Good video and try. But wrong type of RSD, wrong application for an industrial type roller shutter for the "mega structure!"
As a demonstration of how to get the guides and box into place the video is perfectly valid even if the door is different. That's how our guys do it anyway.
Another WE spent fitting Celetex, pretty much finished it all, just need to add some trim round the Veluxes in plaster board.
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8278235633/ ]2nd fit Celotex complete[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
Put another coat of pink paint on the workshop, plus a liberal dose on one of the cats:
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8279300458/ ]Pink Cat...[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
I've heard that Sudocreme works well to remove paint from cats! 
Lol at the cat
footflaps - MemberDo you have even a tiny bit of doubt in your mind that it might be slightly overkill?
It is a project, rather than a means to an end, plus I already have a wooden shed, so thought I'd try something a bit different....
But.... this 'different' has cost you about 4X the cost of what a perfectly easy and workable option would have cost ?
At the end of the day it's your money...but you could have had £15,000 to spend on a nice car/holiday/whatever and still had a decent enough structure to stick a few MTBs.
Then had to chase him round the house to try and wipe it off - which resulted in pink footprints all over the kitchen!
then we would have had to fore go the best thread of the year.. easily worth the 15k.. good on you footflaps.. cant wait for the hanging baskets.. Babylon look out.
But.... this 'different' has cost you about 4X the cost of what a perfectly easy and workable option would have cost ?
Where's your sense of adventure?
in this case it would be a 6 week Safari in Africa instead and my bikes in a large wooden shed with capeted floor for £2000 🙂
Its not a shed it's art.
zippykona - Member
Its not a shed it's art.
Indeed... it is the price of art... but with the functionality of a shed.
Indeed... it is the price of art... but with the functionality of a shed.
Yeah, but where will your shed and safari be in 2.000 years? This shed will be written about as the shed that saved humanity from floods and ice ages. 😀
but with the functionality of a shed.
It's actually a liveable space, designed to have a mezzanine floor fitted as well, so much more versatile than a shed. Storing bikes isn't the main role (although that did affect the security aspects).
It will be used as a proper workshop (lathe, drills etc) and a also a gym (Turbos, Rowers, some free weights).
Wood stove, electrics, water etc get fitted next year as well as a mezzanine floor.
EDIT: plus I only get 5 weeks holiday a year.....
footflaps - Memberbut with the functionality of a shed.
It's actually a liveable space, designed to have a mezzanine floor fitted as well, so much more versatile than a shed. Storing bikes isn't the main role (although that did affect the security aspects).
It will be used as a proper workshop (lathe, drills etc) and a also a gym (Turbos, Rowers, some free weights).
Wood stove, electrics, water etc get fitted next year as well as a mezzanine floor.
EDIT: plus I only get 5 weeks holiday a year.....
we need a 'like' or a 'rep' button....
Just because i think you're nuts... don't think i think your project is rubbish... it's been an interesting thread...
(about a shed)
It will be used as a proper workshop (lathe, drills etc) and a also a gym (Turbos, Rowers, some free weights).Wood stove, electrics, water etc get fitted next year as well as a mezzanine floor.
You forgot to mention the kitchen! 😀
We need more regular updates on this, it must be one of the best threads of the year, keep up footflaps!
Just caught up on the last few pages of this thread, I absolutely love it. Respect to you Footflaps. For all the naysayers, isn't, "Because I want to/Because I can" justification enough for this kind of project?
Not a lot of progress due to working evening this week on actual (paid) work. Will fit patio door tomorrow to stop rain flooding in:
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8292813074/ ]Bit of rain getting in without the patio door fitted[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8292812588/ ]Fully insulated (bar floor)[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
So when you moving in?
8)
Amazing thread and impressive shed. I would live in that if it were mine (bed on mezzanine level).
Is that 6 Velux?
Six 1m x 1m Velux, so whole room is full of natural light.
Looking good. Doors, tape & joint & paint then start building a bike shed 🙂
May have missed this in the middle of a excellent man cave thread, but what's the point of Fort Knox level shutters on the door if there are big skylights that the scrotes can enter/depart via?
The Veluxes will be secured before any bikes go in.
Phew! But will that require some industrial levels of engineering to fit, I'm looking forward to the next instalment(s)
Fairly simple, unfortunately, I'll triple glaze them with 6mm Polycarbonate sheet (riot shield stuff).
Planning for my cave will begin in the new year, and i'll start building it as soon as i can afford some materials.
More likely to be standard brick/block cavity work without 10 tonnes of steel in the roof, but then it's only going in my back garden to replace the existing brick shed.
