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Thanks Daz but the bike only cost me 20 quid, I bought it so that I could leave round the back of the local shops without bothering to lock it up.

Although I've fallen strangely in love with it. It's got coaster brakes which I have never used before, more weird than I expected.


 
Posted : 07/07/2021 7:41 pm
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Yes mate “achievement”, independence for India was an achievement which Labour should be proud of

The Labour government rushed it, bodged it, and left millions dead or displaced as refugees.

Seatpost? Cut it off. Cut a slit in it where the frame has a slit. Fit a smaller diameter post. Will probably need shims.


 
Posted : 07/07/2021 7:42 pm
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Unfortunately I haven't got a workbench vice Bill.

I've mullered the post enough with a selection of tools.

I might give the CO2 thing a go, never heard of it before.


 
Posted : 07/07/2021 7:45 pm
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Starmer needs to gain the confidence to tell the Speaker to do one when he lets Johnson get away with nothing further than a gentle ticking off.

Ian Blackford is the only competent opposition at the moment.


 
Posted : 07/07/2021 7:49 pm
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Christ I leave this thread for 48hrs or so to do some filming stuff, come back and we're talking about India!

If you think 13 years of Nu Labour didn't look anything like 13 years of Tory rule, in any kind of reality, you need your bumps feeling

That works better.

It was still market economics with shiny Guardian tinkering at the seems to make a Centrist's feel competent if not ideological. Nicely deregulated markets and BoE 'independence'.


 
Posted : 07/07/2021 7:59 pm
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Ernie, know anyone with an empty chest freezer?


 
Posted : 07/07/2021 7:59 pm
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I don't know anyone with enough room in their freezer for a bike colp, if that's what you're thinking.


 
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Posted : 07/07/2021 8:37 pm
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Now we’ve expanded the brief from Israel to India, I’ve found a documentary series to do some research on the subject


 
Posted : 07/07/2021 10:25 pm
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Yes! Binners has regained his picture posting mojo!!

What happened geezer?.... I was getting worried you had lost your spark recently.


 
Posted : 07/07/2021 10:45 pm
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I’m like Cav. I’m having a renaissance

For your seat post: take the wheels off, put the seat/seat post in a vice, then turn the frame. It gives you the leverage, rather than fancying around trying to turn a seat post


 
Posted : 07/07/2021 10:54 pm
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Unfortunately I haven’t got a workbench vice

You don't need a vice. Just a suitably sized gap between two immovable objects to insert the saddle into, then twist like hell.

Also applicable for many politicians.


 
Posted : 07/07/2021 11:02 pm
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Also applicable for many politicians.

Made me laugh.


 
Posted : 07/07/2021 11:04 pm
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Thanks binners and Mark, unfortunately my powerful vice-like grip simply managed to disconnect the saddle fixing gubbins from the rest of the seat post, so I was left with a post but no saddle, making it even harder to ride the bike than having the seat a couple of inches too low.

I've jammed it back on, it's very tight so should still be able to ride down to the shops.

I might give the Sheldon Brown suggestion of lowering the temperature of the aluminium post with CO2 sometime, trying to figure out if a hot water bottle wrapped round the steel frame at the same time is worth attempting.

I can see myself spunking all my CO2 cylinders with "let's give it one more try".

And Keir Starmer thinks he's got problems, eh?!


 
Posted : 07/07/2021 11:26 pm
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Chop the post close to the frame and then get a hacksaw blade and saw from the inside. Massively time consuming but will get it.


 
Posted : 07/07/2021 11:52 pm
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I would do that if it was only a few inches into the seat tube, but God knows how long it is. I don't even know if it won't be longer than the hacksaw blade minus the bit you need to hold. Can you imagine how springy and whipping around the end of the hacksaw blade would be?! At least I can still ride it as it is.

I thought I had sussed it when I put the bike upside and squirted dismantling spray through the bottle cage boss hole. I guess though it simply went into the inside of the seat post, and my cunning plan failed.


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 12:16 am
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At least I can still ride it as it is.

Err, what’s the problem then?

