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Which is all well and good when the information that people are getting about it is factual and presented in a calm and reasonable way.
Probably best to scrap general elections too in that case.
I'm liking Poly's approach on this. We need more pragmatism. Migration can't be stopped, that's futile. Getting people to work the menial jobs, for cash-in-hand when they arrive, just fixes so many problems.
Currently, lots of Albanian kids end up as drug runners, for example. It would be more sensible to at least know where they are and what they are doing.
Also, there has been an explosion in birth rates in some African countries recently, but those economies just can't handle the extra people. Sending people back/to Rwanda is effectively a death sentence. The illegality/danger of channel crossings pale in comparison.
If you want Albania, Bangladesh et al to fix their own problems and stop the exodus of people to the UK, at least put some effort into developing those countries via trade so the economy can support it's own population.
Definite non big hitter here!
Genuine question, can I ask what negative impact immigration has had on you and your families lives?
In my 54 years its not caused me one issue, the opposite in fact, perhaps I'm not representative though?
In more recent times and at a time I really needed the help with a serious diagnosis, most of the doctors and nurses that have helped me are either from a different country or likely the children of immigrants. Ditto the cleaners and the staff making and serving the hospital meals, oh, and the porters.
The social workers that were out today to review mum, first generation immigrants (going by accent).
But it's not just social care and NHS roles (massively important as they are to me and millions of others), the guys in my local shop, the taxi drivers (I'm not driving at the moment), our new neighbours etc etc are all lovely people and are contributing to society, not taking from it.
I'm honestly curious to hear what experiences in your lifes are different to mine? You certainly won't be getting an argument back from me either.👍
This is make or break for the Tories – an issue that can place clear blue water between the Government and Labour.
If Mr Sunak is serious about restoring his party’s fortunes, he can’t just roll out reams of legislation to convince voters he’s intent on stopping the boats. He must have the political will and moral courage to use it.
That ^^ is from a Daily Mail editorial, I find it hugely reassuring and heartwarming as it confirms that they are so politically/intellectually bankrupt that it really is the only thing that they have left in their armoury.
"Make or break for the Tories" LOL! 😆
If the Daily Mail editorial writers believe that UK voters are such rabid bigots that they will ignore everything else and rush out and vote Tory in the coming local and general election on just that "make or break" issue, then they have probably been spending too much time on STW 😂
Where did I say I was against immigration?
If I didn’t have kids and family ties I’d be out of this country like a shot and be happy to leave it to whoever wants it. It re ian’s a regular day dream about how the grass might be greener
(Brother in law has settled in NZ)
https://twitter.com/LouisaJamesITV/status/1633156203701485568?t=NmgCD8-Lz3Bmu9Z0LFwLCA&s=19
Gotta love a three word slogan... 😳
believe that UK voters are such rabid bigots that they will ignore everything else and rush out and vote Tory in the coming local and general election on just that “make or break” issue
It's only aimed at a small minority of voters... but without those voters these current Tories have no chance of staying in power. People voting against their own interests, because it is also a vote against immigrants... we've seen enough of that to know it happens. It's a small number of voters, but could be enough to swing results. Again.
So let’s get this clear, the country isn’t in a mess because the Irish, the carribeans, Indians ,gays, EU or lefties it’s the people that turn up in the boats?
I really can’t keep up with who’s fault it is anymore.
If we don't have the immigrants, they'll start looking back at tbe other groups
I just love how the Daily Mail leader writers believe it is the most important issue, a "make or break" issue on fact. It's not a minor issue like NHS waiting times, it's a major issue - a handful of desperate people risking their lives in tiny leaky boats.
Do they actually believe that shite or are they just having a laugh. Coz I think it's ****ing hilarious 😊
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Where did I say I was against immigration?
Sorry, I misinterpreted your posts then and cheers for replying to the "@".👍
"Stop the Boats"
I hope the first question the PM is asked when standing in front of that (assuming it's not photoshopped) is "PM are you releasing your post brexit fisheries policy today?"
Which is all well and good when the information that people are getting about it is factual and presented in a calm and reasonable way.
People can see through that stuff. Everyone knows the tabloids are full of lies. They know the news is owned by the likes of Murdoch. They probably know the BBC is full of shit (that's less certain admittedly). Yes the media influences the way people vote, but maybe that's because people don't take their votes very seriously? Being one person in 60,000 voting for an MP who has very little power doesn't motivate you to inform yourself or think about it too much, or bother to vote in the first place. Give people a vote on whether to close their local A&E dept though or increase funding for their kids school and they'll think for themselves and figure out what is in their best interests. The value of voting and having votes is proportional to the power people have of defending and promoting their individual and collective interests.
