[Closed] Thatcher's died according to BBC

Hee we made rudebwoy cry!

It's awful.
Which is why the unions should have accepted modernization and the inevitable few redundancies rather than put everyone out of work.

the unions put everyone out of work ? how do you even imagine that there is any reality in that ?

nick1962 - Member

The majority of the British electorate voted against the Tories in all 3 elections she won.

No they didn't. 🙄

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to be able to vote against Labour, but unfortunately all I can do is vote for someone else.

Probably the best biog of Thatcher was by Andrew Marr.

On a personal level she would have despised spiv bankers cutting and running with bonuses as well as the general populace going credit-crazy and getting up to their eyeballs in debt. As Marr said, 'that is the problem with freeing people. Relatively easy to know what you are setting them free from, more difficult to know what you are setting them free for'.

She polarised opinion, sure, but if it wasn't her, someone would have had to sort out the basket case country she inherited in 1979. If the unions hadn't rejected 'in place of strife' as fronted by Barbara Castle, there could have been a more gradual evolution rather than 'right lads, that's a few more years of not having to adapt'. By the way, they did reject it by forcing Wilson into a toothless compromise.

Unions striking for 40% pay rises, for Christ's sake. And the government caving in time after time. Scargill saying he would pay miners to dig mud. Somebody had to sort this rabble out.

Thatcher was bang on economy-wise. To my mind, the two major failings were a massive lack of flexibility when dealing with the IRA and the same with Europe (whilst not having the backing of her party in full).

Also easy to understand her inflexibility on a human level with the IRA, though. Not easy to be objective with people who have murdered close friends of yours (Airey Neave) and tried to murder you.

The poll tax wasn't brilliant, either.

Wouldn't wish death on anyone, but about as sad as when I went past Cambridge crematorium on my way home the day they disposed of Myra Hindley

trailmonkey - Member

the unions put everyone out of work? how do you even imagine that there is any reality in that?

Do you not know what demands the unions were making?
Have you no idea how unrealistic and unworkable those demands were?

Ps. you don't need to precede a question mark with a space. 🙂

Sorry I'm late!

YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

None of the vitriol against her really matters.

She won. The unions lost. End of story.

Do you not know what demands the unions were making?
Have you no idea how unrealistic and unworkable those demands were

no, i don't see the num demands as being unrealistic but getting back to the bizzare point that you were trying to make, the unions in no way closed down any of the mines and you still haven't demonstrated how this possibly happened.

but then again you won't be able to because it's just nonsense.

sbob - Member

nick1962 - Member

The majority of the British electorate voted against the Tories in all 3 elections she won.

No they didn't.

What dannyh said - spot on. I am more than happy to say that I voted for Mrs T twice. Having left school in 1984 with not much in the way of qualification never out of a job, then or now nore were any of my mates. I think we knew we were on our own so we just got on with it.

I would also wonder how many of the predicable Thatcher bashers were even around at the time.

BlingBling please post when your mother/wife etc passes away and I will hold a suitable celebration - ****wit.

This place/post is not the same without TJ 😉

You know I really expected this to be lefties being rude rather than right wing [ or trolls] trying to get someone to react

pages and pages of them trying to goad a reaction with very little response.

If you/others post something as fact.

Can you please include a link/to the facts?

I am more than happy to say that I voted for Mrs T twice. Having left school in 1984 with not much in the way of qualification

I am more than happy to say that I voted for Mrs T twice. Having left school in 1984 with not much in the way of qualification

well she only stood in one election you could vote in so how exactly did that happen then?

😀

My first thought following the news of Thatchers death was to get back onto the STW forum for the first time in ages. Weird.

Junky stop labelling people with a different view point trolls, you're better and more eloquent than that, leave the childish insults to rudebwoy.

Quite right - college in 1983 at 18.

trailmonkey - Member

no, i don't see the num demands as being unrealistic

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

That's either a joke or, no. I had better not say.
🙂

well she only stood in one election you could vote in so how exactly did that happen then?

It's obvious...

[img] [/img]

I am soooo jealous.

