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Forget Seattle & Detroit.
Liverpool had it's moments, As did Los Angeles.
Sheffield or London? Please.....

Greatest musical city of all time?

It's beautiful, sunny Manchester, all the way.... 😀

Barely scratched the surface......

Any more contenders for greatest musical city?
Thought not. 🙂


 
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London? Please.....

Are you serious? Really???

You're having a laugh really, aren't you?

You don't want me to start with you, do you?

Because you know that I will toy with you, then destroy you....


 
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Musical parochialism misses the point, IMO.

Everyone's really crazy about musical heritage here in Beatles-land. We even have an over priced museum and a children's play area called the Yellow Submarine to prove it.

But so what?

Alice in Chains - my pick for best band ever - came from Seattle.

Quality over quantity in my book.

(I do like the Smiths, though).


 
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Don't fight a battle if you don't gain anything by winning.
~ ~ ~ George S. Patton, Jr.

London?
Pretty boys in flouncy shirts?
Sham 69?

ppppfffffffffffft.

But so what?

Very good point, makes sod all difference really.
But Manchester IS the greatest musical city on Earth.
Just saying like.


 
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Come on then Fred. Lets be havin' ya?

Anyway... yoooz iz a closet scouser laaaaaaaaa 😉


 
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Don't start Binners, or I will grind you into the dirt like the scum you truly are...

No don't. I'm warning you.

Now be sensible and stop this nonsense.


 
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Elf, don't talk such a load of

there's a good lad.


 
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love will tear us apart and control in there too 🙂


 
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But of course M6TTF.
Think of this merely as an opening skirmish.

We can bring the big guns out later, when Elf has exhausted his supply of Jess Conrad and Lady Sovereign.

Anyway, off to work, laters!


 
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all well and good but it's hardly a legacy to the world is it ? just a bunch of navel gazers that the rest of the world scratches their heads at.

we on the other hand, gave the world a whole genre that still lives today.....

that's


 
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Musical parochialism misses the point, IMO.

Not for the type of Mancunian who will miss no opportuinity to insist that his (it's usually a he) city is the greatest in the world and was the first to do everything.

I wouldn't want to provoke that type of Mancunian by asking why most of their musical heroes moved to London when they got a whiff of success.


 
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Right. You asked for it. Prepare yourselves for the onslaught.

You do know that this is going to be really, really painful for you, don't you?

Ah. I am so going to enjoy this....

Just a brief opening salvo. Don't think I've stopped though, oh no. Much much more to come. By this evening, you will be begging for mercy...


 
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London


 
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If you're not a mancunian or a hackett wearing oasis fan then no, Manchester is bollox for music. Liverpool is certainly better but not much. This scouser prefers music that comes outta Bristol by a long shot.

Tricky, Massive Attack, Portishead, Roni Size etc. Nuff said.


 
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Just got back from a buisiness trip to Manchester, my first visit. From what I saw it's just a sort of overblown northern Croydon as opposed to some kind of edgy, trend-setting 2nd city


 
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opposed to some kind of edgy, trend-setting 2nd city

that's because it's not the second city


 
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How many of the LSO are from London, Fred? HOw many of them songs you posted were written by members of the LSO? In fact, how many "london" bands are actually from other parts of the country...

Covers bands don't count, anyway, so that's LSO out.

(although not many people realise "step on" is a cover)


 
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Who's winning?

Who's judging?

I'm freakin' pumped up now...


 
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Especially for Fred. The most scouse song in the world


 
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Oooooooooh more london stuff


 
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I'm a complete and utter Southerner, but even I would agree that Manchester beats London for music and culture.

The only innovative sound that sprung from London that I can think of is Two Tone.


 
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The only innovative sound that sprung from London that I can think of is Two Tone.

would that be the london suburb of coventry ?


 
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Erm.... Fred..... Led Zep are about as cock-er-ney as Haggis. Which London Borough does West Brom come under? 😉


 
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@trailmonkey

You're absolutely right. D'oh.


 
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How many of the LSO are from London, Fred? HOw many of them songs you posted were written by members of the LSO? In fact, how many "london" bands are actually from other parts of the country...

Oh, so every single member of the bands posted by the Mancs on here are from Manchester then are they? Hmm? And did all those bands become successful/exposure by staying and performing just in Manchester, did they? hmm?