Genuine question, can I ask what negative impact immigration has had on you and your families lives?
It’s brought us the parents of Sunak, Patel, Braverman and some of Johnson’s recent ancestors!
How much of this headline grabbing stuff is cribbed straight across from Australian right wing politics? And who's in charge of the PR/messaging?
How much of this headline grabbing stuff is cribbed straight across from Australian right wing politics?
Well the Daily Mail isn't just stealing headlines from Australia, they are also getting an alledged Australian ex-Foreign Minister to right whole articles for them:
It's not even in the top ten most viewed pages on the BBC website, despite being the top story on the front page all day.
FFS. Three word slogans are back. You can tell which bit of the electorate they're pandering to.
Said it a few times, but the UK, and many western nations need immigration to continue to grow at the required rates, we just need to be able to weed out the criminals and so on, but it's bigger than just the UK unfortunately, there's a lot of nations in the EU and wider who are more preoccupied with keeping their right wingers happy that they're sacrificing their required immigration for balance.
It's the same story across all of it for me, look at drugs, we put so much effort and money into combating it all, instead of legalising certain ones, and then refocusing resources on the ones you want to crush, it's the same with many things unfortunately, and with the right, or the blue rinse brigade, change won't happen.
"How much of this headline grabbing stuff is cribbed straight across from Australian right wing politics"
All of it...
This was the Mail on Sunday front page two days ago:
https://www.tomorrowspapers.co.uk/weekend-front-page-2023-03-05/
The same day as Redfield & Wilton Strategies carried out an opinion poll which gave Labour a 26% lead over the Tories.
https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/latest-gb-voting-intention-5-march-2023/
So no bounce yet then.
Where did I say I was against immigration?
Ditto, our country is in dire straits after all the European immigrants went home, people who were culturally similar and net contributors to our society.
What I object to is the assumption all people in small boats are fleeing horrendous persecution, many are, many are fleeing economic hardship. I'd like an adult conversation about how many people and of what status we take each year. I'm also prepared to accept we probably don't take our fair share compared to many of our European neighbours.
I'd also like us as a country to be much more organised about how we deal with immigration, swiftly and fully dealing with each case on its merits, returning those who dont meet the criteria and supporting those that do properly. I don't want to see cases taking years to assess and people left in limbo.
Personally immigration hasn't had many negative effects on me and a lot of positives in terms of culture and food. However living in the North West of England I also see the negative impacts on societal values by some of the immigrant groups, the treatment of women, lack of tolerance of other cultures, failure to adhere to basic health and safety standards in business. For me though immigration is mainly positive.
I wouldn’t risk my family in an illegal attempt trying to reach another country if I was safe where I was, no matter how uncomfortable. that’s where it goes from safety to more about comfort / economics.
Nor would your average refugee, which is why, all of a sudden, post-brexit asylum seekers are statistically more male and "fighting age". I appreciate your empathy for their situation.
What I object to is the assumption all people in small boats are fleeing horrendous persecution
The few for whom this is not the case will have their asylum application rejected. This is not about stopping them, is is about refusing to allow people to come here to apply… knowing that most of them are genuine refugees that are still not wanted here by a minority of voters that the government are seeking to motivate to turn out to vote for them.
Surely the only thing this is designed to do is be another dead cat - possibly in the run up to May elections, maybe there's another scandal they're trying to cover or bury...?
It's not workable, it'll fail the moment it meets reality and then they'll blame lefties and woke liberals for "letting the country down", tell everyone that they're the only party that can be trusted with immigration and it'll be hack to normal levels of Tory grifting.
This is what happens when both parties feel they need to keep pushing right to 'solve' problems.
https://twitter.com/SKinnock/status/1633075254850379776?t=3yzrMVHZhcTxCd_ptlfVoQ&s=19
Ditto, our country is in dire straits after all the European immigrants went home, people who were culturally similar and net contributors to our society.
What do mean by culturally similar and net contributors to our society?
Are you suggesting that this proposed legislation is aimed at people who (ironically like our Prime Minister and Home Secretary) aren't from a white European christian culture, and apparently not net contributors?
