And again that is the problem, with Truss labour won’t offer a substantive alternative, just more of the same with more professionalism and a veneer of caring.
Professionalism and competency rate very highly in what I would look for in a leader/party. If the country can move towards valuing those above celebrity, then that at least is a starting point.
Pound shop trump, to jumble sale maggie.
FTFY. Maybe. Not sure what's more cut price.
Wow
I really didn't think they'd be this daft
Maybe there's some hidden depth to Truss that she keeps hidden from the public
But I suspect that labour will be very pleased with PM Truss
No way will the tory faithful vote for a brown person
And yet Johnson's Cabinets have had a remarkable amount of brown faces, a far higher percentage than there are in the general population, and certainly far more than has ever been in a Labour Cabinet.
All of these brown MPs will have at some point been voted in as the Conservative parliamentry candidates by a local Conservative Association, presumably winning in most cases, if not all, against white prospective candidates. And then in many cases winning a parliamentary seat in a true blue Tory constituency.
The disadvantages of being black or Asian in the Tory Party is very much exaggerated imo. There was a time when it was claimed that women couldn't get anywhere in the Tory Party, that claim has long been dropped for obvious reasons.
I actually think that Sunak's role within Johnson's Cabinet has had more negative effect on his candidacy than the colour of his skin.
Despite his attempt in his resignation letter to distance himself he is seen more closely associated with "lockdown socialism" and "high taxation" than Truss. Although I have no doubt that it went against his instincts.
All of them are vile
It's comments like which I have no doubt have played a major contribution to people like mefty no longer posting on stw, and this place is all the poorer for it.
I don't consider all Tories to be vile, I consider all Tories to have had different upbringings and life experiences to me.
I have little doubt that had I had different parents, not ended up swinging a hammer on building sites to earn a crust, and instead been sent to Eton, gone on to Cambridge, and got called to the bar, that I wouldn't have ended being the lefty that I am.
I do consider all Tories to be wrong though, even if they might not necessarily be vile.
****ing hell. Truss is the next PM. Lol?
I don’t consider all Tories to be vile, I consider all Tories to have had different upbringings and life experiences to me.
This is my view too @ernielynch.
It's a poor choice, that I agree.
I do feel that Sunak has more intelligence and ability to bring people together than Truss, and for that reason I prefer him to be next leader and PM. I just hope those that surround him can bring him down to earth and connect with the real issues and people he needs to consider.
I won't hold my breath.
Well said Ernie.
Dismissing anyone who voted Tory, or indeed Leave, as vile/racist/selfish/bigoted or any other of the other lazy stereotypes that are used, rather than listening to the reasons why they did it, is one of the reasons politics is so polarised, and nut jobs like Truss can be in a position to be PM.
Of those two, I'm READY4RISH!
He was my second preference after Tom toucan, but he was never going to win. I suspect READY4RISH! would make a much better PM on almost every level. But I want the Tories to lose the next election so I'm hoping that PORK MARKETS is a total disaster for them. And I look forward to the unintended comedy gold.
vile/racist/selfish/bigoted or any other of the other lazy stereotypes that are used, rather than listening to the reasons why they did it
Only a tiny few people benefit from a tory govt. If you vote for them and you're not in this exclusive club then you may not be vile, but you're an idiot. If tory voters are not idiots then presumably they voted that way because they support or identify with the identity policies and general selfish entitled attitudes to life and other people that the tory party personifies. If that's the case I reckon those adjectives above might well apply.
Well said Ernie.
Dismissing anyone who voted Tory, or indeed Leave, as vile/racist/selfish/bigoted or any other of the other lazy stereotypes that are used, rather than listening to the reasons why they did it, is one of the reasons politics is so polarised, and nut jobs like Truss can be in a position to be PM.
Hear hear +1
Every time I open one of these politics threads it's brown this, gammon that, racist racist racist, everyone's a racist!
Professionalism and competency rate very highly in what I would look for in a leader/party. If the country can move towards valuing those above celebrity, then that at least is a starting point.
