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It's been said but definitely a Citroen C6
Damn I want a C6 - having just googled it after those posts up there.
[i]The XC90 has long been one of my favourites, but the fuel economy seems pretty rubbish on them, which is a day to day factor.[/i]
You should get one then. People get so hung up on the economy figures but on a car of that age its a minor factor. You can't have a big heavy safe cruiser with all those options and expect 40mpg. Its not bad on a run though...35 is possible.
You sure it's not a Mondeo ?
Yeah.....the grill hasn't been ripped off an Aston.
That does look pretty good for £10k.
Oh.
Not suggesting it to the OP as he has already ruled Skoda's out. Just commenting that it looks pretty good to someone who claimed that the Superb was a munter.
[url= http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/volkswagen/phaeton/volkswagen-phaeton-3-0-tdi-v6-4motion-4dr/5198308?v=b ]And relax.[/url] what a buy, no idea where you are in the country though!
The new Superb looks pretty good to me:
That was me. The one I sat in which was in the dealership looked crap from the outside. That looks better.
The top of the range C5s also have the hyropneumatique suspension. Nothing else I've been in comes close. Pity they've dropped the petrol V6 from the C5/C6.
Issue with the Phaetons used to be finding someone who knew what they were doing with the things when it comes to servicing and repairs.. Not even all the dealerships were equipped is what I heard! Not sure if that has changed?
Still not got around to this yet...
Currently back in debate after a longish and noisy motorway drive yesterday. I'd just like to be able to hear myself think on the motorway.
Current list :
Low Spec Mondeo petrol, cheapish money, had one before
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/322002802661?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Mercedes C180 auto
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/201423530347?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Quashqai, more from a space and the wifes semi-company loan car is one and she approves
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222148474548?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
C180, higher price, low miles, lovely looking motor
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/311656672196?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Newer Mondeo, higher money, but new and decent miles.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191919519007?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
That's all i've got currently in my mind.
Plan B is to take the current Civic to Burgundy in Aug and see how it is, see if we can put up with it.
Plan C is possibly to invest in some new rubber, quieter rubber and take to Burgundy.
Plan D... i dunno.. what is plan D ?
of all those you listed none look particularly appealing for your SOR in the OP imo.
Would have titanium x sport. Yes it's diesel but it's a nice spec;
Saw this car on Auto Trader’s Android App. Thought you might be interested. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201606285353739
Heated/cooled seats, dab radio, torque, mpg, what's not to like?
Whatever you go for, make sure it doesn't have stupid 19" wheels on it. 17" give a nicer quieter ride on the same car IME.
Don't understand the anti skoda snobbery when you are considering a mundano though.
I don't really want a diesel due to potential scare/horror stories. Sure, it MAY not happen, but i feel that a petrol negates that more so.
trail_rat - Memberof all those you listed none look particularly appealing for your SOR in the OP imo.
So then, what does ?
what tires are on the civic ?
Civics ive traveled in have not been noisy ..... equally quashqais are not particualtly quiet cars either.....
C class merks have wind noise issues with the wing mirrors at motorway speeds - parents had one and john clark wouldnt honour the goodwill warrenty merk were offering lots of people with effected cars.
Why not hire a car? You can get exactly what you want, brand new. Will cost a bit but after end of holiday you hand it back and don't have the risk of a dodgy buy and keep your own car that you already have.
trail_rat - Memberwhat tires are on the civic ?
Tehy're likely to be a mis-matched set of whatevers.
In all honesty, i'm not big on tyres so i don't really know. Last pair were a set of part worns from local back-street place...
Checked : Michelin Primacy HP on the fronts.
gavinpearce - MemberWhy not hire a car? You can get exactly what you want, brand new. Will cost a bit but after end of holiday you hand it back and don't have the risk of a dodgy buy and keep your own car that you already have.
To get something worthwhile as an improvement, along with Euro cover and a towbar for the cycles is just way too much money.
It's not like the Civic is a wonderful car that i love, at the most i tolerate it.
"Last pair were a set of part worns from local back-street place..."
- seriously ? why bother ?
trail_rat - Member"Last pair were a set of part worns from local back-street place..."
- seriously ? why bother ?
Sometimes we're flush, sometimes we're not... i guess at that time, £50 for the pair fitted was a lot better than £180 fitted...
with your SOR i would be looking at older beemers , older french luxeo barges , Big volvo s/v70s , Big old saabs.
