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Jeezo! That beam is nearly as substantial as your floor slab!
Jeezo! That beam is nearly as substantial as your floor slab!
It's actually quite small compared with the cross RSJ and the front door lintel thing which is half the length but more than twice as heavy!
This shed is going to be approximately 20 times stronger than my house
[i]This shed is going to be approximately 20 times stronger than my house [/i]
The roof on my old house was held up by a few bits of 100 year old 3x2.
Our current one, being only 80 years old uses slightly more bits of wood but nothign bigger than 3x2.
This shed is going to be approximately 20 times stronger than my house
I like the idea of building things which will last a very long time, hence the concrete block / brick design.
your bikes must be a struggle uphill 😉
Thats a lot of £££ for a man cave
Metal Fabricators back to drill the ridge beam for fitting the wood ridge plate:
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8189648787/ ]Dave marking out the holes for the ridge beam[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8189649885/ ]Magnetic drill[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
The roof on my first house which was well over 100 years old, was cobbled together from old bits of driftwood ( old masts etc )
So going by this, the life expectancy of your man cave could be measured on a geological time scale.
I like your style 😀
eye
wateringly
expensive
!
seriously... what is this gaff costing you? WTF are you going to put in it? i mean, i like my bikes, a lot! but this is beyond the realms of normality...
what about adding another skin of brick work to help properly insulate the place? and what are you going to do about the damp?
Seeing this thread come back made me feel happy 😀
EEEEPPPIICCCC!!!!!
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Alpin, I believe the second skin issue has been discussed on multiple pages and still isn't being used.
At least when global thermo-nuclear war kicks off I know where there'll be a structure still standing that has bikes in it!
Are you having a concrete roof or something?! That steelwork is a bit OTT!
This man cave is starting to resemble the WW2 built reinforced concrete air raid shelter that we had at the end of the garden when I was a kid. If you covered it with earth I think that you will be safe from possible Doodlebug attacks 🙂
Its not a bike shed as he'll have you believe, its a
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100mm Celotex on inside, rendering on outside, walls with meet a U value of 0.18W/m²K.
As for damp, I'll seal the bricks below the DPC using cellar paint and install a second DPM below the floor insulation (also 100mm celotex).
I've also started digging french drains around the border, so water can't stand above the base.
I put the ridge plate on last night, and the Chippies arrived at 8am to put the roof timbers in.
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8193042624/ ]Ridge beam with SW ridge plate fitted[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
Working under my Gazebo as it's raining right now..
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8193044932/ ]Chippie's saw[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
I've seen barns with less substantial supports than your gazebo!
Did a den collapse on you in childhood or something - you seem obsessed with over-engineered solutions 😉
Footflaps - Just out of interest what is the cost of the garage, only asking as I'm looking to do the same.
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That's a tree behind it. Was looking at on my phone & thought it was corner prop for the roof
Oops.
Lol at wwaswas 🙂 didn't think it was that substantial!
That's a tree behind it. Was looking at on my phone & thought it was corner prop for the roof
Surprised you didn't point out the load bearing trellis as well.
Rochey,whatever the cost is you can build the something with the same
performance for a lot less if your designer/engineer doesn't like spending clients money quite so much
^^ ouch.
Jamie - Member
That's a tree behind it. Was looking at on my phone & thought it was corner prop for the roof
Surprised you didn't point out the load bearing trellis as well.
Load bearing tree and trellis 😆
Seriously cool "shed" though, I want one!
That's not OTT steelwork...
This is OTT steelwork
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Rochey,whatever the cost is you can build the something with the same
performance for a lot less if your designer/engineer doesn't like spending clients money quite so much
Yep, you can do it a lot cheaper, but I wanted something substantial. The Engineer first suggest a wood cabin thing, but I wanted brick, steel and slate.
The shell will come in at £15k, but it would be a lot cheaper if it was just out of blocks. E.g. some of the options weren't the cheapest e.g. handmade imperial bricks so the front matches the house and I get planning permission for it, six 1m2 Velux windows in the roof, so the whole thing is bathed in natural light, double glazed french doors, 50mm steel back door, tiled rood using slate.
Currently my lawn is now a joist production line:
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8192214585/ ]Roof joist production line[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8193307620/ ]Ed at work[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8192224011/ ]Finished joists[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
Thanks for such an interesting thread footflaps i'm really going to miss it when its all finished.
One question, Is it on budget?
Lovely saw 8)
Thanks for such an interesting thread footflaps i'm really going to miss it when its all finished. One question, Is it on budget?
It will be slightly over, mainly due to me paying extra to get people to do things at WEs / short notice to try and make up some lost time. I could probably build the exact same thing for 20% less now I know what I'm doing / how to haggle / what prices I can get on materials by haggling. Eg I turned up in a yellow hi-viz jacket today to get a load of metal fixings and managed to get an extra 33% off my 60% discount just by complaining a lot about the cost of doing a job and how much my margins were cut. If I'd known that at the start, I'd have ordered all my materials that way... I'm still coming in at 60% of the quotes I got for the complete job as a fixed price, so am saving £12-15k by managing it all myself / doing a load of donkey work.
Here is my bricies work from this avo
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[i]Its a brickie off![/i]
End of play today:
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[url= http://www.flickr.com/photos/brf/8192572133/ ]Untitled[/url] by [url= http://www.flickr.com/people/brf/ ]brf[/url], on Flickr
For the eagle eyed amongst you, the frame for the Velux isn't finished as it's only single timber cross beams, it's just marked out for size right now.
footflaps, sounds like you've enjoyed being so involved with the build 😀
Was that always plan or just 'cos of the now infamous bricky ?
Whats that large blue thing beyond the joists?
footflaps, sounds like you've enjoyed being so involved with the build
Was that always plan or just 'cos of the now infamous bricky ?
I was always going to PM the whole thing and do as much as possible DIY, but originally I had expected to do more stuff myself, eg joinery, but it sort of dawned on me that it was a bit larger than I'd realised and so many jobs are better suited to 1.5 men or two men, that it made more sense to hire professionals in, plus I'd quite like to get it finished asap, so I can do the fit out.
I know you're building it like a bunker but... question is, will the Velux frames take the armoured glass?50mm steel back door
will the Velux frames take the armoured glass?
Armoured glass, that's for amateurs, I'm having shutters made up from decommissioned explosive reactive tank armour.....
50mm steel back door
I'd love to own the tool that could prise apart and penetrate your back doors prior to bashing them in good and proper.
😉
qwerty, I'd imagine a few pints should achieve that
Ooo er qwerty!
Footflaps sounds like you need to watch your er "back door".
50 mm back door will be a lock formed steel hinge door with two 1.2 mm (18swg) zintec sheet type door with a rebated 3 sided frame, circa $100 from ping pong land. Great door for this application with three point locking in a primer finish. Expect to pay £300 fitted. 900 x 2100 mm standard size. You can get in em with a crow bar if you know what your doing. Easier to drop through the velox though. 😆 ( may have a U value of 1.43 W/m2K)