Well the “they are all the same” narrative clearly is false as Anderson chose to leave the labour party on account of, in his own words:
'The takeover of the Labour Party by the hard left'
So he clearly went over to somewhere where he felt more at home. And given the views he's expressed since I can't see how he ever associated himself with labour in any way.
Given his Daily Mail-esque views and character, can you envisage any eventuality where he would have ended up as Deputy Chairman of the Labour Party? or indeed in any role in the party on a national level?
Yet according to your “they are all the same” narrative, that would have been on the cards then, surely?
Getting back on topic: Sunak appointing 30p Lee is just more of the same. The ERG headbanger brigade wagging the Tory dog, yet again. They all love him, but it just shows you is just how weak Rishi is in dealing with them, and how he's as willing to give in to their demands as his predecessors
The Tory party is essentially UKIP and lets be honest... Lee Anderson would have felt just as at home with Farage and co
"Given his Daily Mail-esque views and character,"
And you think he was a completely different person with a different character 4 years ago?
I find him a strange example to offer of how different the parties are when he so seamlessly moved from one to the other.
Surely there must be better examples than some geezer who was a complete arsehole in the Labour Party 4 years ago and is now a complete arsehole in the Tory Party?
"Yet according to your “they are all the same” narrative,".
It's not my narrative. Daz pointed out that is how many potential voters see the situation and why they don't bother voting. I can't say that I am entirely surprised.
He's a sly ol' dog Zelensky.... he's backed Sunak into a corner with the request for jets.... Joint press conference now should be interesting "well mr prime minister are you going to supply fighter jets?"
30p Lee was a Labour councillor until he defected to the Tories about 4 years ago.
Not really a defection, he was suspended from the Labour party, then he left.
It's only a matter of time before jets are supplied I would say. I can't but think, just like tanks, it would have shortened the war and the suffering to have supplied them far sooner.
Sorry to cross the streams guys.
Surely there must be better examples than some geezer who was a complete arsehole in the Labour Party 4 years ago and is now a complete arsehole in the Tory Party?
Had anyone ever heard of Lee Anderson before he became a Tory MP?
Nah he was suspended for 4 months. He chose to leave and join the Tory Party after that.
There is no reason to assume that he wouldn't be in the Labour Party today if he hadn't chosen to leave - he wasn't kicked out.
"Had anyone ever heard of Lee Anderson before he became a Tory MP?"
Yup, he made the headlines when he blocked his road alledgedly to stop travellers.
The Daily Mail loved the story:
https://www.****/news/article-5328791/Man-blocks-car-park-stop-travellers-setting-camp.html
Although they omitted to mention that he was a Labour councillor in the headline, you have to read the article to find that out.
What if those voters know that nothing will change as a result of their vote and so stay at home? Are they morons as Kerley would have us believe, or are they rational people who can’t see the point in doing something that will have no effect?
As has been previously said (by you I believe but apologies if I'm misremembering) re: Brexit some people were duped and voted for change, any change. Now that's not the best example granted, but if you dont like what is happening (re government) then voting for another party at least gives the chance of a change that may be positive. To not vote is giving up on even the chance of a positive change.
PMQs is the only time anyone actually sees [...] him
That's because he is very small and generally hidden from view by the adult-size hi-viz jacket from his dressing-up box 🙂
They all love their cosplay, don’t they? Boris, Instagram <span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">Liz and now Rishi, pretending what it’s like to have a proper job. </span>
I blame George Osbourne and his ‘Northern Powerhouse’ schtick for starting all this nonsense
It goes back a lot longer than these clowns. Thatcher loved a bit of cosplay!
To be fair to him Ernie, not wanting a pikey to have a poo in your back garden is not necessarily a party political issue 😂
To put your bigotry to one side for a moment it is. The Tories create the conditions which encourages it and then complain about it.
A Labour government introduced the Caravan Sites Act 1968 which placed a statutory obligation on local authorities to provide halting sites, it resulted in 400 being established.
Thatcher, pandering to bigots, scrapped the legal requirement of local authorities to provide halting sites. And now the Tories, and the usual right-wingers, unsurprisingly complain where travellers stop.
And btw Anderson was not suspended from the Labour Party but temporarily from the Ashfield District Council Labour group, after being issued with community protection warning by the council.
'Nothing off the table' , 'option', 'long term' ....bombast.
Let's not get distracted by Tinkertown or Knackeragua.
pretending what it’s like to have a proper job
He does have a proper job, he just isn't doing it properly.
Zelensky is a really good political operator and he knows darn well I am sure that he is being used by Johnson and Sunak to make themselves look big on the world stage - and he is using that to get what he wants.
He’s a sly ol’ dog Zelensky…. he’s backed Sunak into a corner with the request for jets….
But you can't just hand over a jet. It's months of training and a huge resource to keep them flying. Hard enough with tanks and missile systems.
Great publicity to ask, but there were good reasons even Boris didn't do it.
Oh FFS, how do you do quotes nowadays 🤦♂️
[quote="morecashthandash"]Oh FFS, how do you do quotes nowadays
Dunno - I just tried to be clever and it didn't work!
Oh FFS, how do you do quotes nowadays
maybe this works?