I also see the negative impacts on societal values by some of the immigrant groups, the treatment of women, lack of tolerance of other cultures, failure to adhere to basic health and safety standards
What the hell has that got to do with what is being discussed here? Are you suggesting that the immigration officer who is processing an asylum claim at the Home Office should be considered these issues before granting asylum?
If the cultural background of those arriving in small boats is an important issue how come Rishi Sunak never mentioned it today?
I take it that you voted remain, with your apparent attitude I can see why.
I also see the negative impacts on societal values by some of the immigrant groups, the treatment of women, lack of tolerance of other cultures, failure to adhere to basic health and safety standards in business.
AS IF that has anything to do with race!
I can take you to plenty of places full of white people displaying all those characteristics. THIS is exactly what modern racism looks like. You see white people behaving badly and they're just gits, but you see brown people behaving badly and it's a race issue.
I found the core vote for this one:
Smell my cheese!
What do mean by culturally similar and net contributors to our society?
I would have thought that was relatively clear but given your Brexity tendencies obviously not.
What the hell has that got to do with what is being discussed here?
That was a direct answer to a question poopscoop asked which question how immigration had negatively impacted me. Nice of you to ignore the parts of my post where I said that immigration is generally a good thing.
AS IF that has anything to do with race!
Who mentioned race? I was referring to cultural and behavioural problems associated with some immigrant communities, nothing to, do with someone's race unless you assume (wrongly) that someone's skin colour defines their values and culture, now that is racist.
As I said before it's a bit pointless trying to have a grown up conversation about this when it's all about pint scoring.
Nice of you to ignore the parts of my post where I said that immigration is generally a good thing.
I am not ignoring that at all. I totally get that you approve of immigration into the UK. In fact the very first thing I did was to highlight your claim that "our country is in dire straits after all the European immigrants went home".
You obviously have no problem at all with immigration into the UK, just maybe if they aren't Europeans, and from a culture that you don't approve of. I suspect that Australians and white South Africans are just fine - obviously they would be "net contributors"
Thanks for confirming that you voted remain btw. You fit the profile of a few people I know, such as my cycling club captain who thinks the Rwanda policy is a great idea because "these people aren't genuine refugees like Ukrainians".
Going off piste. Wtf is a “cycling club captain”?
The captain of a cycling club. Have you never heard of one before?
Obviously nope, 400-500 people in my club, been going for nearly 100 years, no captain and no idea what one would do.
I was referring to cultural and behavioural problems associated with some immigrant communities
Mm hmm.
I'm also "not calling you racist" I am saying that's what modern racism looks like. Statements like that, whilst not meant badly, end up being bad. It's little drip drip of corrosive statements that float about society reinforcing subtle negatives in people's minds, and before you know it you're pulling a foreign sounding name out of the pile of CVs because they're not a good fit for your company.
So…. This El Capitan bloke? Does he have a uniform? Maybe special Lycra with a row of shiny medals printed on it?
And is it a democratic appointment? Or like some kind of hereditary peerage?
Is it a purely ceremonial role? Or does it come with all-encompassing and unaccountable power like a 1970’s South American dictator?
So many questions…
Obviously nope, 400-500 people in my club, been going for nearly 100 years, no captain and no idea what one would do.
The role of a captain is to organise the club runs, often therefore called club run captain.
I am a member of two cycling clubs, one was founded in 1881 (probably the oldest cycling club in the world) both have captains.
Bit of trivia for you - a captain of my cycling died in action during WW1. My club did ride out to France on the centenary of his death, although I didn't go.
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I am a member of two cycling clubs, one was founded in 1881 (probably the oldest cycling club in the world) both have captains.
That's got me googling for the bikes that were around back then!
That’s got me googling for the bikes that were around back then!
Its first members rode ordinaries, or penny farthings. These were superseded by safety bicycles with two equally sized wheels and chain drive to the rear, much as the cycles of today.
https://anerleybc.org/history/
I see it is still the right whingers who one again demonstrate that they are the real practitioners of cancel culture, without even a flicker of realising the irony of their whining.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64883655
I can see Lineker leaving the Beeb if they want him to keep quiet - he doesn't need their money, he'd be able to earn enough elsewhere.
The guy seems to have a genuine conscience, despite his money.
I see it is still the right whingers who one again demonstrate that they are the real practitioners of cancel culture, without even a flicker of realising the irony of their whining.