Anyway, just ride it round Keir Starmer’s neck of the woods (you can’t be far from him) and he’ll eventually run you over in his Range Rover and mangle the bike, making the seat post a non-issue.


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 12:45 am
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The seat is a couple of inches too low, it's single speed, and I live on a hill. Apart from there isn't a problem.

Yeah Starmer was brought up not that far from me, no idea where he lives now, but making the national headlines as the man who stalked Starmer on a 20 quid bike with the seat too low doesn't appeal to me that much.

If nothing else I'd like to get the saddle up to a reasonable height just for my self-respect.


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 12:59 am
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Who are “they”?

Anyone the aforementioned 'white working class heroes' are jealous of, basically.

Yep, that's the way to do it in Brexit Britain - appeal to resentment and petty jealousy.

🤔


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 9:08 am
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Just a suitably sized gap between two immovable objects

Ernie stand next to Binners then... (sorry folks couldn't resist. 😉 )

@ernielynch - can you heat the steel frame up instead of the alu seatpost to try and loosen it that way? Alternatively, if you don't mind knackering the seat post completely, instead of a vice, drill a hole through the vertical sides of the seat post - large bolt and nut - then everyone's favourite fix - hit bolt with a lump hammer.


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 9:23 am
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Thanks fazzini but I can't see how I can heat up the frame without getting the seat post hot. If aluminium expands and contracts twice as much as steel then the CO2 route seems logical. I'm thinking of somehow squirting it through the bottle cage boss.

Destroying the seat post and spending forever trying to remove a chemically bonded post out of 20 quid bike just isn't worth it. I'm better off finding someone 2 inches shorter than me who wants a weird single speed bike with coaster brakes, mary bars, and Conti gp 4000 tyres (I changed the handlebars and tyres)

Sorry the thread has been somewhat derailed, it was just meant as a casual comment as between posting I was making various failed attempts to get a bastard seat post out.

Someone please post something interesting about Keir Starmer. Or failing that can binners post some pictures?


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 10:15 am
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The crack running through the LP, particularly heighted by SKS in post, is between (most of) the PLP who are welded to capitalism (manage it better than the capitalists themselves, tax it a little when things are going up, bit of trickle down) and are happy to shift gear in response to the needs of the powerful or in response to a perceived right turn in the electorate. Alongside this you have CLPs where you will find socialists who wish to see a more egalitarian transformation of society. The two positions are irreconcilable hence all this squabbling about who said what and different leaders, it's a great way of preoccupying people with harmless irrelevance whilst big business carries on making killings.
Although I have always voted Labour currently I do wonder why. I can't describe a single policy beyond getting a grip, no magic money tree, defence is the first priority, support for apartheid and elect us please.


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 10:17 am
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Someone please post something interesting about Keir Starmer.

I think you have got to the heart of the problem, there isn't anything interesting


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 10:38 am
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Back on topic.


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 10:43 am
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Juno I've had one of those SKS bottle holders for years, I occasionally use it for long rides such as Brighton and back, it is an exceptionally clever bit of kit. It is incredibly easy to put on and despite giving the opposite impression it remains securely fixed with a vice-like grip. Highly recommended.

Shame the same can't be said about Keir Starmer.


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 11:10 am
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As a casual thread observer it seems to have turned into the “have a go at Binners” thread.

Quite frankly, this thread is pretty boring. But Binners needs to make it all about him, so we're only too happy to oblige because that's far more entertaining. But having thought about it a bit; for all the naive, ignorant, woefully ill-considered rubbish he's posted, and the torrent of abuse he's hurled at anyone who sees things just a bit differently, for all the utter hypocrisy, I'm actually left wondering if this isn't really a way of presenting such ideas and sentiments, in order that they can be challenged and exposed for what they are. You know, how you'd perhaps get some rabid anti-migrant gammon frother on a debate programme, in order that other, more intelligent, knowledgeable and thoughtful people can expose their crap arguments and show everyone else what utter nonsense it really is. Perhaps Binners is channeling the spirit of Lawrence Fox, to present a piñata for others to smack down. Because that would be very, very clever. Perhaps Binners should be celebrated for his contribution to this thread, rather than simply seen as the pub gobshite.


