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For wanting to challenge and ask for “bean counter” analysis, or for not documenting he had challenged it to protect his arse?
The analysis was done with what was known… let’s not pretend it wasn’t to suit his little narrative about being the only one looking for alternatives to lockdown… everyone was looking for them. What he, after the event, was doing there was playing up to the anti-lockdown sentiment in his own party. That he thought at that time that talk of allowing more of the old to die would help him win over his party members shows just how detached he is from them, never mind the rest of us, and how he could not understand what had happened outside his little protected world during the first waves of the pandemic, or appreciate the loss many were still feeling so keenly.
It seems like he's said "eat out to help out" was safe, but also that he didn't seek any scientific advice on it... But he doesn't seem to really have been challenged on that, how the hell can you even have an opinion on safe or not without that advice? I mean, I know he didn't think it was safe, of course but that's not really the point.
Thing that gets me over and over is these absolute planks who thought you could put the economy above dealing with a pandemic. Like, you know what's really bad for the economy? A pandemic. You know how to look after the economy? Fight the pandemic, don't just surrender to it.
He wasn’t really challenged on anything much at all. Easier ride than previous attendees.
how the hell can you even have an opinion on safe or not without that advice? I mean, I know he didn’t think it was safe, of course but that’s not really the point
Well we now know Rwanda is apparently a safe country because Rishi has signed a treaty saying it is
Maybe he had a similar arrangement with the virus?
How do they get away with the blatant lies regarding Whatsapp messages?
Seems like they may not! https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/john-edwards-cabinet-office-information-commissioner-mps-government-b1085921.html
This could cause a problem for a Tech-Bro trying to go back to America and also for a certain badly stuffed sofa. An unspent criminal conviction will mess ups trips to the States.
The dildo of consequence looms.
That article is dated 6 June so, unless I've missed something, what's new?
If I had to sacrifice my kids to help save others, I suspect my views would be very different.
And if I had to sacrifice your kids my view would be different than yours which is exactly why choices that don't actually need to be made should not be made.
Fruit and nuts with the fruit and nuts for breakfast for Rishi today. Imagine being faced with Mark Francois and Bill Cash first thing in the morning
LOL 😆 The Daily Mail publishing negative (and apparently exclusive) stories about greedy Tory MPs:
https://www.****/news/article-12851673/Tory-MP-charges-taxpayers-6-Pritt-Stick.html
IME when the Daily Mail covers a less than positive story about a Tory MP they usually leave out the bit about them being Tory from the headline, in this case they emphasis it.
Dunno if someone is going to get into trouble or whether the Daily Mail has picked up the mood of the nation and decided to join in.
An unspent criminal conviction will mess ups trips to the States.
Neither of them is ever going to have the slighest difficulty entering the US.
Dunno if someone is going to get into trouble or whether the Daily Mail has picked up the mood of the nation and decided to join in.
Warning shot to some of the tory mps that they need to get behind the heils employee of the month in his come back bid?
IME when the Daily Mail covers a less than positive story about a Tory MP they usually leave out the bit about them being Tory from the headline, in this case they emphasis it.
Probably means they've got some dirt on him.
Today, the story about the Pritt Stick.
Tomorrow, the one with the rent boys and cocaine unless...
And then he'll be forced to jump to the DM tune and do their bidding for a bit.
finite pot of NHS money
As the usual people may post here, that is not really true. What is finite are the resources, human and material, to provide healthcare, which cannot be increased overnight no matter how much money is thrown at the problem. Hence all those Nightingale Hospitals doing very little as there were no extra suitably trained staff to work in them. They would have served as places for people to die with some semblance of care if things had got really bad (ie no lockdown perhaps).
Dunno if someone is going to get into trouble or whether the Daily Mail has picked up the mood of the nation and decided to join in.
Nah, the daily fail believe they are the mood of the nation much like gbeebees think they speak for the "silent majority" 😕
C'mon Rishi, call their bluff and call an election. It's the only thing left to do.
You'd think he'd have had enough by now and going being a tech bro in California would be much more appealing? He's only delaying the inevitable anyway.
Its mad that this absolutely insane policy - shipping a couple of hundred people to Africa - is the hill he's chosen to die on. And the crazy assumption that the headbangers would stop short of anything other than firing all immigrants into the sun?
Absolutely politically clueless!
Did Curella and her stilletto get an invite ?
She was busy on a golf driving range with a 3 wood and a big bag of baby hamsters
Having worked for various Silicon Valley multinationals of various sizes, I feel I have to point out that while “Tech Bro” is a juicy slur, Rishi isn’t one. He’s more like a “Trust Fund ***hole” - arriving with bags of cash to buy opportunities at role-playing in the technology industry.
I shouldn't be suprised but I am actually flabberghasted
And the reason for returning is to vote in this flecking Rwanda nonsense......
GE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It just illustrates what we all already know.
These lot don't give a toss about anyone or anything other than their own ongoing factional psychodrama
Theres also the small matter of an Asylum Seeker taking their own life on the Bibby Stockholm this morning
And what are these lot doing? Pulling their plums out to make life for asylum seekers even worse
They really are subhuman scum. The sooner they're cast out into the political wilderness, the better
I'm just so sick of the blatant lying, direct to the face of the questioner.