The far right are the biggest bunch of snowflakes around. Happy to use inciteful language themselves, happy to stir up division, use racist tropes etc (that's "freedom of speech" and "telling it like it is") then when anyone describes them as racist or far-right, they run screaming to mummy cos the bad person called them names and tried to "cancel" them. Then they get their mates in the media to run hatchet jobs on the woke lefties...
Sadiq Khan faced similar at a recent anti-ULEZ demo - that whole 15-min cities concept along with ULEZ and to a certain extent Low Traffic Neighbourhoods has been hijacked by the far-right and he called it out. Said there were genuine people with legitimate concerns but also that far-right groups had infiltrated these demos. Immediately they were all calling for Khan to be sacked in spite of him simply "telling it like it is".
They really don't like the "woke lefties" telling it like it is. That's reserved for their fascist views.
Was this a success from Sunaks point of view?
Culture War issues are a good distraction, being compared to Nazis Germany by the nations favourite footy presenter is what they want or not?
The whole thing seems surreal in the midst of the cozzy livs crisis
And this is just weird or 4d chess distraction strategy?
https://twitter.com/jessicaelgot/status/1633192836811112448?t=88VizJx92lzo9n405wyNSA&s=19
I am a member of two cycling clubs, one was founded in 1881 (probably the oldest cycling club in the world) both have captains.
I enjoyed the ABC website you linked to, a proper old school club ethos on that. My club seems to have lost a little of that spirit over the last few years.
So if you come legally you are free to access the UKs modern slavery system?
Presumably that covers things like car washes.
The far right are the biggest bunch of snowflakes around
I note that it was rent-a-foghorn ‘30p Lee’ Anderson who soiled his petticoats in outrage and lead the criticism of Gary Lineker voicing an opinion…
So if you come legally you are free to access the UKs modern slavery system
Presumably that covers things like car washes
Channel 4 news were interviewing migrants potentially attempting ‘small boats’ crossings in Calais last night.
They were saying that one of the main draws of the UK is the ease with which you can slip straight in to the black, no-questions-asked, cash-in-hand economy once you’re here
and to a certain extent Low Traffic Neighbourhoods has been hijacked by the far-right and he called it out.
It's no surprise to me that the people I work with who latched onto the idea that vaccines were worse than Covid are now convinced that 15-minute neighbourhoods are an attempt to control the population.
They were saying that one of the main draws of the UK is the ease with which you can slip straight in to the black, no-questions-asked, cash-in-hand economy once you’re here
Well when the government effectively defund HMRC so they can't combat all their rich mates tax dodging, it is no surprise that a black economy thrives at a lower level. The top of society create the example and the means.
15-minute neighbourhoods are an attempt to control the population.
I really don't get this 15 minute conspiracy thing.
I live in a village with a population of <2000.
I have every facility and service listed within 15 minutes walk.
Am I being controlled?????
Well when the government effectively defund HMRC so they can’t combat all their rich mates tax dodging, it is no surprise that a black economy thrives at a lower level.
I think another reason the black economy thrives is that the UK doesn't really allow asylum applicants to legally work.
This is in part due to the Blair/Blunkett era when the New Labour was quite hostile towards asylum seekers.
"Until mid-2002, asylum seekers could apply for permission to work if they had been waiting six months for an initial decision on their asylum claim. The Labour Government removed that concession, saying it was necessary to distinguish asylum from economic migration."
What are you going to do......sit in some hotel room skint ensuring that you don't break the law, or take up that offer down the carwash so that you have enough pennies to buy a drink later?
It's exactly that ^^.
Create a culture war - it'll give days of newspaper fodder, millions of social media posts, the impression that the Government is Getting Tough On Immigration and it'll distract from the numerous other fails much closer to home like spiralling inflation, cost-of-living and widespread strike action.
Wait until the manufactured culture war meets reality at which point it'll be shot down in flames.
Claim that the woke liberal leftie socialists have ruined your plan to Get Tough On Immigration.
This is just a repeat of the "number plates for cyclists" thing that went around last year when Grant Shapps sort of indicated he might rethink the policy and the papers picked it up and ran with it, there were days of newspaper fill which distracted from loads of other transport stuff like rail strikes.
Pick an outgroup - immigrants, cyclists, benefit scroungers... Manufacture a culture war and pretend you'll Get Tough On Them. Note you never have to deliver on anything - in fact the whole aim is that your policy fails which is always the fault of the liberal handwringing lefties.