The government has been quite competent in implementing it's legislative agenda, despite the reality tv shitshow at it's helm. I really don't think a more competent and professional face could have done any more. I would hope though that a more competent and professional face leading the tories would force labour to offer a substantive alternative agenda, rather than just a man with neatly combed hair and polished shoes. I am afraid that Truss becoming PM also means just more of the same uninspiring empty rhetoric from labour.
Conservative voters are likely to be more diverse and open. The members i would be surprised if they were as tolerant. Yes some constituencies have selected non white mp's, but the vast majority haven't and we are left with such shining examples of baker, chope, bone, fabricant and i can't remember if drax is still an mp
So it's a straight race between:
Sunak - economically literate, knew how much Brexit would **** the economy, yet pushed for it anyway at the behest of his masters and to fast track his career and...
Truss - thick as two short planks who backed Brexit solely as a last chance shot at the big time, backing the electorate to be stupid enough to enable it and her.
Cynical and calculating versus barmy and thick.
Wonderful.
All of these brown MPs will have at some point been voted in as the Conservative parliamentry candidates by a local Conservative Association, presumably winning in most cases, if not all, against white prospective candidates. And then in many cases winning a parliamentary seat in a true blue Tory constituency.
I don't think that's how it works. It's not like in the US where there's a Primary election to select the candidate and then the main election. I think most candidates get picked by Tory HQ and then confirmed by the local Conservative Association.
If it's a safe Tory seat then it guarantees a decent level of diversity among your MPs. I'm sure Labour could do the same but as the Red Wall showed, are there any Labour seats left that are safe enough to do that?
But who knows, maybe all the racist Tory members quit after they found out they'd had a black MP foisted on them.
Guess we'll find out soon enough. I can't think of a single reason anyone would vote for Truss over Sunak except that they really really hate brown people.
Have we done Truss' tweet about "hitting the floor"?
It'll be a laugh a minute for the next 2 years I suppose.
If she lasts that long...
I’m just completely stumped that Truss made it to the last two, she’s a complete liability that has very little credibility in the uk, let alone around the world.
There’s a 50/50 chance that we could end up with the one politician in the Tory ranks who makes Boris look like a highly competent and professional PM 😳
As for Rishi, he is about as vanilla as they come for a Tory candidate, the worry is how much he has to give up in favours if made PM.
Sunak – economically literate, knew how much Brexit would **** the economy, yet pushed for it anyway at the behest of his masters and to fast track his career and…
That doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. The Tory Party's official position was to back Remain in the Referendum, and most Tory MPs did.
Who are you suggesting that Sunak's "masters" are - some sort of shadowy conspiracy organisation that controls him? And since most of the Tory leadership backed Remain how did he come to the conclusion that it would "fast track" his career?
And Truss didn't back Leave btw - in fact far from it:
So I don't know what you mean by the comment : "backing the electorate to be stupid enough to enable it"
I can’t think of a single reason anyone would vote for Truss over Sunak except that they really really hate brown people.
Well I gave you one but you obviously don't agree.
A week ago Badenoch, who is definitely more brown than Truss, was more popular with Tory Party members than Truss.
And Sunak was no less popular with Party members than Truss.
Truss will have picked up Badenoch supporters since then.
I know people are in denial but the current leadership struggle within the Tory Party is between left and right. Or to be more precise between right and hard right.
The idiots who voted for the fantasy economics of Brexit are now going to vote for Liz’s fantasy tax cuts.
Reality doesn’t figure very significantly with these people, does it?
At some point the nation is going to have to reluctantly re engage with the real world though.
Can’t see it happening any time soon. A nation of stroppy overgrown spoilt toddlers is once again getting the leader it deserves
Having seen the huge harm done to people deliberatly by the Tory party i stand by it.
I will never see tories as anything other than vile.
To deliberatly cause massive harm to the old the vulnerable and the disabled what other adjective suits? The sheer vindictive nature of the deliberate harm to people is vile.