There's no way he 'lost' his WhatsApp messages when he changed phones. Everybody has upgraded a phone and knows that's not how it works.
Cleverly did say that town was a shithole and pretending he was talking about the person is obviously untrue - we all know that phrase is about a place not a person.
Let's not even start on Johnson.
I'm not a Tory voter, but I recognise that it's usually a perfectly valid choice. Now though, anyone who votes for this bunch of liars deserves to be shunned by everyone else. There's no excuse for it.
Theres also the small matter of an Asylum Seeker taking their own life on the Bibby Stockholm this morning
Just read this on the Beeb.
This is the real cost of these sh*t heads. This isn't just politics, this is about real people.
Utter scum.
supernova
There’s no way he ‘lost’ his WhatsApp messages when he changed phones. Everybody has upgraded a phone and knows that’s not how it works.
He started a court action against the order to release them, lost that, and now it turns out he didn't have them in the first place.
Today, the story about the Pritt Stick.
So... I was just scrolling back through this thread and assumed that comment was in relation to some revelation about a former home sec, the bundle of kindness and loving that is Ms P Patel.
Ooof! Anyway, wish I hadn't bothered to read that story... (nearly always the case when I follow a Daily Mail link)... a stationery bill... including a glue stick not bought in the cheapest way (last minute grab at a corner shop, train station or service station probably)... meh... we have MPs openly calling for an end to the division of responsibilities between courts and the executive when it comes to people's rights in law... all government MPs abandoning COP when it most needs leadership to not give into the fossil fuel lobby... who gives a fig about an over priced glue stick?
I recently changed phones and did lose all my WhatsApps, so it is possible if you select the option of never backing them up, as I do.
What is impossible to believe, is that he would accidentally lose them that way if in fact he intended to keep them.
I also lose my whatsapps whenever I change phone because it is just conversation to me and I can live without the old messages.
The thing is it is very obvious that this is going to happen and I get many warnings so if I used them for business or government purposes I would have to be totally incompetent to lose them
the other thing with WhatsApp is it's a massive issue in banking - which is Sunak's background!
Everyone knows WhatsApp is perfect for shiftiness and insider trading. Especially if you then 'lose' your messages. Banks get fined millions for letting staff use it. Many large banks ban it altogether, for compliance reasons. Staff have to use in-house messaging systems that log the chats instead.
It's ludicrous that we - parliament, the media, the public - let politicians go on record and say 'sorry, the dog ate my homework', as though that's a reasonable excuse for the leader of the ****ing country. He wouldn't get away with it at Goldman Sachs, it'd be a massive fine and instant dismissal. As PM he can just shrug it off, pretend he was just really thick, and carry on as normal.
So the DUP cannot support the Rwanda bill but haven't confirmed whether they'll vote against or abstain.
Do they see a further opportunity to extract money from the gov to buy off their opposition - following in Arlene's footsteps?
https://twitter.com/BestForBritain/status/1734628377917563024?t=TBX3YiYrAzpGSssfTkaPsw&s=19
Meanwhile, on the Tory backbenches, bigotry, xenophobia and stupidity reign supreme.
I think I can guess which way this cretinous idiot will be voting on the Rwanda bill.... 🙄
Meanwhile, on the Tory backbenches, bigotry, xenophobia and stupidity reign supreme.
He also said:
Immigration has turned Doncaster into a “ghetto”,
Speaking in the Commons, Don Valley MP Nick Fletcher said: “I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Doncaster is full.”
He added: “We are turning parts of our community into a ghetto.”
Doncaster has been a Ghetto for all of my living memory!
I heard on the News Agents podcast that the 'Rwanda Plan' involves sending tops 200 individuals a year. As that's a drop in the ocean in relation to immigration numbers in general.<br /><br />Morality & legality of it aside it seems a very odd and low impact change hill to die on? <br /><br /><br />
I think I can guess which way this cretinous idiot will be voting on the Rwanda bill…. 🙄
Blokes like this are a bit of an inspiration.
Proof you can be a pig-thick ****ing plank and still ascend to high office.
Looks like the thick-as-mince, racist Brexiteers are going all misty-eyed for the days when the electoral maths gave their particular monkey a machine gun
It looks like it’ll be like May and the Northern Ireland protocol all over again, but now Jenrick and Cruella are squabbling over who gets to play the Boris role
it seems a very odd and low impact change hill to die on?
Absolute political cluelessness of epic proportions to expend so much capital (financial and political) on something that is ultimately totally pointless
the ‘Rwanda Plan’ involves sending tops 200 individuals a year.
I heard that in a BBC interview, for once the interviewer was doing their job well. As the interviewer pointed out the Rwanda plan would deport the same number in a year as entered in a weekend. Total maddness.
If there are 57 or more abstentions the bill will fail.
I don't know how many are represented by the 'five families' - sounds like the mafia - and the DUP with 8 MPs have said they cannot support the bill.
This could be very tight.
One way forward for the tory antis to show their opposition without sinking the bill would be to split their opposition between votes against and abstentions.