Needs to store 5 bikes, have room for rollers/turbo, be weather and cold proof, have electric for music and tools, have storage for all bike kit and clothing and maybe have room for a sofa. Got 8 feet of work surface left over from my recent kitchen build so that'll probably squeeze in somewhere.
Photos will obviously be posted for your amusement 🙂
Rusty footflaps knows a few brickies of varying quality should you be struggling.
8 feet rusty? That's a bit of an over-order no. Or did you have secret plans for it , "yes of course I need all this darling" 😉
Amazing how many posts and coments on this thread.
Didnt think a brickie could generate as much intrest!
Just out of curiosity... If I was to rebuild this-
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Double length garage, Mayr a coupla feet wider, slightly taller, and pref with a double thickness walls so the back half is habitable.. How cheaply could it be done?
Prob talking 5 years in the future at least but would love to do something similar to footflaps. Front half garage, back half like a wee guest flat- sleeping mezzanine, poss a wee shower room...
What does the collective think? I'm pretty handy and my neighbour is a well regarded builder..
How cheaply could it be done?
I think your on the wrong thread to be honest 😉
Polar opposite I know!
How cheaply could it be done?
As a start, get a quote from a local building company and then divide by 2 for DIY.
Sort your weeding out first! 😆
[b]althepal[/b] - (apologies to Footflaps for extending the hijack) - you say "Front half garage, back half like a wee guest flat- sleeping mezzanine, poss a wee shower room..." but that's a huge step up from a garage / bike shed / workshop. As soon as people are going to live in it, even sometimes, building regs become a lot more onerous.
And give your child some driving lessons. Looks like a nasty crash.
was it hit and run? as the bike looks totaled.
You could lose your kids in the grass on that patio 😆
I'm worried (and I admit: curious)... this "wee shower" thing you're talking about, interesting, but is it something you really want to be sharing on the internet?
I'm worried (and I admit: curious)... this "wee shower" thing you're talking about, interesting, but is it something you really want to be sharing on the internet?
He's looking for someone to provide the 'shower', so where better to advertise than STW.....
I'm pretty handy
It shows
8 feet rusty? That's a bit of an over-order no. Or did you have secret plans for it , "yes of course I need all this darling"
Yeah, only needed 2 and a little bit so plenty of the 3rd length left over.
Final photo before xmas, with patio door partially fitted. Need to fit wood plinth above doors to close 3/4 brick gap and provide something solid to screw the top of the frame to. Currently some Celotex is filling the gap to keep the rain out.
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8303851973/ ]Patio doors in place, but not quite fitted.[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
Good old expanding foam. Merry Christmas flaps, all the best for 2013's develoents!
I was trying to work out what was above the doors ... and then spotted Celetox in your posting.
What height are those doors? Course wise I count 26 bricks which is Hobbit like. (No 29ers then)
You doing anything with the verge?
Course wise I count 26 bricks which is Hobbit like.
I count 25 to the top of the frame, 25x3" =75" =6'3", how big are Hobbits nowadays?
Imperial bricks, so doors are 82" high. http://www.wickes.co.uk/invt/155253?w=155253
x 83, they're imperials! 😉
57 seconds too late! Ah well santas finally been so I can hit the hut!
Patio is on the list for spring but need to sort out the neighbours drainage first- washed away the last attempt at sand and cement between the slabs- weeded it a few months ago but as its not exactly been BBQ weather couldn't be bothered doing it again..
Take on board comments about regs- was just thinking it would be a good wee addition to the house.
Shower room/wc there if we use it as a guest room or for use after muddy rides on the bike.
why not get some doors made??
Good old Imperials. Bet your Brickie loved you.
26 for the opening, 25 for the doors. So with metric bricks (they're not) the opening would have been circa 1950mm / doors 1875mm
Just finished a office refurb where the doors are 3m tall externally.
Good old Imperials. Bet your Brickie loved you.
They're a right pain fittings doors / shutters to as you get such a variety of widths, there are no straight edges / flat surfaces, so you need loads of packers to manage all the offsets, then a can of foam to fill in all the remaining gaps!
However, they do look nice and match the house.
No where near as exciting as DrP's Xmas edition, but in between inlaw visits etc, managed half a day to sort out the floor insulation.
There's a tiny amount of damp creeping in one side as there is a load of slab overspill concrete outside which is holding the water against the wall. You can just see the damp in the photo below:
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8317962219/ ]Celotex G4100 on the floor[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
Given that's all the damp I'm getting, even in this wet period, I've decided not to lay another DPC and just use the Celotex foil covering as a Vapour barrier, using expanding foam to get a good seal against the stuff on the walls.