Sadistic? Evil? What other adjective suits
Their education etc is no excuse. They know they deliberatly inflict harm
Both julie and i dedicated our lives to trying to mitigste the harm that has been done by the tories.
Of course it colours my views
Ernie. There is no struggle between wings of the party. This is all about the pursuit of power and saying whatever they need to say to get that power
The hard right won a long time ago. The folk with the actual power are behind the scenes and are the same whoever us the puppet
This is just a part of the slow motion coup.
Liz’s fantasy tax cuts.
Let us not forget that this lady suggested that we can export 'Yorkshire tea', to China.
This is the level of intellect we are dealing with here. 😀
Ernie. There is no struggle between wings of the party.
You have the most simplistic view of the Tories of anyone I know.
The idea that the Tory Party is an idealogical united party is absurd.
Brexit if nothing else should have proved that to you - most Tory MPs actually voted remain.
And there is a constant battle going on within the Tory Party concerning how to deal with the next inevitable crises.
I know people are in denial but the current leadership struggle within the Tory Party is between left and right.
Are you sure you're not talking about the Labour party here? PMSL! 😉
I am talking about most political parties.
When it comes to internal struggles.
Sadistic? Evil? What other adjective suits
Their education etc is no excuse. They know they deliberatly inflict harm.
The issue is that they are morally in a different place to us. It's a function of their education/upbringing/culture that they most likely don't see what they're doing as wrong. It's sort of the flip side to the 'council estate' yobbos who see nothing wrong with riding around on illegal motorbikes or trashing the local park. Their points of reference are completely different to ours so what we see them as doesn't necessarily correlate with how we see them.
That's sort of more worrying than if they were just evil!
Brexit if nothing else should have proved that to you – most Tory MPs actually voted remain.
@ernielynch - that’s simply not true. Just shy of 50% (46 iirc) voted to leave in the referendum and it was closer to 70% that voted for May’s deal and closer to 80% that voted for Johnson’s deal.
The issue is that they are morally in a different place to us. It’s a function of their education/upbringing/culture that they most likely don’t see what they’re doing as wrong.
That excuses why the Tory MPs are such ****ers. What excuses do you have for the people (the majority of people in current voting system) that vote for them. Many of those people do not have the 'tory' upbringing.
My mum and dad were very working class but always voted tory. My dad loved Thatcher, my mum was indifferent to her but still voted Tory and still does now. She is not a tory at all in her values, approach to life etc,. and anything she says (from reading it) is quickly debased in 1 minute and she quickly gets it but she still votes tory because?
My dad was the nicest man I have ever known, really part of the community, would help anyone, always checking everyone was okay, hard working and had not a single tory bone in his body when talking to him but still voted tory because?
Ah well from the fantasy world of the Tory membership straight into the real world cost of living crisis , what is it another predicted energy rise of 65%.
Should be an interesting initiation for Liz.
Still in case of emergency grab the nearest war with both hands.
I think your going to see how well she does very quickly.
For me it's simple on an economic footing.
The Tories loath the state but they actually need it to take the pain away the minute their beloved free-enterprise cocks up.
Which is all too often.
We've seen it time and time again over the last few years.
If only one political party would stand up for what the state provides instead of using it as arse to smack when things go wrong in the private sector.
This really is the essence of poor economic understanding. There is huge power in the state to do amazing things but it's only used as a bail out mechanism.
It's an absolutele travesty that the only value they can see currently is tax cuts which won't be enough to stimulate anything.
Truss will talk tax cuts and make the most insignificant cut when in power BTW. Something like insurance premium tax!
Corporation tax they rolled back from lowering last time. Although corporation tax does have two tiers. Main rate and small business rate.
They didn't get to the 17% that they set forward in 2015.
Either way no one political party is talking up investment and there's a gaping hole to be filled.
The idea that the Tory Party is an idealogical united party is absurd.
