left has thrown into hating an ageing, confused old woman, probably goes a long way to explain the complete and utter triumph of the Right.
She wasn't old and confused at the time
If I knew you were going
I'd have baked a cake
Baked a cake, baked a cake
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Good riddance to the evil witch. Not religious, but if there is hell, I hope she rots in it
The amount of energy and passion the Left has thrown into hating an ageing, confused old woman, probably goes a long way to explain the complete and utter triumph of the Right.
What three labour election victories then a hung parliament after the biggest recession - WHAT A TRIUMPH
What three labour election victories
Sorry, I thought everyone agreed that Blair was a Thatcherite...
It was Gordon the socialist (nationalising the banks) who spannered it into the wilderness
Of course Morissey has spoken, from the bbc news ticker - all hail our great leader Morissey!....
Ex-Smiths singer Morrissey, a long-time critic of the former PM who berated her in songs such as Margaret On The Guillotine, says she was "barbaric" and "without an atom of humanity", adding that "every move she made was charged by negativity".
Perhaps he'll speak his mind later on when he's had time to form an opinion.
You work yourself up into such a confused state sometimes Zulu.
Junkyard - Member
The amount of energy and passion the Left has thrown into hating an ageing, confused old woman, probably goes a long way to explain the complete and utter triumph of the Right.What three labour election victories then a hung parliament after the biggest recession - WHAT A TRIUMPH
Hardly, all that resulted was Labour having to reinvent itself to be more like her to become elected and now we have no viable alternative on the left
The amount of energy and passion the Left has thrown into hating an ageing, confused old woman, probably goes a long way to explain the complete and utter triumph of the Right.
There's a great deal of truth in that comment.
EDIT : In fact I've checked and it sounds remarkably like something I posted a year ago :
But the Soft Left in British politics prefers to concentrate on Thatcher the person, to vilify her personally, and to hold her up as a hate figure - putting personalty before policies. Which not only shows a lack of political maturity and awareness, but also goes a long way in explaining why the Left in Britain has been completely ineffective for the last thirty years.
An old, very sick person, died in a hotel from her final of many strokes a few hours ago, having lived around ten years with dementia.
How she led her life is only the result of how she was brought up.
That is ALL she was.
As are YOU.
Debate her pros and cons fine, there's a lot to discuss, but some of the comments here are just screaming erectile dysfunction.
RIP to a sick old woman.
Wow - Me and Ernie in agreement on something,
Hell really has froz...see - she's arrived 😉
Wow - Me and Ernie in agreement on something
Indeed. And on the day of Thatcher's death no less. No one could have predicted this.
He also hates the guardian reading lefties as well so who knew how much common ground you had 😉
FWIW that thread and that post [and I assume others on that theme]made me consider it and you did raise some excellent points about personalities and the failings of the left
It changed my view hence I "celebrate" this event less than I would have done so i am just unmoved rather than pleased
For what its worth, There was a very good, quite touching reflection on her by Gorbachev in the Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/08/mikhail-gorbachev-margaret-thatcher-death
He also hates the guardian reading lefties .......
Well hate is a word you use, but the logic follows from this statement.
[i]"But the Soft Left in British politics prefers to concentrate on Thatcher the person, to vilify her personally, and to hold her up as a hate figure - putting personalty before policies. Which not only shows a lack of political maturity and awareness, but also goes a long way in explaining why the Left in Britain has been completely ineffective for the last thirty years."[/i]
BTW I do read the Guardian.
Doctors tonight have described Baroness Thatchers condition as "Satisfactory"
Plans for Thatcher's grave have just been released.
Beautiful really, but I think they should have made the dancefloor bigger.
When I realised Margaret Thatcher was dead, I did a double fist pump and shouted, "****g brilliant!" Everyone around me was disgusted, and looking back, I suppose it was out of order. Especially as I was the first paramedic at the scene.
Margaret Thatcher's final wish was to be cremated.
Unfortunately, we've no coal left
and I dont ...funny old world innit
The IRA bombing of her cabinet that killed 5 that missed her. At 9.30am sharp the next morning she opened her parties conference. That woman had brass balls.
Can I just Im not a Tory and WONT be voting for Cameron. She was bloody strong in alot of ways that does give you a certain admiration.
Haha we've moved onto people whom are Maggie haters have erectile dysfunction now-how exactly are these two things related? Fwiw I was on the verge of major wood when I heard the news 🙂
Looking around it's obvious that she left Britain very divided, and I don't believe that's a good state for a country to be in. And it will take a long time to heal.