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 11:12 am
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Morning Comrade

You say the nicest things 🙂


 
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Juno I’ve had one of those SKS bottle holders for years, I occasionally use it for long rides such as Brighton and back, it is an exceptionally clever bit of kit. It is incredibly easy to put on and despite giving the opposite impression it remains securely fixed with a vice-like grip. Highly recommended.

Shame the same can’t be said about Keir Starmer.

😀 Lol!

I've got SKS mudguards on my bike. They've performed near-faultlessly for many years, quietly and effectively doing their job without issue.

Shame the same can’t be said about Keir Starmer.


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 11:16 am
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Although I have always voted Labour currently I do wonder why. I can’t describe a single policy beyond getting a grip, no magic money tree, defence is the first priority, support for apartheid and elect us please.

Take a look at Green party policies. As a former Labour supporter they are closer to what I would want.
Of course the Green party are A LOT less likely to get into power then even a Starmer Labour party.


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 11:20 am
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Perhaps Binners should be celebrated for his contribution to this thread, rather than simply seen as the pub gobshite.

The gobshite is Binners now?, when did it transfer from you?


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 11:21 am
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So do we think all this football hysteria will provide an advantage for Starmer or not? Everyone knows Johnson isn't a real football supporter despite his bandwagon jumping so I think Keir needs to capitalise as much as he can. Perhaps be seen in the stands with his shirt on singing with the rest of the plebs? There's a photo opportunity there which shouldn't be missed.


 
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The gobshite is Binners now?, when did it transfer from you?

Very good! Give yourself a biscuit.


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 11:53 am
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Everyone knows Johnson isn’t a real football supporter despite his bandwagon jumping so I think Keir needs to capitalise as much as he can.

Nah... the genius is, anything bad about Johnson (pulling a shirt over his collar and tie noticeably inauthentic by all) just gets spread around... "all politicians are just as fake/opportunist". Johnson's bandwagon jumping will be met with... "they're all pretending to like football now... all the same they are".

Starmer will no doubt try what you suggest, the focus group stuff will be saying it's essential... but it won't cut through one little bit.


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 11:56 am
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Very good! Give yourself a biscuit.

Call yourself a socialist?

Why don't we all get a biscuit?

Biscuit production figures are up yet again, comrade. Had you not heard? A cause for celebration, no?


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 12:08 pm
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You can have a biscuit too Binners.

Rod Liddle; biscuit crumbs on his clothes


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 12:12 pm
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Hungy now.


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 12:15 pm
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With Keir's crumbling support, we need a Lincoln or a Garibaldi!


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 12:22 pm
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“all politicians are just as fake/opportunist”

Except it's fairly common knowledge that Starmer is an long-time Arsenal fan and a decent amateur footballer himself so I'm not sure he's vulnerable to the accusation of bandwagon jumping. I'm not keen on manufactured photo opps but a pic of him watching on Sunday in the stands with the rest of the fans whilst Johnson lords it in the royal box is surely too good to miss.


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 12:25 pm
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You say it's common knowledge... most people still know nothing about him.


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 12:27 pm
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most people still know nothing about him.

Well here's a perfect opportunity to be using the football to correct that. Tony Blair took full advantage in 96, although I never really believed he was a toon fan.


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 12:31 pm
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Well here’s a perfect opportunity to be using the football to correct that.

I'm pretty sure he'll try.

Johnson had a photo op standing on a giant flag outside number ten. Good luck to Starmer.


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 12:32 pm
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With Keir’s crumbling support, we need a Lincoln or a Garibaldi!

See? This is what I love.


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 12:42 pm
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With Keir’s crumbling support, we need a Lincoln or a Garibaldi!

Chapeau sir

Sorry off-topic, but as kids we used to call Garibaldis - Garibogies...seemed so hilarious back then.


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 12:48 pm
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Update - just had a Bahlsen Choco Leibniz Dark with my loose leaf tea.


 
Posted : 08/07/2021 1:40 pm
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I’ve always been a fan of the Peek Freen Trotsky assortment myself.


 
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