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Posted : 31/05/2016 10:08 am
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Posted : 31/05/2016 7:28 pm
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Posted : 31/05/2016 7:54 pm
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Well, I did get a response to an email late last week. I'll not go into the details but was advised a situation update would be given over the weekend. Nothing received yesterday so I responded to the email last night asking for the update. No response.

Now it may well be that this poor chap has some serious issues to deal with at the moment, but I will try another call tomorrow.

The suggestions to use another 'phone, etc may have their place but why should I actually have to use such tactics - should be no need for this.

The email communication is handy as at least there is a documented record for reference. There are plenty of them too.

£1,250 is a notable sum for me.

If no response to my calls tomorrow then the appropriate letter will be sent by the appropriate postal method.


 
Posted : 31/05/2016 7:54 pm
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To clarify, for those who think I have done nothing for a year, note above where I state there have been regular communications to/from with many along the lines of "I'd like to get the car picked up in X weeks. Is this doable?" "Yes, that should be doable".

Next instalment tomorrow.


 
Posted : 31/05/2016 8:03 pm
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Next instalment tomorrow.
Another £1,250?


 
Posted : 31/05/2016 8:38 pm
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[quote=scotroutes ]Next instalment tomorrow. Another £1,250?

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Posted : 31/05/2016 8:47 pm
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Ho Ho
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Any Facebook users here?

Let's assume that someone uses a Facebook page to publicise their business. Said Facebook page has many comments.

Due to communication issues using other means, someone else asked said Facebook page owner to contact them by commenting on said Facebook page. Would it be normal for said Facebook page owner to delete such a simple question? Interestingly enough after this question on Facebook, there was the email response advising situation update would be provided over the weekend, which has not yet been received.

I know that IT issues may impact ability to respond to and send emails, but if one can update a Facebook page using a 'phone then one might imagine that emails or a simple call back might be feasible using same 'phone?


 
Posted : 31/05/2016 11:01 pm
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Think it's time to stop faffing and go see him.


 
Posted : 31/05/2016 11:07 pm
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Very odd situation.


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 1:24 am
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Think it's time to stop faffing and go see him.

It was that time about 8 months back... it's now REALLY REALLY that time.,


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 6:38 am
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[s]Any Facebook users here?

Let's assume that someone uses a Facebook page to publicise their business. Said Facebook page has many comments.

Due to communication issues using other means, someone else asked said Facebook page owner to contact them by commenting on said Facebook page. Would it be normal for said Facebook page owner to delete such a simple question? Interestingly enough after this question on Facebook, there was the email response advising situation update would be provided over the weekend, which has not yet been received.

I know that IT issues may impact ability to respond to and send emails, but if one can update a Facebook page using a 'phone then one might imagine that emails or a simple call back might be feasible using same 'phone?[/s]

Got a phone?
Call him.
If he is blocking your number use a different phone.
If that doesn't work go and see him.
Or kiss goodbye to the deposit.


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 6:47 am
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I'll put a pound on a charge of £1250 for storing the vehicle for 8 months. 🙁
Hope you get it back.


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 7:59 am
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He's sold it and is hoping to fob you off long enough to source an alternative.


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 8:13 am
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I don't get the hostility towards the OP either, I think some just skim read and think "he paid a deposit for a car a year ago, didn't bother collecting it and now wonders why the dealer might have sold it" but that's clearly not the case here. As he mentions it was for a summer round around car so not something he needed urgently + it sounds like the dealer was happy with the relaxed arrangement (inc. doing some mods) and doesn't seem to have demanded the car be paid for and collected else he'd sell it. So yeah if I were the OP I'd start to get pissy if the dealer stopped responding to comms but hopefully it all works out.


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 8:15 am
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I don't get the hostility towards the OP either,

I wouldn't say hostility just there are 1 or 2 things he can do (phone or drive there) that would resolve it. He doesn't seem to want to do either so not much more to be done.


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 8:17 am
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I personally would be doing the call from a new number, followed by a visit in person to ask for car or monies. Today for call, or at worst Saturday 9am at dealer for visit.


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 8:19 am
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Benz, seriously.

I'd say 80% (if not more) of us on here think you are a bit silly for leaving it all this long to sort it out, I'd also say that same percentage think you should go see the fella and either get your money back (if you can) or drive home in the car (if you can)

Go see the fella.


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 8:20 am
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The suggestions to use another 'phone, etc may have their place but why should I actually have to use such tactics - should be no need for this.

but its [b]your[/b] money?
He has [b]your[/b] money, what incentive does he have to sort this out?
If its too far away to visit why not ask him for a picture of the car (to prove he still has it) then pictures to prove he's done the work you've paid for?

I'll put a pound on a charge of £1250 for storing the vehicle for 8 months.
+1

I sincerely hope you get this resolved and aren't getting fleeced but I think your being naive - you [b]need[/b] to speak to this person not via text/facebook/twitter/email actually [list]talk[/list].


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 8:31 am
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The suggestions to use another 'phone, etc may have their place but why should I actually have to use such tactics - should be no need for this.

You shouldn't have to, I totally agree. But given that nothing else seems to be working and he's clearly avoiding you, it doesn't like you've got much option short of a long round-trip to find out that he's "just popped out."