Oh FFS, how do you do quotes nowadays
I find that it is mostly through luck than design these days.
Tip: If at first you don't succeed keep trying.
Are people having problems quoting on their pc's? Works like a charm on my android with Chrome. Not tried on my pc yet though.
Are people having problems quoting on their pc’s? Works like a charm on my android with Chrome. Not tried on my pc yet though.
Testing
Testing
I have just vaguely mastered it. I am going to take the plunge and try bold and italics next.
Bleedin 'ell I think that worked.
It just messed up for me on another thread when I didn't remember to "paste as plain text."
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Zelensky: Buffalo or Montane?
But you can’t just hand over a jet. It’s months of training and a huge resource to keep them flying. Hard enough with tanks and missile systems.
Does the UK even have any "spare" jets to give?!
Plus it's not just the aircraft, it's the whole parts, maintenance, training and support packages...
Lee Anderson is perfect for his role in the current death-spiraling government, he's just chaff thrown out behind the plane to deflect incoming missiles. He seems to know what his role is, and is playing it with gusto. Today, it's the return of the death penalty, tomorrow it will be public flogging for striking nurses, the day after it will be burning books, sinking small boats, and making homosexuality illegal again.
The alternative to Anderson is more coverage of stuff that is actually more problematic for Sunak.
Well Lee Anderson might as well make the most of it whilst he can, in about 18 months time he will no longer be an MP.
The recognition boost you get from getting on the news regularly is the only chance he has, and hitting the Daily Mail talking points hard will help a bit, but you have to hope that the people of Ashfield will send him packing. Perhaps they should find their Deputy Chairman a safer seat in the shires? 🙂
the day after it will be ... sinking small boats
Apologies, didn't realise he'd already more or less covered this one.
Anderson is an odd one set up his own food bank to then try and say they are not needed.
He is perfect distraction material for us all to marvel at. At least he never went to Eton. 8 thousand majority is going to be tougher to turn over than you might think with ID voting and low turn out
Lee Anderson is perfect for his role in the current death-spiraling government, he’s just chaff thrown out behind the plane to deflect incoming missiles.
Everything Sunak announced the other day is utterly and completely pointless chaff. Literally rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic
He's created a minister for Net Zero when he leads a party of climate deniers who won't allow onshore wind and are funded by the fossil fuel lobby. Also, a Minister for International Trade when he leads a party of Brexiteers who have just made trading with our neighbours infinitely harder and are still in denial about it and daren't admit the bleeding obvious - that Brexit is a disaster
So its just complete paralysis, at best, but more likely continued economic decline until the inevitable general election loss
He’s created a minister for Net Zero when he leads a party of climate deniers who won’t allow onshore wind and are funded by the fossil fuel lobby.
To be fair, appointing Grant Shapps as that minister is quite appropriate given that Shapps has generally achieved Net Zero in most of his roles ...
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He’s a sly ol’ dog Zelensky…. he’s backed Sunak into a corner with the request for jets….
If this quote doesn't work frankly I don't care...
It's pretty impressive watching zelensky, especially because it's mostly so simple and so obvious. Go to every country and give the leaders some photo ops, shake some hands, give them what they want knowing none of it really matters. Be a distraction, who cares. And in return, always demand too much, so that sometimes you get enough, and then immediately demand more. He does the cosplay thing but simply and effectively, it's not like he's trying to make Sunak look ridiculous.
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What the actual **** is he doing wearing a pilots helmet and his grandad's coat?
It didn't help the dark side much in yesterday's West Lancashire by-election.
Anderson bounce
https://twitter.com/ChrisKimberley/status/1624175422932918273?t=3JVglXY6h3zu_Be8nV0ilA&s=19
Bit of an Outlier poll tbf, but still, squeaky bum time in cchq
I expect a flurry of policy announcements in the run up to the locals (which will obvs come to nothing a immediately after the vote).
Local results anything like the present polling numbers wiould see a leadership challenge within days
Anderson bounce
I don't suppose that many people know much about the new deputy chairman of the Conservative Party, or that the position has recently been taken.
The visit to the UK from president of Ukraine on the other hand is a different matter. Many will have seen Rishi Sunak playing the part of being a world leader greeting Zelensky, and they will have known that the UK was only the second country that he had visited following the Russian invasion.
So this is the Zelensky bounce.
The Tories really are totally buggered ...... they couldn't even get a very slight blip of extra support from Rishi Sunak playing the role of world leader.
Whatever Liz Truss did to the Tory Party the effect appears to be chronic and long lasting. I can't see anything saving the Tories from electoral disaster.
Darth Helmet vibes are strong in this one.
The Mk15 passenger helmet; one size fits none.
Bring back hanging and the birch. The horrible old ****s that always vote are all over that shit, they love it.
do find it odd that the Lib dem share is decreasing.... Labour traditionally do better with Liberals stealing a share of the tory vote. Perhaps an extended coalition hang over (the middle man vote went tory now swung to labour).
Grubby Hands
Not as grubby as the deputy chair, mind
https://twitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1624539274401001475?t=iveJuNuDkVLY96P1TmEVZA&s=19
