https://www.italia.it/en/covid19
Talks about the The EU Digital COVID Certificate for entering Italy
It talks about all over 12s needing to present the certificate, or UK/Scotland equivalent, to eat in or outside restaurants.
So my question is, will 1 jab be enough?
Do you have the UK/Scottish equivalent of a Covid passport for the jab(s)? If so, it should be fine...but if not, then probably not...I think you only get the covid passport thing once you have had both jabs though, but I don't know for certain as I'm not needing to leave the country so not something I've double-checked.
No.
This has been done to death on ukc and snowheads.
Wouldn't surprise me if the restrictions change in many countries in the next week or two.
No.
This.
We've just had to cancel our flights to Spain at xmas because my daughter only has a single vaccination. We can't get the other one in time because she has just had covid and now has to wait 12 weeks before a 2nd jab is allowed.
Most EU countries have been vaccinating the over 12's for months and we've been left behind. So while the policy works for EU countries, it doesn't work for UK kids.
It irritates the hell out me though - Spain and others won't accept a negative test for entry so you can now fly while infected with covid as long as you're vaccinated.
No
We only managed to get our single vaxed daughters into Netherlands as we had compelling reasons and they had Dutch passports (my wife hadn't seen her mum for almost 2 years). Otherwise it would very much have been verboden. I can only guess its twice as hard now with the new varient.
Think I read that France are now introducing a requirement for a booster as well from Jan 15th?
We’ve just had to cancel our flights to Spain at xmas because my daughter only has a single vaccination. We can’t get the other one in time because she has just had covid and now has to wait 12 weeks before a 2nd jab is allowed.
Isn't a recovered certificate also valid?*Just checked* According to the Italian website it is.
Edit: Sorry just saw you wanted to go to Spain.
Correct john_I, the rules for countries outside the EU has just changed too. You'll need a neagtive PCR from <48h to get into France even if vaccinated. The pass sanitaire rules still include a positive PCR over 11 days old and less than six months old.
We can’t get the other one in time because she has just had covid
Quite possibly caught from others in the same age group who couldn't be arsed getting a jab.
{From a volunteer vaccinator who - along with thousands of others - have given their time to help the UK have the best vaccination rollout in Europe.
You're welcome.}
Pretty sure you're classed as unvaccinated if you've not had both shots and it's been at least x (about a month I think?) time since your second shot.
Not exactly new news.
Quite possibly caught from others in the same age group who couldn’t be arsed getting a jab.
Fully vaxxed folk are well able to pass on covid as well. Whilst there are good reasons to have the vaccine, preventing transmission does not seem to be high on the list.
Does the France requirement need to be PCR or will LFT suffice? I saw a negative test was required on the news but I couldn't see any details on the French Government website earlier.
It says antigenique, which is the quick one.
No and chancing it could be expensive for you or an extended stay at the state's pleasure. The Italians are strangely hot on abuse of the rules after their experience in early 2020.
Thanks all and bollox!
I was supposed to be in Brussels today, but it appears that they also want a PCR negative test before traveling otherwise it's a 10 day quarantine hotel.
However they haven't actually told anyone this. Until you arrive at their border.
Fortunately a colleague found this out yesterday.
who the **** would want to go anywhere at the moment anyway?
who the **** would want to go anywhere at the moment anyway?
Me, I’d quite like to go skiing.
Obvs this is a very entitled 1st world problem, but it would be quite nice.
Give it another week. I think this is all going to kick off again, at least as bad as last Christmas. We have flights booked to come back home for a week on the 28th December and in the very best case scenario, it's gonna be another £200 in pre-departure PCR tests and day 2 testing. Worst case scenario, cancelled flights.
Is this the same for France?
So with single vac the kids can get in, but cannot go in restaurants?
who the **** would want to go anywhere at the moment anyway?
I'd love to, but can't afford to take the hit losing money if/when circumstances outside my control cancel stuff.
@5plusn8 that would appear to be the case. Be a 70's parent, kids left in the car with a bag of crisps and a bottle of pop!
Leave the window open a crack though...
Booked airbnb and eurotunnel in a rare fit of vaccine roll-out optimism, late in the summer. Plan to take the family skiing in Feb. Would be driving to Italy via either France or France+ Switzerland depending on rules. Airbnb can be cancelled late and eurotunnel re-scheduled/postponed I think so no real money on the line (just hopes and dreams!)
Not going to cancel just yet but it's looking increasingly unlikely even without Omicron causing problems. I have a 14 year old who as it stands would need every 48 hr testing and if they follow France 24 hr testing at a local pharmacy. The cost and hassle of that is pretty off-putting on it's own never mind the increased risk if there's high infection rates or a new dominant variant.
Whilst they have just announced 2nd jabs for this age group I don't rate his chances of getting it before end of Jan and there's currently no way for them to get a certificate QR code in order to qualify as vaccinated on the EU checking apps that restaurants and ski lift operators will be using.
Certainly not booking lift passes and ski hire just yet :-<
Me, I’d quite like to go skiing.
Obvs this is a very entitled 1st world problem, but it would be quite nice.
+1
Whilst they have just announced 2nd jabs for this age group I don’t rate his chances of getting it before end of Jan and there’s currently no way for them to get a certificate QR code in order to qualify as vaccinated on the EU checking apps that restaurants and ski lift operators will be using.
We just imported the UK NHS app QR codes into "Tous Sans Covid", the French equiv, and used that in France. NB they only ever scanned one QR code in bars etc, not both. After my booster, my 3rd QR code appeared on the NHS app with 24 hours. Is it different for children?
Yep U16s have no way of using the NHS app at the moment in order to generate the QR code......Fixable for sure but when is the question as far as people hoping to be abroad with teenagers this winter.
Yep U16s have no way of using the NHS app at the moment in order to generate the QR code
Ah, didn't know that!
On this side of the channel the ski resorts are aware of the issue of different levels of vaccination in different countries and trying to get something done so tourists can visit. The problems with the NHS app you can put down to incompetance or a willful restriction of travel in the framework of Boris's trade war.
The ski resorts are working on it:
We have just canceled our Xmas trip to Spain to see family. Daughter missed her jab as she had just caught Covid at school. No time now to get all the jabs done now. Spain has double jabbed kids for months but our ‘world leading’ rollout hasn’t.
but our ‘world leading’ rollout hasn’t.
Watched Tim Spector's latest CV-19 update last night, he was very scathing about all the UK 'world beating' bravado. Our Covid death rate and hospilisation rates are the only world beating things we seem to have achieved.
So I'm now hoping that Miss OTS (15) can get a second jab (well actually jaG because of where we live) in the next week. That would give use 2 weeks before departure, for the vaccination to become effective. NHS Scotland advice is that 12-15s will be invited for the second jab soon, but no dates have been confirmed. As soon as it is confirmed, I'm going to take her down to the drop in sessions and see if we can get sorted. It's not the complete answer, but gets us nearer to the line.