I didn't say that. All these candidates are hard right. The hard right won the battle in the tory party years ago.
the issue is that they are morally in a different place to us. It’s a function of their education/upbringing/culture that they most likely don’t see what they’re doing as wrong.
Balderdash. They know its wrong. They dont care. Anyway thats supposed to excuse them?
This one covers a bit of Boris and a bit of the two remaining PM candidates as well...
Unless Boris decides that he's suddenly going to throw his hat in the ring too which wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
It is factually wrong to assert that the majority of voters in the current system vote for the tories.
Ill give an example of a policy that is deliberately harmfull. Housing asylum seekers in Glasgow but to sppeal decisions you have to travel to liverpool in person. Asylum seekers once initial application are rejected have no access to the amount of money needed to even get a bus there. That is done deliberately to prevent them appealing decisions.
Thats not accidental or unthinking. Its deliberate policy to prevent them making appeals which the majority win if they are physically able to
Deliberate harm.
Brexit if nothing else should have proved that to you – most Tory MPs actually voted remain.
@ernielynch – that’s simply not true. Just shy of 50% (46 iirc) voted to leave
So what I said was completely correct then - most Tory MPs voted Remain.
The idea that the Tories are a idealogically united party is nonsense.
I did not say they were. The one nation tories are hiding on the back benches
All the candidates are from the hard right as the centre right have been defeated years ago .
I didn’t say that. All these candidates are hard right.
Not all Tory MPs are as right-wing as each other. Your suggestion that they are all idealogically exactly the same reflects your frankly simplistic views of politics.
What excuses do you have for the people (the majority of people in current voting system) that vote for them. Many of those people do not have the ‘tory’ upbringing.
Media manipulation. Just look at the crap spouted out by the likes of the Daily Mail and the complete bollocks that circulated via social media, drowning out any sense if rational debate. Plus it's not the majority who vote Tory, it's a function of those who do having the system skewered in their favour by successive Tory governments via boundary manipulation and stuff like only giving extra funding to Tory councils. The system is heavily weighted towards keeping the current lot in power.
Again. Thats not what i said.
Of course Tory mps reflect a range of views but the candidates are all drawn from the hard right. Yes they might have tiny differences but where were the candidates from the centre right? Every one of them was hard right or pretend to be as the hard right have total control of the party
I did not say they were
You said:
There is no struggle between wings of the party.
There obviously is, and it is constantly visible. But you can't see beyond dismissing all Tories as evil and then shutting off all further thoughts.
A week ago Badenoch, who is definitely more brown than Truss, was more popular with Tory Party members than Truss.
Well, Badenoch went full Victorian Values, sorry, anti-woke. I expect that sort of "commmon sense thinking" is quite popular with grey racist types.
My mum and dad were very working class but always voted tory.
As did mine. And their parents voted Tory so that's what they did. No thought applied.
Always bought the newspapers that put over the "labour dun bad economy again" stories.
Childhood "vote blue" training, reinforced over a lifetime, drip by drip.
"suppose we'd better vote for the blues again"
Politics by tribalism.
where were the candidates from the centre right?
Was that not Tom Tughat?
Thing is, if we as a country don't want the Tories to choose such arse awful leaders, the only way to stop that happening, is to join the party.
Where I live, a GE vote is a waste of time, I live in a blue-rosette-on-a-turd area, so if I want an actual vote for the actual PM it has to be via Tory membership, or labour membership, or both.
No struggle between the wings of the party in the leadership election.
As we are talking about the leadership election i didnt think I needed to add that bit.
All the candidates were hard right as the hard right have won the ideological battle.
A week ago Badenoch, who is definitely more brown than Truss, was more popular with Tory Party members than Truss.
That's the 'many of my best friends are black, so I can't be racist' thing. A large chunk of Tory members are probably blissfully unaware of how far along the curve they are. They think they are the 'common sense majority'.
In any other era Tugenhat would be considered hard right. Marginally not as hard right as the rest of the candidates but he is still firmly hard right.