Fwiw I was on the verge of major wood when I heard the news
still can't quite get to grips with finding joy in anyone's death, has made me think a lot less of few folk, oh well that's the joy of humans I suppose, hideous hate filled vindictive little species that we are.
tazzymtb - Member
I can never be crass enough to revel in the passing of another person. ultimately it just reflects badly on your true character.
+1
Hated some of what she did, agreed with some - the balance of context has to be applied to much of her time in power. She became PM just as I was becoming politically aware and becoming interested in how it all works. To this day I have little respect for most politician of any colour. That said, I would have loved Barbara Castle to have been the first woman PM.
Twas a joke tazz hence the smiley! 😥 please don't lower your niche little opinion of me 8)
Fwiw I was on the verge of major wood when I heard the news
Congratulations cupcake.
Ooh cupcake....I feel tingly.
I wonder what these Burrowing Owls would make of all this..?
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bearnecessities, would she fit into your "Instinctive Hatred" thread? Haven't seen so much hate filled bile on a thread in ages - you never even returned to explain that most folk weren't quite getting the point. Yet you seem thoroughly disgusted with this one? 😕
To take thatcher policies to their natural conclusion i wonder if her funeral will be privatised?
hora - MemberThe IRA bombing of her cabinet that killed 5 that missed her. At 9.30am sharp the next morning she opened her parties conference. That woman had brass balls.
When an assassination attempt was made on Hitler, an hour after the bomb had exploded he "was sufficiently recovered to make phone calls", and he famously only had one ball. So I don't think having balls comes into it.
Specially if you look at the state of his pants after the explosion and you realise that he probably no longer had any balls at all :
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Those were the trousers Hitler wore during the failed assassination attempt btw.
bearnecessities, would she fit into your "Instinctive Hatred" thread? Haven't seen so much hate filled bile on a thread in ages - you never even returned to explain that most folk weren't quite getting the point. Yet you seem thoroughly disgusted with this one
DD, if you're going to try and quote me, quote correctly; the thread was "cannot stand", not "instinctive hatred".
I CBA to respond to your inference that I should be moderating my own thread and if [b]you[/b] think that thread at any point contained "hate filled bile", why didn't you report it, but otherwise if you want to defend the statements on here of dancing on graves of a dead mother, fill your boots.
To take thatcher policies to their natural conclusion i wonder if her funeral will be privatised?
Well, at least the gravediggers won't be out on 'kin strike!
Hitler escaped assassination by turning into the hulk?
Think it would be fitting for Gerry Adams to deliver a eulogy at the funeral, with voiceover actor and subtitles of course!
There really are a lot of horrible Vindictive arseholes on here today.
It's quite sad really.
Normally people like to hide that side of themselves, but people seem to be revelling in letting people know what they are [i]Really[/i] like today.
Very weird. And quite an eye opener.
It's altered my opinion of a fair few people 😐
ChubbyBlokeInLycra - MemberHitler escaped assassination by turning into the hulk?
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I CBA to respond to your inference that I should moderating my own thread and if you think that thread at any point contained "hate filled bile", why didn't you report it, but otherwise if you want to defend the statements on here of dancing on graves of a dead mother, fill your boots.
I CBA reporting stuff. Sometimes it's best left there for people to see. Fair enough, there's a whole lot of difference between "cannot stand" and "hate" I suppose. I wasn't suggesting you moderate your own thread, just maybe clarify what you meant. Would you not agree that some pretty horrible things were said about some fairly harmless people on that thread? (At least it's only one person on this one.) That you started. Oh and if you're going to start getting Siliconosus Vaginitis about "inference" then don't be bothering inferring that I'm defending any dancing on graves. I think you'll find I haven't defended that at all.
I cannot believe how many of you [ and let be honest neal* you are not amongst the most sensitive on here for] are shocked at the responses of some on here
Dont go on twitter and as you may well faint
What did you expect them warm eulogies from all and sundry
Many people hated her and they will not mourn her death - what did you expect ?the children of miners to speak about her in warm tones?
*No offence neal you were just the latest to do this and it strikes me as a touch naive to have expected anything different
She divided folk and that has led to this reaction
Her policies [ or the policies of her government] literally ruined lives and communities and some hate her for this.
what do you expect Palestinians to mourn for Jewish PM's death etc or vice versa[ pick any two polarised views and do this]