Lowish miles , big engines .
Forget tax brackets and fuel economy - once you add in fuel economy and low tax you need to be spending alot more money to get a decent motor.
Do be aware that big plush cruisers tend to come with big plush bills when they go wrong though.
importantly id be looking for 4 matching branded near new tyres ..... they play a bigger factor than you believe in the road noise.
Looking at the C5's as recommended, you can get a lot of car with not many miles
nice car how ever i dont consider that to be a particualrly lot of car for not much money.
its still an 8 year old car. even if it has 18000 miles - time hurts cars more than miles and that cars spent alot of time static - or worse doing small trips.
Id expect that to be more 3-4k of a car.
in my younger days ive bought similar cars - 10 years old circa 30-40k miles on the clock. they were pish. These days im not so fussy about milage and will buy based on condition and maintenance records - i have alot less issues with cars.
18000 miles on an 8 yr old diesel sounds like something I'd be leaving well alone.
You'll be wanting a Honda Accord. Seats up there with Volvo, absolutely excellent in a straight line. Bulletproof in petrol flavour, only slightly less so in diesel. They do have dmfs but no dpf if you get ICDTI rather iDTEC.
Weeksy- ygm
After the Saab, I'll be getting another Saab. Then I'll move onto a big petrol Lexus 8)
Ive always looked at Skoda's. I'd drive one but would never ever buy one. Its got a shit name for starters and they aren't 'cheap' to buy. For the money I'd rather buy an Audi.
[url= http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201605194110868 ]petrol tourer for 10k[/url]
[url= http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201606295365606 ]petrol saloon for 10k[/url]
If you do buy an Audi, don't get a s-line or one with big wheels.
I have owned a number of them, the best for touring was a A4 3.0 Tdi on standard suspension and 17" wheels. Almost as smooth as a friends E-class. But they are not big inside.
I now drive a Superb. Hora suggests the Audi is better for the money, However for me the equivalent A4 at the time was £5000 more expensive for the same age and mileage, with the same engine and similar drivetrain ( 2.0 Tdi, 4wheel drive and a manual gearbox)The Audi also depreciates more in real terms if not percentage terms.
However, you have ruled Skoda's out. Buy an old Merc for the real old mans car, the Honda's above would get my vote
Thanks for all the advice so far.
I'm wondering if it's better just to find a low cabin noise type tyre instead, get a set installed for say £250 and try that for a start point... It's a lot less to spend than the £5000 i'll end up spending to upgrade the Civic, the Civic itself works fine, goes OK and has been perfectly reliable.
S-Line spec is not the horrible ride most think.
The wrong tyres fitted to most are.
RFT's are OE with them and they are what cause the problem.
Add that many will
Go and fit different wheels sometimes so it all goes to shit.
Depending on what you want -
Often going to non-rft and a softer sidewall solves the ride and costs a lot less too.
Tyres and wheelsize can make a massive difference
My 2 cents.
Germans make very good motorway cars, imo a function of their domestic market where people drive long distances for leisure and work. Size counts, a bigger car will naturally feel smoother, quiter and more comfortable than a smaller one. My A6 was an absolute joy on the motorway, fast smooth quiet and would run all day long at speed. We bought a quattro as we drove to europe a lot inc in the winter and lived in a fairly hilly area and on a non adopted non gritted/snow cleared road.
As above no low profile tyres / sports suspension cars.
OP your idea about trying different tyres on the Civic is a good one, if the car works 95% of the year for you why change it ?
you civic dosent have runflats by anychance they can be noisy
No mate. Not run flats.
S-Line spec is not the horrible ride most think.
Depends on the age and the model. I had an A3 Sportback s-line in 05. It was the worst riding car I ever owned. The later ones are better I beleive, but when I was buying A4 mentioned above, I tried the s-sline and went for standard spec as It was noticibly more pattery
BMW 520 Saloon or tourer, petrol or diesel. Done , move on.
Get a big lexus. LS430 or 460. Get it on LPG and they are really cheap, and there really is nothing else with the level of luxury - massage seats, air conditioned seats, rear fridge etc etc.
RE lexus - remember the old adege "if you couldnt afford to run it new - you most definitely cant afford to run it used"
FWIW when it comes to luxury comfort motoring nothing really does beat a full fat range rover - you actually feel refreshed when you get out of one of them after a long trip 😀
Thanks for all the wisdom.