Why wasn't there a process like this after Blair? Why did Brown jump straight in?
I've not even thought about this.
New Labour not into their membership?
A week ago Badenoch, who is definitely more brown than Truss, was more popular with Tory Party members than Truss.
Yet the current favourite to be next PM is not brown.
Badendoch was endorsed by Britain First
So yes she's quite far to the right
https://twitter.com/breeallegretti/status/1549100073241427969?t=-ByDOVARk5R7HvUQy3z6yw&s=19
@tjagain That's not quite right regarding asylum seekers. In fact, they continue to have access to asylum support including payments for travel until their appeal rights are exhausted. Also, appeal tribunals are held across the country, including in Glasgow.
It is only once appeal rights have been exhausted after being dismissed by up to three separate judges that asylum support (accommodation and maintenance payments) can end.
If they wish to lodge further submissions which which have not previously been considered after the appeal process has ended, then they have to travel to Liverpool or Glasgow to lodge them in person, but they can now be submitted by post in some circumstances.
No struggle between the wings of the party in the leadership election.
If you read what I wrote you will see that I said that to be more precise it was a struggle between the right and the hard-right.
It is obvious that Tugnut Hatstand and Suella Braverman represent fairly different positions within the party.
I agree it would be fair to say that all the candidates have been to the right of Johnson though, especially since Ben Wallace didn't throw his hat in the ring. Which some people apparently think it's a great thing as it is amusing and will both punish voters and piss them off. So we should no doubt be celebrating
That’s the ‘many of my best friends are black, so I can’t be racist’ thing.
No it's a "the Tories can support a black candidate" thing.
Something which is very clearly true but some people won't accept because it doesn't sit comfortably within their narrative.
The Tory Party has a multitude of black and asian politicians - deal with it and change the record.
Maybe there's a masterplan from Liz Truss to be the next PM and turn the Tory party into the Lib Dems...
Liz Truss has just been interviewed on radio 4. She really is staggeringly vacuous. She is most definitely the continuums Johnson candidate. Like him she doesn't appear to have have a single a single belief in anything other than her own advancement.
She now says backing remain was 'a mistake' and then went on to sing the praises of 'the opportunities of Brexit'
She didn't have any answer as to how borrowing 40 billion quid to fund tax cuts was economically responsible in the present climate, whereas she'd slated about for proposing a similar borrowing figure to fund investment. She was unclear as to where this forest of money trees she found is
She also made the ludicrous statement that cutting taxes will reduce inflation, despite every single economist saying it will do the exact opposite
Eh? She couldn't say how
Next ... Liz explains why black is actually white
Yes, parts of it clearly can. I don't think I'd argue against that. Do the grass root members choose the MPs though? I didn't think. As I understand, the party central politburo produced an 'A list' of favourite candidates, a second but larger list, selected a few from each and only then let the local areas choose from that final selection. All of this now comes with various diversity targets factored in (the A list was introduced under Cameron I read).
Difficult to agree about where Johnson is/was in terms of left/right, he was largely of no fixed abode. "Whatever floats the public boat today".
I suspect this also applies to Truss, only I don't think she'll be as good at it as Johnson was. She's not got the charming psychopath thing going on.
She didn’t have any answer as to how borrowing 40 billion quid to fund tax cuts was economically responsible in the present climate, whereas she’d slated about for proposing a similar borrowing figure to fund investment. She was unclear as to where this forest of money trees she found is
Tax cuts and spending are two sides of the same deficit.
They don't really borrow as explained several times. They match the deficit spend or tax cut by issuing bonds. The spending/tax cut already takes place without funding.
The bonds are paid for by the private sector with money that has already entered the economy via government issuance.
The bonds allow a drain of reserves to help control interest rates. (that bit is complex) but not necessary for the spending. Governments just choose to do it.