What's of more concern is what they're trying to push through unseen in the background while everyone is distracted by this...
What’s of more concern is what they’re trying to push through unseen in the background while everyone is distracted by this…
I don't think they are trying to push anything through whilst people are distracted by this.
I do think it is a distraction though, it's obvious that it's a distraction - it's not designed to provide a sensible solution to a real problem.
But the only distraction the Tories are really concerned about is how deeply unpopular they are.
Rishi Sunak has made 5 pledges concerning inflation, the economy, national debt, the NHS, and small boats.
The first one is probably going to be very easy for him to deliver on as UK inflation is strongly linked energy prices which are currently falling.
The next three pledges are going to be much harder for Sunak to convince voters he has been successful with before the next general election.
The final pledge is also going to be difficult to deliver on but luckily for Sunak he has a cunning plan ..... propose new legislation which is very likely to be declared illegal, and therefore has little chance of making it onto the statute books, and redirect any blame away from him - a perfectly sensible set of proposals defeated by human rights and legal nonsense.
Although I guess his cunning plan could go tits up if his proposals do somehow become law and are shown to be completely unworkable and ineffective.
I guess it's a question of "fingers crossed and hope for the best". And to be fair based on how deeply unpopular the Tories currently are, and the almost certainty that they will lose the next general election, it sounds like a perfectly reasonable strategy to me - a huge dose of luck is probably the best that they can hope for.
Love how Sir Michael Take has been quoted by the likes of the Daily Heil before.
We live in odd times.
If the BBC are asking their sports presenters to stay away from politics then I think the answer is for Gary Lineker to switch chairs with Kirsty Wark.
Somewhat predictably, she was utterly useless again on Newsnight last night, providing as soft a landing as possible for the Tory shill she was interviewing, (or rather giving a platform to).
She is now saying ‘ it wasn’t me, I neither saw, read or signed off the email’
It did have her signature attached but was sent from CCHQ
She doesn’t say that she didn’t agree with the text though.
Mistake?
"Language not dissimilar to that used by Germany in the 30s"
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Full MemberWhat’s of more concern is what they’re trying to push through unseen in the background while everyone is distracted by this…
Ordinarily I'd agree but with this sort of thing, the distraction is often the end itself. And in this case it's essentially a distraction from the government's total failure on immigration and total failure to even try to do anything serious about it, it's pretty much a circular distraction.
Was just thinking what constitutes a 'small' boat legally. Will the dimensions be written into the policy so if for example I used a 'big' boat to bring across some immigrants they would be fine?
It’s bizarre, isn’t it?
There’s no detail because it’s not really a policy. It’s just a headline. A Twitter post. A wish list. Thinking out loud.
It might as well have been made by that racist bloke whose always propping up the bar in the pub, for what it’s worth
You’ve a government with the best part of two years to go before an election, with a large majority which means, in theory, they can do what the hell they like
Doesn’t feel like that, does it?
The only policies they’re proposing are ones that even their own MPs don’t think they stand a cat in hells chance of getting onto the statute books, while simultaneously completely refusing to engage with the actual issues facing the country.., namely the strikes and the cost of living crisis
What on earth is the point of them dragging this out for another 2 years of stasis, doing absolutely nothing bar shouting some culture war bollocks
They’re just completely pointless. We’ve a totally absentee government, devoid of ideas or answers and morally bankrupt
I suppose that’s where blindly following a third rate journalist and narcissist gets you
Did you see Honest Bob on C4 news…? It may all be just signalling, not workable policy… but it’s still pretty unbelievable what’s proposed. If you escape from modern slavery in the UK, and you arrived by boat… you get sent out of the country (example he gave was to Rwanda)… why would anyone come forward to help the authorities catch and stop those that enslaved them in those circumstances?
I just watched ‘Honest Bob’.
No answers to any questions. Not even any attempt to explain the totally nonsensical nature of it all. Just utter gibberish. He didn’t even look like he could be arsed defending it. And why would you?
The Tory party doesn’t even actually exist any more, does it? Certainly not as a meaningful party of government. They’re just a motley assortment of individuals who haven’t the remotest clue what it even is they’re actually meant to be doing
It’s got the feeling of United on Sunday, after Liverpool had scored the seventh. Just hanging on, wishing desperately for the inevitable end, so they can just sidle off in complete disgrace, having comprehensively failed at everything they were supposed to be doing. Whatever that was
Was just thinking what constitutes a ‘small’ boat legally
All I will say is I am getting a bit nervous about my next paddling trip.