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8319015462/ ]Celotex acting as Vapour barrier[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
For the pillars and the doorways, where there isn't Celotex on the walls, I've used pieces of DPC which will get bonded to the DPC in the brickwork, to keep any damp away from the floor.
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8317959825/ ]DPM covering the doorway[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
Whole thing looks like:
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8317960365/ ]Floor insulation complete[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
Next job is to cut the 18mm Hardwood Ply to sit on top, trim the DPC sections and then add skirting around the edges to hide the foam overspill.
Back from skiing, so a bit more progress, cut to fit and laid the 18mm Ply on top of the Celotex:
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8354644352/ ]18mm Ply Floor[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
Next job is skirting and making work benches....
Looks alot smaller inside than outside and floor pan would have you believe, much narrower.
I'm glad your back, I was starting to get withdrawal symptoms -I think you might have to provide some counselling for when you finish completely!!
Is there going to be some sort of opening ceremony with an invitation to all STW members? 😉
Will be glad to see the end man-cave result
The plot is 4m wide, but each wall is 9cm block + 15cm Celotex + 12.5mm Plaster Board, so the internal width is 3.3m ish.
Smaller than my garage then thats why it looks narrow.....i wish my garage was another metre wider......ill be trying for it when i knock it down and rebuild it 2 story for my master bedroom and en suite 🙂 ( in 10 years time.....ie in my dreams)
Is there going to be some sort of opening ceremony with an invitation to all STW members?
I'll bet that it will be his wedding. After (over)building the shed, there is no way that he can have enough funds to hold it anywhere else! 😀
It does sort of look like a chapel with the vaulted ceiling. Maybe some stained glass for the skylights...
Bagsy taking the photos. Can't believe I'm a wedding photographer and have yet to shoot an STW wedding!
No-one's allowed to ask the groom if he's bricking it.
The OH did suggest holding the reception in the workshop!
It's been a while, but spent a couple of hours sorting out the back door. Tidied up DPC, added a ply-wood step and fitted plaster board round the returns (just bonded to concrete with glue).
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8395087833/ ]Untitled[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8395088705/ ]Untitled[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
Alan the Brickie will be back soon to skim the lot....
If there is a grand opening, I'm in. I only live Ian village a few miles out of town 🙂
Keep it up Footflaps, I don't think anyone has lost interest in this thread...
Okay you got me...
Skim and insulation fixings. What's the plan?
Not a lot of progress recently, it all slows down once you get onto lots of fiddly jobs, plus I knackered my hand this weekend using a core drill for the soffit vents, caught on a rafter and nearly broke my wrist:
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8420099974/ ]Soffit fascia vent[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8423961808/ ]Ouch. Drill caught using holesaw and whipped out my hand at 300rpm![/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
Last weekend I fitted the wooden beam under the lintel so I had something to screw the door frame into:
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8398787665/ ]Wooden beam needed to fit between door and lintel[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
Made a 65mm width beam from a joist and some 18mm ply:
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8398789419/ ]Making up correct width beam[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
I did try and bolt it in place, but my drills couldn't so much as mark the RSJ, so I glued it in the end:
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8399876054/ ]Beam glued to RSJ[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
Other than that, I've been faffing with cutting Ply to make a sort of door alcove thing tied into the RSD and around the Patio doors. Turns out 18mm ply exactly fits into the rear slot on the RSD, so I get a clean fit. There are two slots, one for the RSD to close in and one behind.
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8418999503/ ]Ply box around door[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
Great stuff footflaps. keep it coming.
Do the core drills not have a clutch fitted to stop that? Looks painful 🙁
Do the core drills not have a [s]clutch fitted[/s] [b][i]strong enough operator[/i][/b] to stop that? Looks painful 😥
FTFY
😉
I wasn't using a core drill, just core drill bits with a standard DIY drill. Like most things you learn from your mistakes!
A decent drill with a clutch will be my next purchase....
Alan the Brickie is back today to start skimming the whole thing, so here are some photos before he starts:
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8426708184/ ]Pre-skimming[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8426707858/ ]Back door[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
Power tools are good 🙂
New tools too. This thread is so full of win it may burst!
It's the project that keeps on giving, once it's skimmed I can start fit out - electrics, sinks, plumbing, workbenches, shelves, etc.
I doubt it will ever actually be finished 😉
Power tools, hmmmmm lovely power tools