Ideologically though the Tories simply believe a tax cut is better for the economy. And it's mostly a vote winner. They're lying, we know. You can't cut tax and expect a boost in the economy if there's little investment being made by the government. Where does the cash come from to cut? Though I suppose there's an argument for retail taxes to be cut.
They don't need to fund either. It happens automatically. But in Tory talk funding tends to be forgotten about when it actually happens.
Ernie
I think the difference is how we view things. You dig down into the detail and see what is to you significant difference. I look at the broad picture and see those differences as insignificant when in a broad sense all the candidates are offering slight variations on the hard right policy
None of the candidates are anywhere near the conservatism of Heath imo.
She didn’t have any answer as to how borrowing 40 billion quid to fund tax cuts was economically responsible in the present climate,
The world is in a climate of popularist leaders and candidates, and has been since the financial crash 2008. Politicians could tell folks the truth about why we're not going to be able to grow the economy in any substantial way in the next half decade or so, but those people are not going to last long or get elected, as I don't think a broad swathe of the electorate is ready to hear that. I think all politicians know what they're saying is palpably false, or misleading, I think they feel like they don't have a choice.
If you think there is a space to tell the electorate the truth, may I direct you to look up the "Crisis of Confidence Speech" made by that well known multi term President; Jimmy Carter.
No it’s a “the Tories can support a black candidate” thing.
Something which is very clearly true but some people won’t accept because it doesn’t sit comfortably within their narrative.
The Tory Party has a multitude of black and asian politicians – deal with it and change the record.
I think there's a nuance there that means you're both right.
Are members of the Tory party racist - yes, particularly it seems if you broaden that to include xenophobia. Just look at half the shit Johnson and the Brexiteers have come out with.
Are the Tory party racist in their policies - yes. From the overt stuff like the hostile environment, to the simply having an ideology that disadvantages the the poorest in society which are disproportionately non-white.
Are individually Tories capable of putting that aside/denying it was a thing/doublethink and "support a black candidate" probably. It's exactly the same process this kind of person goes through when they realize a colleague is struggling through the visa and immigration system having spent their life being told that immigrants are bad people.
She didn’t have any answer as to how borrowing 40 billion quid to fund tax cuts was economically responsible in the present climate
For once I find myself agreeing with her. As long as she's not talking about slashing spending then tax cuts are a good thing, and borrowing to fill the gap entirely sensible. Even John McDonnell agrees, which is why I guess you're taking Sunak's pro-austerity, pro-recession side of the argument. I'm beginning to think Truss is a stealth socialist. Her 40 year undercover operation might well come to fruition. 😄
Please let it be truss, as it will be hilarious
For once I find myself agreeing with her. As long as she’s not talking about slashing spending then tax cuts are a good thing, and borrowing to fill the gap entirely sensible. Even John McDonnell agrees, which is why I guess you’re taking Sunak’s pro-austerity, pro-recession side of the argument. I’m beginning to think Truss is a stealth socialist. Her 40 year undercover operation might well come to fruition. 😄
Tax cuts for who? Borrowing needs paid back - by who? I've not analysed what John McDonnell says but I suspect he advocates cutting tax on low earners but keeping or even increasing taxes on the most well off. I doubt he was a fan of an across the board NI increase to stop comfortably well off eldery people's assets being taken to pay for care so their children could inherit more (probably without paying IHT).
For once I find myself agreeing with her. As long as she’s not talking about slashing spending then tax cuts are a good thing
She's not only a Tory, but a Fatcha tribute act. Of course she's on about slashing spending.
Aren't the figures being bandied about a 20% cut to all public services?
Just what we need right now... Austerity 2.0
All absolute lightweights the lot of them. Alternative facts mean you no longer need to understand or defend what you've just said or have experience to back it up. They're all little shits just mouthing the words, some do it better than others but their party in power has ransacked this country, they've collaborated with that and they're offering no alternatives.
On the plus side, however, it has brought into sharp focus the vacuity of identity politics.
Not much to look forward to nowadays but Truss as prime minister will be such a chuckle. Boris'more stupid sister.