Thought not. LSO = London band. Simple as. Clue's in the name.

Erm.... Fred..... Led Zep are about as cock-er-ney as Haggis. Which London Borough does West Brom come under?

This is about where the bands were formed/originated. Where they appeared on the music scene, where they recorded, all that. Most of the members of the bands mentioned so far aren't even originally from Manchester itself, but from all the satellite towns like Oldham and all those other places. Are we talking about the scene, or the actual places of birth of the artists?

I see the Mancs are wounded. Nick Berry, Binners? Ha ha! You sillly boy!

(Is enjoying inflicting pain upon the Great Unwashed hordes of the Uncultured North....)

I din't start this. But I am going to finish it.


 
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Led Zep are about as cock-er-ney as Haggis

yup, plant's from the black country.

the midlands invented heavy metal so you might as well just give it up now.

so far fred's dished up a triumph of quantity over quality 😆


 
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I'm from half way between Manc and Liverpool and while not specifically a fan of any one band/group/person I find myself finding "local" music far preferable to music from other places like that there london. I guess it comes from growing up in similar areas with similar backgrounds etc. I'd have to say Manchester wins on musical production but I can't stand the city - horrible place.


 
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Gertcha! 😉


 
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[i]I find myself finding "local" music far preferable to music from other places like that there london[/i]

London is "local" for quite a large number of people 😉


 
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ahem,

for services to heavy crunchy loud things may I present the cess pit that is choke on stench

SLash- lived in Fenton

Lemmy- lived in burslem

Discharge- influenced so many thrash and punk bands including the likes of metallica

oh and robbie williams Sorry about that, i'll get my coat 😳


 
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Manchester also gave us Mick Hucknal a crime that can never be forgiven

The Jam from London??????? someone needs to brush up on their geography.


 
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The Jam?

That's stretching London a bit isn't it?
Weren't they from Dorking or some other commuter town hell hole?


 
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Manchester, London, . . . . Don't be daft, . . . all bow down to Tiny little Stourbridge!!!

Stuffies

Frets (used to work with these chaps)

happy days


 
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If Freds allowed the LSO, then I'm having Collyhursts finest son:

😆


 
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Manchester can have The Jam if it wants anyway, they were cack.


 
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[i]The Jam from London???????[/i]

Woking's close 😉


 
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The Jam = Woking 😀


 
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Pretty much every decent punk band of the 70's was from London tbh....


 
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Pretty much every decent punk band of the 70's was from London tbh....

like this lot for example...


 
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As a Yorkshireman it pains me beyond comprehension to admire anything out of Manchester but you just can't fight the music argument


 
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And now, a brief interlude to show a few little music venues in that London. Mancs please feel free to post up yer own equivalents.

Oh, and have any of you ever bin down to London to gigs? Yes you have, jolly well have not you?

How many Londoners would bother trekking all the way up there, when we're spoilt for choice down here?

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Just a couple of ours...


 
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Binners,That's one band.....That's why I said pretty much every decent punk band,not every one....durr 🙄


 
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but elfin, all the buildings in your pictures are empty, is that because everyone has gone to manchester to listen to decent music?


 
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Punk?

😀

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You're right Fred. I'll be down for this one. I'll get us both tickets now

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Uh? Do what Binners?


 
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Punk only existed so that the tourist tat shops in Camden can sell post cards with pictures of blokes with mohicans anyway 😉


 
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Oh Binners you're such a...


 
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ahem...

Currently, the MEN arena is the the largest indoor arena in Europe and the United Kingdom with a capacity of 21,000, ahead of the 20,000 O2 Arena in London.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Evening_News_Arena


 
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joy division were formed in salford 😕


 
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...and Wembley stadium is the largest outdoor venue in Britain.

Ahem. 8)

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You know you really have lost this one, don't you? You know victory is already mine?

I shall accept your surrender with good grace.


 
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Wembley stadium is the largest outdoor venue in Britain.

What, bigger than Donington, or Glastonbury? *That* Wembley stadium doesn;t even exist anymore, they knocked it down and built a smaller one didn;t they?