In the end i went for the cheaper option of a Mondeo. 2.0 Petrol. It's not a lot of money to put in the pot along with being a nice quiet and hopefully reliable car.
Not quite what you may have expected, but it's what we have coming on Wed.
The sensible choice and more money to spend on motorbikes and petrol 🙂
Well, i'm having what's known as a minor bit of indecision on this... but not entirely sure why.
Car is the 2.0 Edge model, lower spec version of the range, but has only 55,000 on the clocks which is good for the age 08. Has full history etc.
The only downside is that it's a little low budget dealer who has it, offers a 28 day warranty and i do wonder if something were to happen, how well it would go for getting it resolved. However, he's only 20 mins fromm my door and 10 miles or so.
However, by the same account, he's offering me a good PX on the Civic and is £500-1000 less than the equivalent cars loacally, i'd have to drive to the frozen wastelands of the north to get anything else, which then would make returns/warranty also very complex.
The car itself is unmarked, but the forecourt is a gravelly based stoney area which is just off the main road and a truck learning centre and so the car is just looking a bit unkempt. But nothign that i can't sort in an hour with a Karcher and some cleaning products i guess.
So... do i stick with the cheaper option, after all, it's only a Mondeo anyway..
Or throw in an extra grand for a larger dealership with longer warranty (if that's actually worth anything in the real world of course) and a bit more care and attention to detail on the car..
If it's peace of mind you're after then take out your warranty, buying from a dealer they will only charge their commission on selling you the same.
[url= http://www.carshop.co.uk/RAC-extended-warranty ]RAC do some good warranties and come with breakdown cover too.[/url]
Not a bad idea... I guess it depends on whether i think anything for £400 or so is going to go wrong that's on the covered list... it's not impossible.... Hmmm
Have you checked it's MOT history online? Might offer you some peace of mind as to any recent issues it's had.
To be honest, any dealership will try to wriggle out of an issue with an 8yr old car if you had one.
But it's a low mileage, petrol engine mass produced car and so any issues should be cheap to fix.
What @craig says, the dealer just buys the warranty insurance anyway, you can do the same. Enjoy. Should be a good car to take to Burgandy / Alps
I know they aren't so popular now but for that kind of trip an MPV is ace. I'd be looking at something like a VW Tourang or a Ford ?-max (pick which ever size fits your requirements best).
Top bits in the back for passengers are the air line style tables and 12v power sockets.
I had an A3 Sportback s-line in 05
We had the same car but a 2011, utterly awful ride.
Smax is a lot worse on fuel if i recall. Good shout in many other ways, but not quite as 'nice' as a Mondeo.... but i may have a quick peek now...
dooosuk - MemberHave you checked it's MOT history online? Might offer you some peace of mind as to any recent issues it's had.
All passes apart from 2 wiper blades and 2 tyres
BMW 520...
Described to me as a 'sheep in wolf's clothing'. Personally I'd avoid.
In the end i went for the cheaper option of a Mondeo. 2.0 Petrol.
Honestly? Good call, IMHO. 🙂
All passes apart from 2 wiper blades and 2 tyres
That's not bad in 8 years!
Bailed on that one but did buy another Mondeo locally.
It's so so nice and soft to drive! Quiet! Relaxing!
Can't go wrong with s mondy 😀
Well that's what i'm hoping.
The one i ended up with was a little more miles than i'd planned, but has full Ford history right up until March this year. Running approx 10,000 per year usually. It's a little later being an 09 plate, so comes with Bluetooth etc. Condition is lovely, really nice, it drive superbly, so i went for it.
Driving home, it was almost funny just how quiet and smooth it was compared to the Civic. Although the clutch is bloody heavy after a year in an Auto. Driving the back lanes and just floating over the bumps, lovely !
I also took out the extended full warranty as i had some cash left over as i bought it at a reasonable price, we'll see over the year how much the paper is worth that's written on lol. Or not... Hopefully it will just be a complete waste of £300 as nothing goes wrong 🙂
Thanks for all the wisdom guys and just because i didn't go with some of your options, doesn't mean i didn't appreciate the posts.
eClass Estate
If it's only a week hire something big and comfy 5 series or E class.
Inbred456 - MemberIf it's only a week hire something big and comfy 5 series or E class.
A. I've already bought a car
B. It is 12 days and then i'd have to come back and drive the horrid Civic again.