Tangent, but those “safety devices” are the opposite.
Ah .... absolutely.
But of course these are just one of those devices that new parents are "pressured" into buying or we fail our parenting.
philjunior
Is one more than zero?
Totally irrelevant question.
The relevant question is what were the thresholds used in the study.
Simple example:
I drink alcohol very occasionally, certainly not weekly and will quite often go a month without drinking. I can't remember the last time I had more than 4 units.
Studies show that consumption of alcohol is bad in multiple ways.
Pick any ... whichever you like and show how my 2-3 units/month has such a devastating affect on my health that drinking alcohol should be made illegal.
tjagain
steve – the evidence on hitting children is clear – and the only way to have a workable line is to make it a clear one ie no hitting children.
It's not clear ... but that's a different story.
It requires a bit more clarity..
I don't for example agree that Cougar hitting the bully was a bad thing or that evidence shows that it is... if you mean parents beating the shit out of children then I can wholeheartedly agree
I'm being a pedant on this for the next part... not simply to disagree.
Yes its harsh that it penalises people in your position – but greater good of the greater number and all that?
No because this makes an assumption that the majority of parents who smack their kids are beating them.
It also lacks or perhaps changes specificity and is open to a whole load of abuse... in any case authorities are obliged to press for a prosecution regardless.
The current situation as described by the BBC link...
"This is because a person accused of assaulting of a child can claim a defence of "reasonable chastisement" or "justifiable assault" when they have used physical force as a form of discipline on children under the age of 16.
When deciding whether the chastisement was reasonable, the courts take into account factors such as the nature of the punishment, its duration and frequency, the age of the child and the effect - both physical and mental - it had on them."
No steve its perfectly clear unless you want to delibertaly conflate things that are irrelevant. The law is not assuming all parents are beating children. Its clearly states that hitting children as a punishment is illegal.
I don’t for example agree that Cougar hitting the bully was a bad thing
Are you seriously argueing that an adult should be allowed to hit a child as punishment?- its clearly illegal in scotland and whats more so under English law and adult hitting a child that is not theirs would also be illegal if done out of temper or as punishment
Of course a child can still hit a child so you can still teach your children to fight back.
You can also still restrain a child
You can intervene in a fight between children or between a group of bullies and victim child using minimal and proportionate force - and dependent on situation that could include punching, kicking, using a weapon so long as it was proportionate
You seem determined to try to justify hitting children by creating weird outlandish situations and by completely distorting what the law says
No steve its perfectly clear unless you want to delibertaly conflate things that are irrelevant. The law is not assuming all parents are beating children. Its clearly states that hitting children as a punishment is illegal.
Are you seriously argueing that an adult should be allowed to hit a child as punishment?- its clearly illegal in scotland and whats more so under English law and adult hitting a child that is not theirs would also be illegal if done out of temper or as punishment
Define "hit" ...
The problem I see is that this is being worded in such a manner that conflates and that anyone against the act is supporting hitting or beating children.
and the backdrop is that "this isn't teaching children that violence is always wrong" is again conflated with anyone saying otherwise being told they are saying that violence is a default answer to everything.
When did you stop beating your children TJ?