It would be great if it all was a ruse and Corbin gets a cabinet position.
I think this is probably a pretty accurate summary
https://twitter.com/13sarahmurphy/status/1549840894047752193?s=20&t=cEFLZrr3-ATXVE_ZJ8DTpg
Of course she’s on about slashing spending.
Yep, low taxes and low public services - the true tory way of I'm alright jack.
For example - you want healthcare, you had better get some health insurance
Recession will come and they will have to spend one way or another.
It will be like the pandemic where they say they have to do it. So I would disregard their electioneering pledges for now.
Eh? I saw a bus that said they'd be £350 a week saving from the EU that could be used for the NHS.
The Tory Party is diverse? Don't make me laugh the choice is between two candidates with PPE degrees from different Oxford Colleges (a form of diversity I suppose but no real diversity of life experience).
It will always struggle to be diverse socially. The tory party will typically attract a certain sort of person for MP. Anyone else who wants to be an MP for whatever reasons is unlikely to choose teh Tory party to stand for.
A mate just sent me this, his take on it: "it's amazing I love it and I want to die" which is a perfect somethingion of what our experience of a Liz Truss Prime Ministership will be.
This one is always worth revisiting. Just because there’s so much of it to look forward to over the next couple of years.
We can all have a good laugh while crying inside
https://twitter.com/mrmichaelspicer/status/1219553367422169089?s=21&t=HJk967A1wKQYsK28OkGSDw
I wonder how dirty it will get?
Thers a faction taht really dont want Dunak im- the Johnson cultists are livid with him
could see lots of leaks about his tax affairs etc
That said Truss 'allegedly' had Mark Fields kid when she was his SPAD & was on that spreadsheet of the Whips (Pincher & Elphicke were flagged there too)
https://twitter.com/Portesbleus/status/1550037048152788992
Thing is, if we as a country don’t want the Tories to choose such arse awful leaders, the only way to stop that happening, is to join the party.
This. Absolutely this. In Scotland it costs you a quid. Bring the party down from the inside.
So who do I vote for this time? Sunak seems vaguely competent, possibly too rich to be easily corruptible but is more likely to win the next GE. Truss is the joker, could be very entertaining and is less likely to win the next GE but will damage the country more in the meantime. Should I just draw a cock and balls on the voting paper?
I heard Truss on the radio this morning. She sounded like someone being interviewed for a job they probably weren't going to get. I couldn't listen.
I think the next phase of this contest is going to get very nasty
Unless Sunak & Truss come to an agreement, he can stay chancellor, she becomes PM?
https://twitter.com/g_gosden/status/1550116093368225795?t=99Y1cnVoUmX8Iunkd2Zq-g&s=19
She sounded like someone being interviewed for a job they probably weren’t going to get. I couldn’t listen.
Thats the thing though Molls. In any sane country the idea of someone as dim and utterly devoid of ...well... anything! as her becoming PM is patently absurd. She should be nowhere near a junior ministerial job, let alone the PM. But this is Brexit Britain and her ascent to the throne has been all but inevitable for ages now. Just as sure as Borises was before her.
We really are an international laughing stock
Watching her as PM is going to be like watching a particularly excruciating episode of The Office. Theres going to be so many David Brent moments to laugh at before realising that its not actually funny because this malfunctioning 'speak-your-weight' machine really is the Prime Minister. You didn't dream it
Will Wragg...
My word
That's some list but this one's possibly the oddest!
Purely hypothetically: what would happen if the dirt about to be dished forces both of them out of the race?
Does the whole thing start again?
The idea of Mutually Assured Destruction through briefing tabloid gossip against each other is something that would be so fitting for this whole farce.
The shittest nuclear stand-off ever
I mean Rishi has some big financial skeletons especially if you look at his wife's business deals.
I'm not sure if truss is stupid, I think she's just not as Cunning as the rest of them and that shows as being slow to reply.
Either way it's making the case for passport controls at Gretna more likely