You went college with no quals, stayed for 2 years and left with no quals?
Hey! What edit?

sums up thatchers Britain as he then went and voted for her as well 😀

EDIT oh FFS now he went to college till 83 then back to school for another year to leave in 84 ??? I cannot keep up with this

Junky stop labelling people with a different view point trolls, you're better and more eloquent than that, leave the childish insults to rudebwoy

What you think some folk on here are really not trying to get a reaction with what they are saying- Its not rude to say this it is blindingly obvious tbh

Ps Is that a troll designed to get a reaction 😉

The old IMF argument z-11 ?

Apologies for the delay Ernie - been off having my tea.

So, your defence of Denis is that the previous lot created the economic mess, and he was burdened with trying to sort it out...

How Ironic 😉

BlingBling please post when your mother/wife etc passes away and I will hold a suitable celebration - ****wit.

🙁 Are you Mark Thatcher ?

I'm sorry Nipper, was blingbling's mum/wife a British PM that oversaw the destruction of millions of lives amongst the dashed working classes?

nick1962 - Member
The election results say otherwise!!

No they don't.
And as you deliberately snipped the part of my post that explained exactly what I meant:

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to be able to vote against Labour, but unfortunately all I can do is vote for someone else.

and quite clearly too, you have been exposed and I can safely file your posts under "W".
🙂

I think this sums up some of the posts on here rather well 😉

[url] [/url]

Edited as comic contains a sweaty word.

W for winner sbob?

W?

Z-11?

Err - i belive i said not much in the way of qualifications - C&G in agri engineering.

No troll, rightly or wrongly there was nobody to rely on so you just got on with it - nothing else to do. Sit on your arse getting bitter or make something of it.

Junkyard - Member

You know I really expected this to be lefties being rude

Then you won't have been disappointed.
🙂

So, your defence of Denis is that the previous lot created the economic mess, and he was burdened with trying to sort it out...

How on earth did you come to the conclusion that I was 'defending Dennis'......because I pointed out that the Tories were no better ? 😀

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to be able to vote against Labour, but unfortunately all I can do is vote for someone else.

Here's the rest of your post I cut-please elaborate

Sorry; will not bother reading, obviously. 🙂

Don't remember Thatcher bailing out the banks, think that may have been good old socialist Gorden Brown.

Ah, the right wing trying to distance themselves from Blair and Brown by calling them "socialists." 😆

I would also wonder how many of the predicable Thatcher bashers were even around at the time.

I was, not event from the North, but the home counties, so one would expect someone like me to be a tory voter...only I don't lack humanity to be one.

Then you won't have been disappointed.

I have no idea if you believe what you type - who knows you might just be that stupid but I doubt it and think you want to goad folk
Good Luck - watch Rattrap and learn young paddawan 😉

Err - i belive i said not much in the way of qualifications - C&G in agri engineering.

Ah, sorry, i foolishly took this to mean that you got no worthwhile quals

No troll, rightly or wrongly there was nobody to rely on so you just got on with it - nothing else to do. Sit on your arse getting bitter or make something of it.

Good for you, did you eve pause to think how we ended up in such a situation?

Hold on, the political big-hitters have been rolled out!

[img] [/img]

Err - i believe i said not much in the way of qualifications - C&G in agri engineering.

In the 80s and 90s at least, that trade would have been a reliable source of employment. How do you think you'd have got on in the steel or coal industry at the age of 53?

Ahhhh, i miss tractors,

Nipper99 - Member

Having left school in 1984 with not much in the way of qualification

Nipper99 - Member

Err - i belive i said not much in the way of qualifications - C&G in agri engineering.

You "left school" with C&G in agri engineering ? Something doesn't ring true 😕

No, he left college in 84 at 18, no 83, no hold on, what ever year it was that allows you to have voted for maggie twice,

ernie he left school in 84 [ with not much in the way of qualification] but got the qualification from college in 83 @ age 18 ] hence he could vote for her twice

Can he make it any clearer 😯

Clear as mud innit 😕

I shall file you under W for whatever

I like this 🙂

ernie he left school in 84 [ with not much in the way of qualification] but got the qualification from college in 83 @ age 18 ] hence he could vote for her twice

Can he make it any clearer