I get that the relaxed approach may well have worked for both of you. However, based solely on your posts here it sounds to me like he's now taking the piss. What's he trying to hide?


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 8:43 am
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Sorry if it seems were attacking you, were on your side but you appear a lot more trusting than some of us.

I.e. i just googled car storage and using these guys it starts at £15 a week so 15x52=£780.
http://www.lancashirecarstorage.co.uk/vehicles.php

Whats to stop this guy saying he was storing it for you and its £800 plus he ordered the roll cage and you never turned up so he sold it to cover his costs. Without a contract its your word versus his.


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 8:56 am
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I am losing the will to live with this thread, and the OP's stubbornness to pick up the phone and help himself.

JUST CALL HIM FROM A DIFFERENT NUMBER AND ASK HIM WHAT'S GOING ON...please.


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 9:31 am
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have you tried using grindr to contact him yet ? it seems you have tried everything but another phone so far.


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 9:33 am
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may have their place but why should I actually have to use such tactics - should be no need for this.

I think the same goes for bullet proof vests in Baghdad but it's the best thing to have


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 9:34 am
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The OP doesn't own the car, so can't really be charged storage, but the time has come to get down there and see what's going on. Phone, email etc can go on forever.


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 9:49 am
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Can you give us an idea of location, if its Gloucester / Swindon im happy to drive round and see whats for sale etc - im sure others would be happy to go and have a look as well.


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 10:14 am
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It's Goodwood Sports Cars apparently, Berwick.


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 10:33 am
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The suggestions to use another 'phone, etc may have their place but why should I actually have to use such tactics - should be no need for this.

Because most human communication is done face to face, and then if not voice communication is best. If that fails then email/writing is down the bottom of the list.

You have kind of done it all the wrong way round which doesn't help resolve anything or build a relationship between the two parties involved.

Get your mummy or daddy to ring for you if you find it difficult to speak on the phone?

Edit: If it is the Berwick place it does sound like he can be difficult to get hold of. But I would be phoning every day x multiple times.


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 10:39 am
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Get your mummy or daddy to ring for you if you find it difficult to speak on the phone?

Ouch!


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 10:54 am
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Is this really still going on?


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 11:05 am
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Yeah what's the outcome?


 
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I need to know how this ends


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 3:59 pm
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Email: goodwoodmx5@[b]aol.com[/b]

I think that tells us the guy is not the most IT savvy.


 
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Because most human communication is done face to face,
source?
and then if not voice communication is best. If that fails then email/writing is down the bottom of the list.
In this scenario it's far better to get something in writing if possible. Yes he could trick the dealer into answering the phone but the dealer could then easily back track.


 
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Because most human communication is done face to face, and then if not voice communication is best. If that fails then email/writing is down the bottom of the list.

You have kind of done it all the wrong way round which doesn't help resolve anything or build a relationship between the two parties involved.

[b]Get your mummy or daddy to ring for you if you find it difficult to speak on the phone?[/b]

So true!

You'll find out so much more from a conversation face to face, a bit less over the phone, and less still on email or other written comms.

We seem as a society to be losing the ability to interact in real time - whether it's social media, less "real life" time or what I don't know, but it's definitely happening.

As has been said, borrow a phone, call geezer, be friendly "alright mate, it's Benz. Wanted to see if I can come up this weekend and give you the rest of the cash and collect my motor".

He'll either stutter and stumble, in which case you know you've been had and can take steps, or will say "ok mate, it's ready/not ready yet, come by next week".

Job done.

Failing that, send me the bloke's name, number, your name, what motor it is and what was being done on it and I will call him for you. As a freebie I will record it and post the MP3 up here to put everyone out of their misery.

Cheers.


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 4:49 pm
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If you speak to him, in person or by phone, you'll just get lots more excuses, similar to all the previous excuses you've already had.

You need a "letter before action" sent by recorded delivery ASAP or you'll never see that money again.

For the best chance of response, attach a filled-in photocopy of the N1 Court Summons you'll be submitting:
http://justclaim.co.uk/court-forms/N1-claim-form.html

You'll need a date ordered list of events, so get typing.

People invent all sorts of nonsense arguments in response (i've been to court a couple of times), but tend to back down a lot once they are sat in front of a judge and asked to explain things, so don't worry when he claims it's all your fault.


 
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source?

Dr. Albert Mehrabian, author of Silent Messages, conducted several studies on nonverbal communication. He found that 7% of any message is conveyed through words, 38% through certain vocal elements, and 55% through nonverbal elements (facial expressions, gestures, posture, etc).

So 7% of the message gets through by e-mail

45% over a phonecall

And the other 55% is only available by talking face to face.


 
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It's Goodwood Sports Cars apparently, Berwick.

Woah there, before the pitchforks get brought out for a sharpening. I suggested it might be them, not [b]benz[/b], due to location and a couple of clues re: the car price. I posted to say that I bought from him and had no problem whatsoever. He seemed a decent chap when I met him and would be surprised if he's taken to scamming.


 
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Glacier update:

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Posted : 01/06/2016 5:24 pm
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Who the **** drove down the middle of that Glacier?

****ers


 
Posted : 01/06/2016 6:30 pm
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Clarkson.

Or Chris Evans.


 
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