I think, to be generous, they have spent so long trying to stoke the hate with the willing help of the right wing media that they have got a bit stuck. "Small boats" is a great slogan to get people excited about but not so much use when it comes to actually addressing the core issues.
It’s got the feeling of United on Sunday, after Liverpool had scored the seventh.
3 word slogan & :talk of controlling our borders, they're using their Brexit tactics again, no matter how divisive and damaging it is
There will be more inflammatory cultre war crap to come, what's next death penalty referendum, axe the licence fee,
Stretching the football analogy, they're making a desperate play to hack, foul and handball their way back I to the game and just hoping the referee will let them off & the VAR stops working
C4 news are reporting that 'a source very close to' Cruella confirmed that she did know about and agreed that text, criticising civil servants directly.
Breaking the ministerial code and pants on fire in the same breath..
Was just thinking what constitutes a ‘small’ boat legally. Will the dimensions be written into the policy so if for example I used a ‘big’ boat to bring across some immigrants they would be fine?
Nah, I think just "by boat" is how the illegally entering the UK will be described as.
It works well with the snappy three word slogan "Stop The Boats" which they have pinched from highly successful racists on the other side of the world:
Edit: Who coincidentally like many in the Tory Cabinet are descended from immigrants. Or are possibly even immigrants.
They just don’t care any more.
Braverman broke the ministerial code with zero consequences, was subsequently sacked and reappointed 6 days later
Boris set fire to the ministerial code, pissed on it then put it out with a cricket bat. They’re utterly and completely, shamelessly corrupt
But you have to ask… where’s it got them?
It’s wreaked havoc on the country, but what have they actually gained from just desperately clinging in to power? There just doesn’t seem any point to any of it. And it looks like they can’t even struggle to convince themselves that their is, never mind the rest of us.
I can’t even be arsed hating them any more. They’ll be forgotten in a heartbeat once we get a government that can start to repair the damage they’ve done
I say I can’t be bothered hating them but I’d happily see Boris Johnson swinging from a lamppost. All this mess can be laid at the door of his ludicrous, planet-sized ego. The rest of them were just useful idiots. Nodding dogs who haven’t even got enough about them to emerge from his shadow
I’d happily see Boris Johnson swinging from a lamppost. All this mess can be laid at the door of his ludicrous, planet-sized ego.
I have seen the UK in a lot worse mess than it currently is in right now - early 80s, early 90s, and of course the 2007–2008 financial crisis.
I have never seen the Tories in such a mess though, ever. Three leaders in quick succession, the current one acting as if he is a state of panic and doing nothing to inspire the confidence of voters, and looming electoral meltdown.
Boris Johnson might well be highly responsible for the mess the Tories find themselves in but I'll let them decide if they want him publicly swinging upsidedown from a metal gantry.
FFS. He's gone full Mosley...
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Also, do the Tories employ the same graphics designers that do all the stuff for The Apprentice teams? It's just awful (in all senses of the word).
It's pretty frightening that we could be heading for some kind of 'showdown' GE where (assuming a labour victory) hard-right supporters try some kind of do-or-die manoeuvre to seize power.
C4 news are reporting that ‘a source very close to’ Cruella confirmed that she did know about and agreed that text, criticising civil servants directly.
Breaking the ministerial code and pants on fire in the same breath..
Imagine having to quit twice....
It’s pretty frightening that we could be heading for some kind of ‘showdown’ GE where (assuming a labour victory) hard-right supporters try some kind of do-or-die manoeuvre to seize power.
They'll never get their mobility scooters up the steps, be like being chasedby geriatric daleks
^^ Going to be a really, really nasty GE. Tory's are going full GOP.
That poster looking up at Sunakered, they must have taken that from below a glass floor or something.😉
They’ll never get their mobility scooters up the steps, be like being chasedby geriatric daleks
Ha! Cheers, needed a chuckle.😁
I don't think that poster in the previous page is any worse than Theresa May's "Go Home Or Face Arrest" campaign which was so appalling and nasty that even Nigel Farage was forced to denounced it!
And Rishi Sunak's attempt at bigot pandering will no doubt end up the same as Theresa May's - quietly dropped and forgotten, especially if the laws it refers to aren't even passed.