 
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Wembley stadium is the largest outdoor venue in Britain.

they're inside a building just 'cos you can't afford a roof you can't suddenly claim it's outdoors 😆

this is an outdoor venue

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all elfin's pics prove is that london is the over priviledged metropole that gets everything but produces little.

it just holds a light up to how great the rest of us are without having the wealth of the empire thrown at us.

That* Wembley stadium doesn;t even exist anymore, they knocked it down and built a smaller one didn;t they?

yeah in london ???? the city in england with the least amount of football heritage.


 
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[i]You know you really have lost this one, don't you? You know victory is already mine?[/i]

can't see it my lovely, unless you've got something up your sleeve, it's about even, soz


 
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tazzy - did you have to have a blue or purple tent to go to that festival?


 
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apparently so, glastonbury is so "nice" these days they'll have all been bought in Waitrose or that horrods place down sowf.

Back in my day it was all mud n crusties 😀


 
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Your all being very provincial, [u]Britain[/u] leads the [u]World[/u] in making good music
We're only a little island and look what's come out, good job all round I'd say.


 
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Behave Khani, this is true North South Divide stuff, no need to get all multicultural on us.


 
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If TJ has the Edinburgh defence can Elf have the New Cross defence for when he has bitten off more than he can chew but will keep flogging it untill he gets himself banned 🙂


 
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As a Yorkshireman it pains me beyond comprehension to admire anything out of Manchester but you just can't fight the music argument

Do not despair, . . the greatest band in the world "The Wedding Present" were formed in Leeds, . . although lead David Lewis Gedge was brought up in Manchester and supports MUFC, so you can't have everything! 😀


 
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Ok then, as you were....


 
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As a Yorkshireman it pains me beyond comprehension to admire anything out of Manchester but you just can't fight the music argument
Do not despair, . . the greatest band in the world "The Wedding Present" were formed in Leeds, . . although lead David Lewis Gedge was brought up in Manchester and supports MUFC, so you can't have everything!

Leeds has the Sisters of Mercy, Soft Cell and the Kaiser Chiefs in its favour, too.


 
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London is "local" for quite a large number of people

Yeah, but people with no soul, with dead eyes and frantic rushing anonymity... 😆


 
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I don't know why I'm even defending the place, I don't live there and never have. 😉


 
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In the spirit of the North/South divide, and as a reciprocal nod to the Yorkshire lot, they did give us

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Two of the finest examples of genius lyric writing ever recorded

Yes! Even better IMHO than Chas 'n' Dave's Snooker Loopy 😯


 
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can't see it my lovely, unless you've got something up your sleeve, it's about even, soz

TBH I've not even really got going yet love. 😉 Plenty more ammo. The Mancs seem to have run out though...

What, bigger than Donington, or Glastonbury?

Which aren't permanent... 😉 Outdoor music/cultural event? Notting Hill Carnival = second biggest street carnival in the [i]entire World[/i]. 8)

all elfin's pics prove is that london is the over priviledged metropole that gets everything but produces little.

Blah blah blah. Have you ever bin to London mate (Of course you have, because you know how fantastic it is)? Do you know it as well as I do? No, so please, just be quiet.

So, where's the pics of all these fantastic Mancunian music venues then?

Here's one:

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Oh, sorry. I din't mean to be nasty. I do apologise. 🙁

Your all being very provincial, Britain leads the World in making good music
We're only a little island and look what's come out, good job all round I'd say.

No, you're right, Khani. Let's all try to get along, and have a...


 
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[i]the greatest band in the world "The Wedding Present" were formed in Leeds[/i]

Ha! Wedding Present aren't even the best band to come out of Leeds!


 
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A bit below the belt that Fred. It upsets me. I saw some of the best gigs of my life there. From behind the bar (best seats in the house) 🙁


 
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A bit below the belt that Fred

he's only short, it's as high as he can reach 😉


 
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Your all being very provincial, Britain leads the World in making good music
We're only a little island and look what's come out, good job all round I'd say.

Nothing and no-one ever progressed by happily slapping itself on the back and telling it how good it was.


 
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Technically speaking Camden shouldn't be in London.


 
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One misses the hacienda. I had some of the best fun of my life there mmm gay night in the very early 90's [ Flesh anyone???] I once went in drag [ long story but I won the bet ] and once with my Mum.
Honestly a gay rave with my mum.....and some people think I misspent my youth


 
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